The Flash tv series on CW

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Barry Allen is 100% Savitar. I've been thinking about the parallels between Arrow and Flash, and it seems far too deliberate to be coincidence... I think the correlations are the final proof that, yes, future Barry is Savitar.

See my notes!

Season 1: A father figure turns out to be a nemesis, and is only stopped through the sacrifice of a friend

Malcolm Merlyn / Eobard Thawne
Tommy Merlyn / Ronnie Raymond

Season 2: A fellow warrior who starts off as an ally but becomes an enemy betrays the team and murders the hero's surviving parent.

Slade Wilson / Hunter Zolomon
Moira Queen / Henry Allen

Season 3: An enemy cult goes to war against the hero. To defeat the cult's leader, the hero becomes a dark version of himself but loses his friends' trust. Also, one of the hero's closest friends undergoes a journey to become a hero in their own right even though the hero doesn't want them to do it at first.

League of Assassins / Savitar's cult
Oliver Queen becoming R'as al Ghul / the Flash becoming Savitar
Laurel Lance / Wally West

Season 4: The new nemesis is a departure from previous nemeses' style

Damian Dark and magic / TBD

It is possible... New 52 Flash I think had future Barry run back into time and kill his enemies and then he tried to off that version of himself... for basically not saving those he loved... in this case I think it was a non-powered version of the New 52 Wally West.... the punk.

[mrmaczaps]

So after tonights episode...

Wait, how do you do the hidden/spoiler thing? Crap... oops.

[Cure]

[ spoiler ][ / spoiler ] with no spaces.

There's a spoiler button when you click to post something. Big white S in a black box next to the Youtube button.

[mrmaczaps]

Most of the episode ks kind of filler...

Once Barry goes back to the past (no surprise there), that future won't happen exactly right to be that same future...

Then there is a thing at the end with two characters... one is confused yet fully trusting of the other... and just how many characters have earned the 1st ones complete trust? Can't be too many... if the 2nd character is who the soeculation is though, how because character one hasn't been that trusting, sjnce that person is where they currently are....

I do like the idea of the New52 storyline rubbing off on the show and that makes the most sense, but would they show runners make it that obvious?

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Cure

[ spoiler ][ / spoiler ] with no spaces.

There's a spoiler button when you click to post something. Big white S in a black box next to the Youtube button.

Thanks. Been a while. Hopefully what i wrote oht makes sense enough for those that watched the episode.. lol

[Autbot_Benz]

man Savitiar's speed armor is awesome.

[oldmanwinters]

I really liked last night's episode. This show does well when it gives the audience a genuine self-contained story while building toward a larger climax. It was so inspiring watching young Barry get the team back together and older Barry don the iconic Flash suit. Cisco's IDing of 2017 Barry by his white logo is a justification for the slight changes to the Flash suit we see each season. It really comes in helpful when figuring out which version of Flash is visiting your timeline!

The only thing stupid was the emo, hermit version of Barry. I'm with young Barry in finding that whole scenario very hard to believe, unless he genuinely felt like there weren't enough bad guys worth his time rounding up.

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

man Savitiar's speed armor is awesome.

Cooler than Ultron, no doubt! And that scene where you finally opened it up made me think for a second he was going to transform into vehicle mode or something.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I really liked last night's episode. This show does well when it gives the audience a genuine self-contained story while building toward a larger climax. It was so inspiring watching young Barry get the team back together and older Barry don the iconic Flash suit. Cisco's IDing of 2017 Barry by his white logo is a justification for the slight changes to the Flash suit we see each season. It really comes in helpful when figuring out which version of Flash is visiting your timeline!

The only thing stupid was the emo, hermit version of Barry. I'm with young Barry in finding that whole scenario very hard to believe, unless he genuinely felt like there weren't enough bad guys worth his time rounding up.



Cooler than Ultron, no doubt! And that scene where you finally opened it up made me think for a second he was going to transform into vehicle mode or something.

Yeah, I agree that emo barry was bad... just seems way off character for Barry...


Also, this story has me thinking Iris could die like way back when Reverse Flash kills her but her "real parents" pull her spirit into the future in a clone/new body.... that would be really fun if they do that... can't wait to see who Savitar really is.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Also, this story has me thinking Iris could die like way back when Reverse Flash kills her but her "real parents" pull her spirit into the future in a clone/new body.... that would be really fun if they do that...

