Spider-Man 2017 film

[NinjaPug]

Wow. That poster is terrible.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I almost couldn't believe it was studio-approved when I first saw it. I thought it was some hideous fan art.
The colors are all over the place. A poor CGI rendering of Iron Man is apparently supposed to be what makes me want to see this film, as it's placed awkwardly in the foreground. There's an explosion coming from nowhere. There are two skylines. Happy Hogan is on the poster when he probably gets 3 minutes of screentime. Once again Sony shows their mastery of mediocrity.

[GoldMutant]

I really wonder if they were trying to copy the poster style of the Iron-Man films, but just threw in those colors to make it... whatever that was supposed to be.

I don't get why the suit needs to talk to him in the trailer, it's rather unnecessary. The new footage looks cool, just wish there was some more high school footage instead of action. The camp scene though.

International trailer is much better than the previous trailers personally.

[Donatello19]

Anyone else feel like this film looks a bit...too silly? Not that I would want it to be all "dark" or whatever, but something about it just seems off to me, I'm not quite sure what it is exactly...maybe silly isn't the word, just something. It almost doesn't feel big, or like a movie at all really...agh, that probably doesn't make any sense either. Maybe it's either just the fact that this is sixth Spider-Man film overall, or that we already know the entire plot and how it's going to be paced (more or less) or maybe even a combination of both.

Something's just weird about this one. With pretty much every other MCU movie I either get super hyped and know I'm going to love it, or can tell that it's not gonna be something I'm super into, but will probably still enjoy. This one...I don't know. Anyone else feel the same way?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I'm with you, and I think it's the ****** Sony marketing. Whoever is in charge of marketing is an idiot.

Watch a trailer for just about any MCU film. You feel like it has, I dunno, some sort of conviction. A story to tell. Something it wants you to understand in a relatively subtle way. Sony marketing does things a little differently; trailers are just montages of the best moments to them. It's like their idea of trailer-editing went back 20 or 30 years.

Take Iron Man 3 for instance. Revolting and horrible film, but a frickin' awesome trailer! There's build-up, there's a mini-story being told. It gives you a general idea for the tone of the film without exposing you to any details at all.



That's not how Sony marketing works. They throw all the money shots, all the interesting bits, anything they think could ever intrigue an audience member into 2-and-a-half minutes. You get this horrible mess of a trailer that makes you feel almost worn-out by the time it's over. You've seen all the cameos (replete use of the RDJ's scenes); you know the details of Peter's journey (he gains Tony's trust temporarily, is told not to fight the Vulture, fights the Vulture, loses Tony's trust, then seeks it all over again). The very, very first trailer for Homecoming was good, but it was all downhill from there.

[GoldMutant]

If the marketing were much better (use only a few of the big/funny moments with some of the school stuff), then I'd think fans may warm up to the film more. Sony, the inane company that it is, really is desperate for cash at this point given how mediocre this advertising is; good at first, now middling.

I'm still going to see it as I am a die hard Spider-Man guy, but man this really doesn't do anything for me.
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Just curious, but after Vulture and Shocker here, who would you guys have as the Homecoming 2 villain(s)? My money is on Kraven, Scorpion, or Mysterio/Chameleon as one of the next villains, assuming they don't reuse a previous antagonist.

I do remember brainstorming an idea for Swarm last year... it was really bad.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

I'm still going to see it as I am a die hard Spider-Man guy, but man this really doesn't do anything for me.

I LOVE Spider-Man, he's my favorite superhero. But even ASM2 had me more interested than this. I like Holland a lot, he really made an impression in Civil War - but this film looks so empty in terms of Spidey's character, and in terms of being a film on its own merits. Like, as if no one making it had ever picked up a Spidey comic ever. This is something I'll rent from Netflix when that time comes; I don't intend to see this one in theaters.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I LOVE Spider-Man, he's my favorite superhero. But even ASM2 had me more interested than this. I like Holland a lot, he really made an impression in Civil War - but this film looks so empty in terms of Spidey's character, and in terms of being a film on its own merits. Like, as if no one making it had ever picked up a Spidey comic ever. This is something I'll rent from Netflix when that time comes; I don't intend to see this one in theaters.

*hears Amazing 2, gets triggered*

My bias aside, I seriously don't get what the film is trying to do here. Does it want to be a popcorn fluff film? Is it trying to be goofy with some emotional? Or is it Tony Stank with Spider-Boy? (If option 3, I leave. )

I'm sure Tom Holland can carry the movie alone, though I can't say he's my favorite Spider-Man yet. (Rino Romano shockingly is my favorite voice, not Keaton!) It has the coolness of Spidey's abilities, but without the Peter Parker side of the story, I can't say I fully enjoy a Spidey work. It's why I really like Spider-Man 2 only out of the five films so far.

Granted, this film can certainly surprise me, but I anticipate Black Panther much more personally.

