Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds - Page 4

Tartaruhga Muhtante · 12-31-2016, 08:10 AM

If this news is true, it just shows what happens when a society closes within racial and patriarchal patterns. Vi algunms videos of people who live there that in Japan the couples are very close during the courtship, but that changes after marriage and even more so when the first the first son after that couples come to sleep in beds and even in separate rooms and do not even have sex, and that promiscuity is very common over there , which is not surprising. The couple just back to approach after the kids are great. Another problem is that women do not enjoy prestige. The Japanese are patriarchal (despite their powerful heroines with animés) and that's not a secret.

Tartaruhga Muhtante · 12-31-2016, 08:14 AM

Sooner or later, it's only a matter of time, Japan will have to come out of their comfort zones and start opening for both the foreign customs entry (and averse to their ancient traditions) as to the basic rights of women. Is that or the nation will go into financial and demographic collapse.

Tartaruhga Muhtante · 12-31-2016, 08:28 AM

On the issue of children versus this is a financial situation very typical here in Brazil. I live with my wife for almost 10 years and have no children (only a couple of dogs and two females rabbits, that's cause enough concern for its maintenance). In Brazil, it's been a long time, there is no positive expectations about the future. Unless you are born into a family with financial condition very well established you will hardly be able to study what they would like to study. Will have to keep jumping from one job to the other due to low school knowledge, or you're going to have to impose many and heavy restrictions to attend something you give financial return in short period of time. This worsens even more when you have kids. My wife and I, from time to time, are questioned about "why not having children" or "why don't you want to have children". This sucks, I must say, there is a very strong social Convention that the couple is obliged to follow the commandment "be fruitful and multiply". If you do not follow this commandment is because there is something wrong or you're seen as a selfish to only think about yourself. My wife and I have had several dreams of being able to travel, see other parts of the world, study what we have ease, among others. Unfortunately, a son "completely disrupts this watch" so we take every precaution to prevent a pregnancy. If that's selfish, or individualism, well ... we can live with that.

Tartaruhga Muhtante · 12-31-2016, 08:40 AM

And that's not something pertinent only to Brazil, believe that anywhere in the world the concern of having kids when you don't have stable financial situation is something troubling. People stop having kids so it ends up being quite natural. Since I left my parents ' House and started working I've had varied jobs, from call centers to automotive factories, today I'm a civil servant, and my wife is a seller. Have job stability, but my gain is still very low. I don't mean to be a civil servant forever because administrative work is not something that makes me happy, but "it has to today". Not that I wanted to have children, but it is not a priority for us. Come people "collect" as follows "but don't you think it is already passing of time to have children?" I heard that a fellow unemployed, which was doing security course (or guard, watch, I don't know how you call it) along with me (I was unemployed at the time). I answered somewhat gruff, but at that moment I couldn't help but express some righteous indignation, and said "before another ass to **** I need to have means to clean my ass". And he ended up having to agree with me.

*Prowler* · 12-31-2016, 09:21 AM

...how many drinks did you have before making those posts? Serious question.

wvfan · 12-31-2016, 09:20 PM

Wow

Thats hard to believe. When the have vending machines that sell used womens panties and the have brothels where you order women off a menu like food.

Not to mention the pop culture seems geared to sex with magna and other adult themed cartoons statues and action figures.

*ssjup81* · 12-31-2016, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wvfan

Wow

Thats hard to believe. When the have vending machines that sell used womens panties and the have brothels where you order women off a menu like food.

Not to mention the pop culture seems geared to sex with magna and other adult themed cartoons statues and action figures.

I've never seen a used panties machine. I'm going to assume it's not as common as people make them out to be.

Brothels aren't really legal, but they do have host/hostess clubs. You're pretty much paying for their company. They'll serve you drinks, listen to you, etc. It's also pretty expensive.

Tartaruhga Muhtante · 01-01-2017, 06:20 AM

Disregarding the pathological aspects of sexuality in Japan, they have more than reason to worry about the fall of the human contingent. With the traditional isolationism they cultivate their nation runs the risk of inevitable collapse, not to mention the issues involving China and North Korea, the tsunamis and the traditional Godzilla attacks, ho, ho.

