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Old 05-23-2017, 04:58 PM   #41
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Dude, who cares what she did in the past? Have a little respect for her because I can't imagine what she's going through right now. You say you hate Muslims, so you really need to look in a mirror before you judge what other people say.
Muslims are the problem. They want you to convert/submit or die. Thats in their "holy" book. I eon't hate them, they hate me.

But feel free to keep apologizing for them. Isis posted about doing this hours before it happened. Posted that more deaths will happen. Wake up and smell the bacon.

I'm not trigger. I just enjoy comong here to see y'all trying to be pc while saying that these things are horrible. Srop whining about it and address the problem at its source: muslims/islam/isis.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:16 PM   #42
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:34 PM   #43
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Muslims are the problem. They want you to convert/submit or die. Thats in their "holy" book. I eon't hate them, they hate me.

But feel free to keep apologizing for them. Isis posted about doing this hours before it happened. Posted that more deaths will happen. Wake up and smell the bacon.

I'm not trigger. I just enjoy comong here to see y'all trying to be pc while saying that these things are horrible. Srop whining about it and address the problem at its source: muslims/islam/isis.
This is one of the most blatantly racist posts I've seen on this forum in a long time.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:34 PM   #44
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Name a religion, and I bet we can find some "bad hombres" that try to explain or obscure their badness by claiming they're a member of it.

Stuff like this? It makes me think of that line from Captain America.
"People forget the first country the Nazi's invaded was their own."

These are people who see other Muslims as apostates. And they want us to see them all through that lens. It makes recruiting easier.

"See? See how crappy those people treat you? They deserve what we do to them."
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:39 PM   #45
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There are bad and good people of all religion and no religion. It isn't fair to demonize all muslims for the sins of a few people who pervert the teachings.

You can find examples of extremists and perversion of the core values in every religion.

This was the work of a mentally deficient individual. Plain and simple. If people would stop focusing on all the differences we have and focus on the similarities we share, the world would be a nicer place.

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It's horrible what happened, but Manchester is a strong city that won't be torn apart by hate. A lot of bad things happened today; the Philippine city Marawai got attacked by armed isis-linked extremists, car bombngs in Syria and bombing in Bangkok.

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Ah, yes. Just like Christians/Christianity/KKK.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:50 PM   #47
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Muslims are the problem. They want you to convert/submit or die. Thats in their "holy" book. I eon't hate them, they hate me.

But feel free to keep apologizing for them. Isis posted about doing this hours before it happened. Posted that more deaths will happen. Wake up and smell the bacon.

I'm not trigger. I just enjoy comong here to see y'all trying to be pc while saying that these things are horrible. Srop whining about it and address the problem at its source: muslims/islam/isis.
But as I have said before, it's not in their holy book because these extremists are not going by a holy book. They are twisting Islam into their own ideology and that's the problem. Anybody can do this no matter what religion they are and I'm sure there are people of other faiths who have their own ideology that isn't conducive to their core teachings and people who aren't religious who do the same thing. You just want to single out every Muslim for something other people decide to do. If anyone needs to wake up and smell the bacon, it's you with your narrow-minded thinking.

For the record, I am not being PC. I'm stating a fact that not all Muslims practice this type of faith, but you don't want to see that and would rather place the blame on everyone just because you don't like what's happening.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:56 PM   #48
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My heart goes out to the victims for being unjustly killed.

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This is one of the most blatantly racist posts I've seen on this forum in a long time.
Islam is not a race.

While I wouldn't say that the core text of Islam is liberal in any sense of the word (making adultery and male homosexuality criminal offences punishable with 100 severe lashes), it isn't objectively a text which demands every person of another religion be slaughtered like mrmaczaps says, otherwise I don't think civilizations founded upon this text would've survived for more than a thousand years.

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Old 05-23-2017, 05:59 PM   #49
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No good can come from this thread. We are letting our hatred fuel the discussion.

This thread needs to be locked.
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Yes, exactly, and through the years, religions have evolved in certain ways and vary from each text. Not everyone even follows those texts and some even have their own beliefs that may disagree with said texts. But Mac wants to believe stupid things and then challenge everyone else for disagreeing with him because he believes he's right all of the time.
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No good can come from this thread.
Was good supposed to come from this thread, or the intended purpose? It seemed to be an informative/discussion thread.
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No good can come from this thread. We are letting our hatred fuel the discussion.

This thread needs to be locked.
go back to your safe space if you can't handle the Adult discussions you snowflake
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:04 PM   #53
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In the end, even if we don't realize it, aren't all human beings bigoted in some way?

That's the ultimate evil that lurks within us as human beings. It will never change, not even if we tried.
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No good can come from this thread. We are letting our hatred fuel the discussion.

This thread needs to be locked.
The only one who is spouting hatred is mrmaczaps. The rest of us are trying to show compassion for those who were injured and killed.
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Was good supposed to come from this thread, or the intended purpose? It seemed to be an informative/discussion thread.
The thread was supposed to pay tribute to the victims of this gruesome attack. We were supposed to offer condolences to all of the people involved.

It has devolved into another thread of bickering and fighting, as per usual.

Frankly, I'm tired of humanity. I'm tired of society allowing deviancy and immorality ruling our way of life. I'm tired of society taking sides on issues that are way too important to be fighting over. I'm tired of society excusing it's imperfections with it's justification that it's a part of "being human".

I don't want to have any association with that. If I did, I would kill myself.
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Was good supposed to come from this thread, or the intended purpose? It seemed to be an informative/discussion thread.
Thank you Andrew. As with most of these subjects, they're posted for information; discussion can lead to... interesting debates, but I digress. Papen, if you wish to leave the discussion, go ahead. Despite any issues with Ariana Grande, in terms of character or music, it should not dominate discussion.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ttack-13075807

This link builds upon the damages. As we know from earlier, 22 people have died including an 8 year old child. Seems 120 people are also apart of the casualties too.
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Wait.....papi...You think imperfection....the most human thing....is something you can't associate with? Do you think you're perfect? Seriously? Cause I assure you you are not. No one is.

Its not a reason to kill yourself. You just learn from your mistakes. Thats what normal humans do.
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The thread was supposed to pay tribute to the victims of this gruesome attack. We were supposed to offer condolences to all of the people involved.
I don't see how any of that could be remotely inferred from GoldMutant's original post, who is the thread starter. Seemed like it was, "this is what happened. Discuss." We are.
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If it's not mrmaczaps blaming victims and being holier than the rest of us, it's Papenbrook drama queening.

Please. Let's get back to discussion.

So I heard the British Prime Minister saying that the military might start being stationed at concerts and other entertainment venues under "critical" threat level.

And I thought seeing police officers in theaters after 2012 was escalation...

What about the murderer's family? Did they never see any indication that he was a nutzo?
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