Which Star Wars movie has done the most damage to the franchise?

*Andrew NDB* · 11-12-2017, 03:08 AM

I'm curious. Which movie, in and of itself, do you feel has damaged... if not the credibility, then perhaps the reputation of the franchise most?

~~Sumac~~ · 11-12-2017, 05:45 AM

Allegedly, Phantom Menace, it's my favorite movie out of prequel trilogy, but there is no denying, people started seeing, that prequels certainly won't be up to the style and more importantly, quality of the OT, since this movie.

Attack of the Clones is my least favorite movie in the franchise, as of now, but aside from it being boring as **** and cheesy, it's was just mediocre and par for the course for the PT.

*newfan* · 11-12-2017, 06:24 AM

Yeah attack of the clones was the least interesting to me also.
I liked the original movies better than the prequels.

*ProphetofGanja* · 11-12-2017, 06:28 AM

I feel like I should rewatch them all before I vote, and get around to finally watching Rogue One for the first time, too

But it's gotta be one of the prequel three

*Shark_Blade* · 11-12-2017, 06:43 AM

Attack of the Clones (and Revenge of the Sith really), purely because of Hayden Christensen's awful **** "acting". When he cries or throwing a childish tantrum it just makes me wanna laugh, I can't take him seriously. That sand talk with Padme lol wtf.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-12-2017, 07:48 AM

I don't think Attack of the Clones is that bad...until you get to Hayden and the love story.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 11-12-2017, 08:43 AM

Where's the option for the Holiday Special?

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 11-12-2017, 08:59 AM

I didn't care for episode 7 or Rogue One... but ep7 gets the vote cuz it was episode 4 rewound... bland and you could see the death coming a mile away...

*sdp* · 11-12-2017, 09:10 AM

The first movie did the most damage to the franchise Ninjister?

*Spike Spiegel* · 11-12-2017, 10:20 AM

I say TFA, not because it was bad from a technical standpoint, but because it was too predictable.

*plastroncafe* · 11-12-2017, 10:26 AM

I'm curious, what damage to the franchise did TFA do, exactly?

*sdp* · 11-12-2017, 11:15 AM

How do you define damage, thread is ambiguous.

Finacial damage? TFA? none. Prequels? none. On the contrary the IP is as valuable as ever and has been with each release.

Plot damage? TFA? high, didn't move the plot and instead hit reset. Prequels? some but not to the amount fans whine about.

Brand damage (not to be confused with fanboy damage)? TFA? little. Prequels? little. Yearly movies in the short term? some. In the long term? high.

Fanboy damage? TFA- first 0 but now it's been rising over the past two years. Prequels? Total disaster.

*CyberCubed* · 11-12-2017, 12:32 PM

The Han solo solo movie. Recasting the iconic Han Solo will do damage.

*Allio* · 11-12-2017, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

I feel like I should rewatch them all before I vote, and get around to finally watching Rogue One for the first time, too

But it's gotta be one of the prequel three

I'm definitely doing a rewatch before movie 8. I want to try my viewing order

*Shark_Blade* · 11-12-2017, 08:27 PM

Lol Force Awakens is winning. Any reasons why it's damaging? Oh wait I think because the villains suck - Kylo Ren is a whiny brat and I prefer Jarr Jarr Binks as the Sith Lord than lame ass Snooke.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-12-2017, 08:35 PM

TFA greatly damaged the credibility and creativity of the franchise. After it, particularly with it being the first movie post-sale, we can no longer trust that subsequent movies will take us to new places creatively or thematically. Even the worst of the prequels (and yeah, Attack of the Clones is probably the worst of them, pound for pound) at least didn't do outright retreads.

*ProphetofGanja* · 11-12-2017, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allio

I'm definitely doing a rewatch before movie 8. I want to try my viewing order

What's' your viewing order?

*Roseangelo* · 11-12-2017, 08:38 PM

Attack of the Clones is the weakest of all the movies, but I don't think I'd call any of them particularly damaging.

*Allio* · 11-12-2017, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

What's' your viewing order?

theoretically building on "Flash back" watch order, going

Rogue One > 4 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 8

should be right

basically it boils down to

The Empire > “There is no Hope” > an extremely dangerous person (Darth Vader) appears > Suddenly a new hope > Someone that can stand against vader > holy ****, vader is luke’s father > the origin of Vader and the Jedis > How the villains won > Episode 6

Now I haven't tried this watch order yet like I said, so I don't know if this truly would work. But Rogue One honestly feels like a good "set-up" movie for the rest of the franchise.