P.S: Sorry for my bad English. I imagine that should cause confusion the way I write.

*Prowler* · 01-01-2017, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wvfan

Wow

Thats hard to believe. When the have vending machines that sell used womens panties and the have brothels where you order women off a menu like food.

Not to mention the pop culture seems geared to sex with magna and other adult themed cartoons statues and action figures.

That seems ot be ab it of a myth. The used panties thing, I mean.

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

I've never seen a used panties machine. I'm going to assume it's not as common as people make them out to be.

Brothels aren't really legal, but they do have host/hostess clubs. You're pretty much paying for their company. They'll serve you drinks, listen to you, etc. It's also pretty expensive.

They probably exploit a loophole in the law by stating they only get paid to drink and chat with customers and that sex with them wasn't included in the fee but because they happened to get attracted to each other under the affect of the booze or something, I'm guessing.

*ssjup81* · 01-01-2017, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

They probably exploit a loophole in the law by stating they only get paid to drink and chat with customers and that sex with them wasn't included in the fee but because they happened to get attracted to each other under the affect of the booze or something, I'm guessing.

Kinda doubt it...that's what "Soaplands" is for.

...but I guess it's not improbable.

Anyway, these clubs are like expensive restaurants. The guys who go to hostess bars/clubs are usually there to have someone listen to them, pour drinks for them, maybe sing for them, light their cigarettes, tell them what they want to hear, etc. There's also the "no touching" policy. The guys aren't allowed to touch the women in any way and I heard they were strict about that. Now that I think about it, it sounds like an expensive maid cafe, just with "modern" geisha (drink pouring, cigarette lighting).

Not sure if host clubs have the same rules.

I think the ones that don't follow the rules mentioned are probably in sleazier areas, like Roppongi.

*Prowler* · 01-01-2017, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

Kinda doubt it...that's what "Soaplands" is for.

...but I guess it's not improbable.

Anyway, these clubs are like expensive restaurants. The guys who go to hostess bars/clubs are usually there to have someone listen to them, pour drinks for them, maybe sing for them, light their cigarettes, tell them what they want to hear, etc. There's also the "no touching" policy. The guys aren't allowed to touch the women in any way and I heard they were strict about that. Now that I think about it, it sounds like an expensive maid cafe, just with "modern" geisha (drink pouring, cigarette lighting).

Not sure if host clubs have the same rules.

I think the ones that don't follow the rules mentioned are probably in sleazier areas, like Roppongi.

I don't see the point to fork large sums of cash just to have a woman to talk to you, sing to you and pour your drink. You'd have to be a real "forever alone" at age of 50 or so to pay for that. I mean, at least escorts/prostitutes give you sex, but just paying to socialise?!

*plastroncafe* · 01-01-2017, 12:55 PM

The point is intimacy, and the importance of it.
Host clubs are providing the service of an often overlooked level of intimacy.

*ssjup81* · 01-01-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

I don't see the point to fork large sums of cash just to have a woman to talk to you, sing to you and pour your drink. You'd have to be a real "forever alone" at age of 50 or so to pay for that. I mean, at least escorts/prostitutes give you sex, but just paying to socialise?!

Yeah, it's to socialize. A pretty woman to talk to. Of course there are places that find loopholes (Soapland establishments or places in sleazier areas or a red light district), but generally it's a place for guys to feel worshipped, I feel. Let's say they have a very stressful life...maybe businessmen will go there to unwind. Oh and by singing, I meant karaoke, as it's a very popular pastime here. Maybe he'll sing along. Who knows.

I think the main expense is the alcohol because it's high grade and it probably adds up.

Being a hostess is still a dangerous job, though. The guys could get too drunk and rowdy or whatever.

Edit: I find this pretty bothersome...

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

The point is intimacy, and the importance of it.
Host clubs are providing the service of an often overlooked level of intimacy.

Yeah, I think it's pretty much this.

That reminds me of that Boondocks ep from god-awful season 4. Robert became pretty much a giggalo and was hoping to get laid, but what the women wanted was companionship and someone to talk to, not anything physical.

