Does Nickelodeon hate us?

[Andrew NDB]

This is literally the latest two TMNT offerings from Nickelodeon:





Talk about a left AND a right hook.

[Candy Kappa]

It's not been confirmed yet that that is the official look on Rises.

[CyberCubed]

No, but Michael Bay is a moron.

Thankfully the movie series is done so it doesn't matter much anymore.

[Utrommaniac]

I hate them back.

Why is your only nice TMNT thing from IDW? Or with IDW since they get more credit?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Why is your only nice TMNT thing from IDW?

Because Nick has zero to do with that beyond approvals and telling them, "No, no, that's too violent, dial it back."

[Shark_Blade]

We actually got the most perfect modern April O' Neil in the silver screen tbh. Heck, she even beaten the Shredder.



That Rise design tho... I'd reject that faster than Teen Titans Go if that is the final design.

[Vegita-San]

I think Nick doesn't really care what we think.

They have an audience of kids to please, that are only used to badly animated flash crap, badly stylized flash crap, or a few handful of CG comedy shows.


I worried that when the sale happened, this is EXACTLY what we would get. I guess we should be thankful it held off for one series at least, even if it hit the movies immediately.

And IDW is thankfully independent of nick. a Reboot from the ground up like that is really what the comic needed at this point.


but as far as TMNT movies and TV shows go, I think the days of appealing to older fans are long gone. might be best to just stick with the comics.

like I said in the other thread, RIP TMNT. but at least we all for the most part seem to agree this looks horrible for a change

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

It's not been confirmed yet that that is the official look on Rises.

basically what I was going to say. People need to chill out and wait for official confirmation about the design.

[snake]

Yeah, probably.

[Andrew NDB]

Imagine if this does end up being FAKE... but then the real designs end up actually being significantly worse?

[plastroncafe]

They'd have to care about you in order to hate, you and they don't.
Welcome to Aging out of the Target Demographic.

(ftr: I think that design is adorable)

[The Deadman]

I eagerly anticipate the rage from the portion of the fanbase that the show is NOT catering to.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Nick doesn't hate us, they just don't care all that much about us. What they care about is profit. They get (most) of the adult fan profit from the IDW license, and collector toys. The non-comic media is made for the children's demographic, and as they see it, that brings in the the largest profit.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

I eagerly anticipate the rage from the portion of the fanbase that the show is NOT catering to.

It's gotten to the point where I'm more excited about the backlash than I am the announcements that spawned them.

[Shark_Blade]

Count me in the angry mob movement.



First Trump, now this nonsense? Never! #NotMyTMNT

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's gotten to the point where I'm more excited about the backlash than I am the announcements that spawned them.

It doesn't matter how bad something is, as long as you get your superiority tears from angry fans, right?

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by snake

It doesn't matter how bad something is, as long as you get your superiority tears from angry fans, right?

I prefer the tears of broflakes the best.
Because they're the ones who've spent the longest time telling me and mine that since we're not the target audience, we should pipe down.

And now...they're not the target audience either.

[GoldMutant]

It could be worse, you could be getting no content at all like most Viacom properties that may want the opportunities of TMNT nowadays.

As others have said earlier, the Rise info is not "officially" confirmed yet, even if the artwork looks like it is. For the sake of argument, we're comparing one piece of artwork with info not fully elaborated on. It may turn out well, but it also may be weak.

Should the series bomb, however, we're looking at another few year break as we did following The Next Mutation. It'll be revived as a result, maybe with a different direction, or the same material.

As for the films... just let them die honestly. All the threads made won't change the fact that that series is done due to a box office disappointment. There are minimal things that could be reused in future incarnations (and that's being generous), but it's likely going to be forgotten. Even then, 2016 wasn't one of the best theater years as a movie goer myself.

What I'm saying is this though: many franchises under Nickelodeon deserve better. Fairly Odd Parents after being revived, Danny Phantom after its third season. Series such as Harvey Beaks that were squandered by the network. There are probably more examples, but those are notable ones, especially the first two that I grew up on.

Either way, if this is the direction going forward, I'm not following. I'm personally moving onto college by the time Rise officially airs; by then though, I'd rather invest time into other TMNT incarnations. The new will draw in audiences to keep the franchise alive as Nick and IDW have done (I don't know how much PD did in that regard), but eventually, something will have to give. That's the sense I'm getting with this.

Wow, I rambled on for a bit. These are my general thoughts based on this "leaked" news.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I prefer the tears of broflakes the best.
Because they're the ones who've spent the longest time telling me and mine that since we're not the target audience, we should pipe down.

And now...they're not the target audience either.

Who is saying that? No one above the age of 12 (and that's being generous) has been the target audience of anything TMNT for many years now.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Who is saying that? No one above the age of 12 (and that's being generous) has been the target audience of anything TMNT for many years now.

Says the guy who made the "Does Nick Hate Us?" thread...