Han Solo film probably would go right there between 6 and 7 as not only does it give it a bit more background before Solo's death, but also a good "break" before "time skip"

*Powder* · 11-12-2017, 09:01 PM

The new stuff is damning SW to the same nostalgia-wank retread BS that TMNT is going through, so I voted TFA.

View Poll Results: Which one?
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace	6	23.08%
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones	6	23.08%
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith	1	3.85%
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope	1	3.85%
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back	0	0%
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi	0	0%
Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens	12	46.15%
A Star Wars Story: Rogue One	0	0%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

11-12-2017, 03:08 AM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,558	Which Star Wars movie has done the most damage to the franchise? I'm curious. Which movie, in and of itself, do you feel has damaged... if not the credibility, then perhaps the reputation of the franchise most? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-12-2017, 06:24 AM	#3
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	Yeah attack of the clones was the least interesting to me also. I liked the original movies better than the prequels. Last edited by newfan; 11-12-2017 at 06:38 AM.

11-12-2017, 06:28 AM	#4
ProphetofGanja Dub Professor Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dub Side of the Moon Posts: 3,497	I feel like I should rewatch them all before I vote, and get around to finally watching Rogue One for the first time, too But it's gotta be one of the prequel three __________________ "We've been frantically trying to reach you, Dude."

11-12-2017, 07:48 AM	#6
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	I don't think Attack of the Clones is that bad...until you get to Hayden and the love story. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-12-2017, 05:45 AM	#2
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	Allegedly, Phantom Menace, it's my favorite movie out of prequel trilogy, but there is no denying, people started seeing, that prequels certainly won't be up to the style and more importantly, quality of the OT, since this movie. Attack of the Clones is my least favorite movie in the franchise, as of now, but aside from it being boring as **** and cheesy, it's was just mediocre and par for the course for the PT.

11-12-2017, 06:43 AM	#5
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Attack of the Clones (and Revenge of the Sith really), purely because of Hayden Christensen's awful **** "acting". When he cries or throwing a childish tantrum it just makes me wanna laugh, I can't take him seriously. That sand talk with Padme lol wtf.

11-12-2017, 08:59 AM	#8
~~mrmaczaps~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 2,619	I didn't care for episode 7 or Rogue One... but ep7 gets the vote cuz it was episode 4 rewound... bland and you could see the death coming a mile away...

11-12-2017, 09:10 AM	#9
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	The first movie did the most damage to the franchise Ninjister? __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-12-2017, 11:15 AM	#12
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	How do you define damage, thread is ambiguous. Finacial damage? TFA? none. Prequels? none. On the contrary the IP is as valuable as ever and has been with each release. Plot damage? TFA? high, didn't move the plot and instead hit reset. Prequels? some but not to the amount fans whine about. Brand damage (not to be confused with fanboy damage)? TFA? little. Prequels? little. Yearly movies in the short term? some. In the long term? high. Fanboy damage? TFA- first 0 but now it's been rising over the past two years. Prequels? Total disaster. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-12-2017, 12:32 PM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	The Han solo solo movie. Recasting the iconic Han Solo will do damage.

11-12-2017, 08:27 PM	#15
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Lol Force Awakens is winning. Any reasons why it's damaging? Oh wait I think because the villains suck - Kylo Ren is a whiny brat and I prefer Jarr Jarr Binks as the Sith Lord than lame ass Snooke.

11-12-2017, 08:35 PM	#16
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,558	TFA greatly damaged the credibility and creativity of the franchise. After it, particularly with it being the first movie post-sale, we can no longer trust that subsequent movies will take us to new places creatively or thematically. Even the worst of the prequels (and yeah, Attack of the Clones is probably the worst of them, pound for pound) at least didn't do outright retreads. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-12-2017, 08:38 PM	#18
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,119	Attack of the Clones is the weakest of all the movies, but I don't think I'd call any of them particularly damaging. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

11-12-2017, 09:01 PM	#20
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	The new stuff is damning SW to the same nostalgia-wank retread BS that TMNT is going through, so I voted TFA.