*Prowler* · 01-01-2017, 02:27 PM

So soon anime waifu holograms will be a reality for most Japanese men? Fascinating.

12-31-2016, 08:10 AM	#61
Tartaruhga Muhtante Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: BRASIL Posts: 213	?? If this news is true, it just shows what happens when a society closes within racial and patriarchal patterns. Vi algunms videos of people who live there that in Japan the couples are very close during the courtship, but that changes after marriage and even more so when the first the first son after that couples come to sleep in beds and even in separate rooms and do not even have sex, and that promiscuity is very common over there , which is not surprising. The couple just back to approach after the kids are great. Another problem is that women do not enjoy prestige. The Japanese are patriarchal (despite their powerful heroines with animés) and that's not a secret.

12-31-2016, 08:14 AM	#62
Tartaruhga Muhtante Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: BRASIL Posts: 213	... Sooner or later, it's only a matter of time, Japan will have to come out of their comfort zones and start opening for both the foreign customs entry (and averse to their ancient traditions) as to the basic rights of women. Is that or the nation will go into financial and demographic collapse.

12-31-2016, 08:28 AM	#63
Tartaruhga Muhtante Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: BRASIL Posts: 213	... On the issue of children versus this is a financial situation very typical here in Brazil. I live with my wife for almost 10 years and have no children (only a couple of dogs and two females rabbits, that's cause enough concern for its maintenance). In Brazil, it's been a long time, there is no positive expectations about the future. Unless you are born into a family with financial condition very well established you will hardly be able to study what they would like to study. Will have to keep jumping from one job to the other due to low school knowledge, or you're going to have to impose many and heavy restrictions to attend something you give financial return in short period of time. This worsens even more when you have kids. My wife and I, from time to time, are questioned about "why not having children" or "why don't you want to have children". This sucks, I must say, there is a very strong social Convention that the couple is obliged to follow the commandment "be fruitful and multiply". If you do not follow this commandment is because there is something wrong or you're seen as a selfish to only think about yourself. My wife and I have had several dreams of being able to travel, see other parts of the world, study what we have ease, among others. Unfortunately, a son "completely disrupts this watch" so we take every precaution to prevent a pregnancy. If that's selfish, or individualism, well ... we can live with that.

12-31-2016, 08:40 AM	#64
Tartaruhga Muhtante Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: BRASIL Posts: 213	Sorry for the flood.... And that's not something pertinent only to Brazil, believe that anywhere in the world the concern of having kids when you don't have stable financial situation is something troubling. People stop having kids so it ends up being quite natural. Since I left my parents ' House and started working I've had varied jobs, from call centers to automotive factories, today I'm a civil servant, and my wife is a seller. Have job stability, but my gain is still very low. I don't mean to be a civil servant forever because administrative work is not something that makes me happy, but "it has to today". Not that I wanted to have children, but it is not a priority for us. Come people "collect" as follows "but don't you think it is already passing of time to have children?" I heard that a fellow unemployed, which was doing security course (or guard, watch, I don't know how you call it) along with me (I was unemployed at the time). I answered somewhat gruff, but at that moment I couldn't help but express some righteous indignation, and said "before another ass to **** I need to have means to clean my ass". And he ended up having to agree with me.

01-01-2017, 06:20 AM	#68
Tartaruhga Muhtante Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: BRASIL Posts: 213	Disregarding Disregarding the pathological aspects of sexuality in Japan, they have more than reason to worry about the fall of the human contingent. With the traditional isolationism they cultivate their nation runs the risk of inevitable collapse, not to mention the issues involving China and North Korea, the tsunamis and the traditional Godzilla attacks, ho, ho. P.S: Sorry for my bad English. I imagine that should cause confusion the way I write.

12-31-2016, 09:20 PM	#66
wvfan Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: WV Posts: 34	Wow Thats hard to believe. When the have vending machines that sell used womens panties and the have brothels where you order women off a menu like food. Not to mention the pop culture seems geared to sex with magna and other adult themed cartoons statues and action figures.