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The suit talks to him.

Like your post, can't stop watching it especially when I was also surprised at the fact that the suit talks to him. I don't think I've seen that before. But I kinda see what they're trying to do, since it's Stark who made it for him, they thought it would be cool if their suits were similar in that aspect.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Anyone else feel like this film looks a bit...too silly?

Something's just weird about this one. With pretty much every other MCU movie I either get super hyped and know I'm going to love it, or can tell that it's not gonna be something I'm super into, but will probably still enjoy. This one...I don't know. Anyone else feel the same way?

This version of Peter Parker doesn't seem as authentic to me for some reason. The boat scene will be a clear callback to the train sequence from Raimi's Spider-Man 2...which makes me just want to watch that movie again. And essentially giving him Miles Morales' supporting cast makes it seem like a terribly calculated experiment in fanservice (like Donald Glover's appearance in the more recent trailer).

Every Marvel film after the first Avengers (with perhaps the exception of Winter Soldier) has given me the same vibe as these trailers. There'll be action, explosions, some pretty people to look at, and some Hans Zimmer style wub-wub-sonic booms.

Whatever character development occurs will just put this Spider-Man in his starting position for Infinity War or the sequel to this. The stakes feel artificial.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Take Iron Man 3 for instance. Revolting and horrible film, but a frickin' awesome trailer! There's build-up, there's a mini-story being told. It gives you a general idea for the tone of the film without exposing you to any details at all.

That trailer still makes me mad. That was NOT the tone of the film! It also mixed so much stuff into it, even stuff from the ending, in the most deceptive of ways. I really, really wanted to see that movie.

As for the Spider-Man Homecoming trailer and marketing... I dunno. I'm about 110% it's going to look and feel and taste and be as enjoyable as every other official MCU movie but the only difference here is that it's Sony handling the marketing. That could be a huge problem.

[sdp]

Iron Man 3's deceptive trailers caused me to not watch another Marvel movie since. I think the effects have finally worn off, I wanted to watch Civil War but felt too overwhelmed by the continuity by that point.

I mean that IM3 trailer looked so awesome and they pulled a ****** bait and switch. Don't they realize that having that type of twist only works if the twist is better than the proposed plot you were hinting at?


I'm getting into the Marvel mood again so I think I'll start watching the movies in about a year or so and be all caught up by the time Avengers 3 is in theaters,

[ToTheNines]

Cool BTS feature, if you have the time. Plenty of new footy, but doesn't spoil anything the trailers haven't already.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

but the only difference here is that it's Sony handling the marketing. That could be a huge problem.

Seems like they're cheaping out. My showings of Guardians 2 and Wonder Woman both had Ragnarok trailers but no Homecoming. I think there might have been one with Rogue One, but definitely nothing else I've seen in the past 6 months.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Seems like they're cheaping out. My showings of Guardians 2 and Wonder Woman both had Ragnarok trailers but no Homecoming. I think there might have been one with Rogue One, but definitely nothing else I've seen in the past 6 months.

I definitely saw a Spider-Man trailer with Guardians 2.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Maybe it's either just the fact that this is sixth Spider-Man film overall, or that we already know the entire plot and how it's going to be paced (more or less) or maybe even a combination of both.

You know this is actually going to be like the tenth Spider-Man film if we count the ones that came out in the 70's and 80's.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I definitely saw a Spider-Man trailer with Guardians 2.

Weird. I saw that at a Regal, which shows literally just under a half hour of trailers with each flick. No Spidey for us.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Xav

You know this is actually going to be like the tenth Spider-Man film if we count the ones that came out in the 70's and 80's.

Which ones were they? I know there were a couple of feature-length episodes with Nicolas Hammond when his series was airing, but what else was there?

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Which ones were they? I know there were a couple of feature-length episodes with Nicolas Hammond when his series was airing, but what else was there?

The pilot of the Hammond series (1977), Spider-Man Strikes Back (following year) The Dragon's Challenge (1981), the three Sam Rami films, the two Marc Webb films, and I'm going to presume if Xav thinks ten, then Civil War to an extent.

I really don't count the Hammond "films" though as they were in select theaters and instead mostly television. Same with Civil War as it starred Spider-Man, but not for too long.

[DestronMirage22]

Looking back at it, I like the design used for Spidey's suit in this film, but I hate all the gadgets and stuff they gave him. He's a few steps away from being Iron-Man.

He's got:
*A built in computer that talks to him and calculates stuff for him
*A mini spider drone for scouting stuff
*Built in flight suit
*Deployable parachute
*Eye lenses that focus and enhance
*And other stuff I probably missed and stuff they haven't shown

It's way too much. It all takes away from the point of Spider-Man. Where's the struggle?
I know that he'll lose the suit and will have to prove himself without it, blah blah blah, but having it all in the first place is just unnecessary. I bet the film will end with him having all that junk back too.
Ugh.