As cool as that would be to see that storyline adapted, I doubt it will occur.

To echo what others have said, great episode all around. 2024 Flash costume was great, I hope it becomes the regular outfit by next season.

[TurtleTitan97]

A fan favorite character is returning in episode 22:

Spoiler:

THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS; WENTWORTH MILLER RETURNS AS CAPTAIN COLD – With only 24 hours left until Savitar murders Iris (Candice Patton), Barry (Grant Gustin) struggles to save the woman he loves and makes the choice to use any means necessary to do so. Realizing he has one option left to save her, The Flash turns to Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) for help. Michael Allowitz directed the episode with story by Andrew Kreisberg and teleplay by Grainne Godfree (#322). Original airdate 5/16/2017.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc...acters-a150683

[CharmedSerenity]

I confess I have yet to work up the courage to watch The Flash online (I don't get it on tv thanks to only having freeview) but have been following this thread and with all this talk of time-travel and all, I'm now wondering - could Jenni Ognats or Bart Allen ever appear on the show?

I'd definitely be sold if XS popped up.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

A fan favorite character is returning in episode 22:

Spoiler:

THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS; WENTWORTH MILLER RETURNS AS CAPTAIN COLD – With only 24 hours left until Savitar murders Iris (Candice Patton), Barry (Grant Gustin) struggles to save the woman he loves and makes the choice to use any means necessary to do so. Realizing he has one option left to save her, The Flash turns to Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) for help. Michael Allowitz directed the episode with story by Andrew Kreisberg and teleplay by Grainne Godfree (#322). Original airdate 5/16/2017.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc...acters-a150683

But he's dead still... unless Legends put him back in his own time... I'm all for seeing his return but they damn well better explain it and not just gloss over it...

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by CharmedSerenity

I confess I have yet to work up the courage to watch The Flash online (I don't get it on tv thanks to only having freeview) but have been following this thread and with all this talk of time-travel and all, I'm now wondering - could Jenni Ognats or Bart Allen ever appear on the show?

I'd definitely be sold if XS popped up.

John Wesley Shipp mentioned in an interview awhile back that the producers have talked about bringing in Bart, so it's only a matter of time before Impulse makes his Arrowverse debut.

I highly doubt the same can be said for Jenni though.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

But he's dead still... unless Legends put him back in his own time... I'm all for seeing his return but they damn well better explain it and not just gloss over it...

Yeah...I was thinking this earlier this morning. Didn't he get taken back to pre-recruitment into the Legends by Mick? So...he dead.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah...I was thinking this earlier this morning. Didn't he get taken back to pre-recruitment into the Legends by Mick? So...he dead.

Yeah. He died in Legends. A younger him was picked up by the villains and then presumably returned to his proper time so as to not totally mess up the timeline and him doing what he does with the Legends... and Legends hit their season finale already so, unless Barry goes back in time to borrow him from the timeline.... lol.

[Jester]

To be fair with all of Barry's manipulation of the time line I'm surprised he hasn't run afoul of the Legends.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Jester

To be fair with all of Barry's manipulation of the time line I'm surprised he hasn't run afoul of the Legends.

Maybe next season... although I'd like to see less time travel from Barry...

Although they did kind of touch on that with the 3 part crossover...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

John Wesley Shipp mentioned in an interview awhile back that the producers have talked about bringing in Bart, so it's only a matter of time before Impulse makes his Arrowverse debut.

I highly doubt the same can be said for Jenni though.

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

A fan favorite character is returning in episode 22:

Spoiler:

THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS; WENTWORTH MILLER RETURNS AS CAPTAIN COLD – With only 24 hours left until Savitar murders Iris (Candice Patton), Barry (Grant Gustin) struggles to save the woman he loves and makes the choice to use any means necessary to do so. Realizing he has one option left to save her, The Flash turns to Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) for help. Michael Allowitz directed the episode with story by Andrew Kreisberg and teleplay by Grainne Godfree (#322). Original airdate 5/16/2017.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc...acters-a150683

This excites me.

[Splinter the boss]

Watched Flash. Impressive episode. Future Barry had a weird voice.

[Autbot_Benz]

They Revealed Savitar and it was

Spoiler:

A Future Barry Allen