Official Justice League Movie

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

How so?

Assuming "Flashpoint" does end up being some kind of big TIME TRAVEL megavent reboot (and why wouldn't we think that's what it is when that's what it is in the comic of that name written by Johns?) for the DCEU... even if it leads to a non-killing Batman or a gentle massage of the continuity of all of the 4 movies so far (!!!), that makes things pretty radioactive for regular audiences. 4 movies in a shared universe and then a reboot, just when we're getting used to everybody? How bizarre.

And I can almost guarantee you Geoff Johns is the only guy in the room pushing SHAZAM!.

I want to believe that, although I'm pretty positive he's still directing the JL sequel.

Absolutely zero chance Snyder would be directing any Justice League 2.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by sdp

I don't fault DC for their misses as much as I fault them for scrapping/changing everything the moment something doesn't go as planned. They did it with Superman Returns, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, BvS, Suicide Squad, Justice League. They don't get to do it anymore.

So much this, man. They really gotta stick to their guns.

[Chris]

I'm pretty sure Flashpoint won't really reboot anything. It may tweak or massage some minor details but probably only the hardcore fanbase would really notice.

It sounds like JL is the soft reboot, especially in terms of Batman & Superman's characterisations. It gets everyone where they need to be and allows WB to move forward from there. It also, from all reports/spoilers, ignores BvS as much as possible. Yeah it has to address major stuff like Superman being dead but beyond that it ignores it as much as it can. Better to just move on and forget. By the time Flashpoint comes no one in the general audience will be thinking about MoS or BvS or care if they get retconned or not, best just leave it be, they happened but don't need to be referenced. No point opening old wounds and if JL gets the characters where they need to be then best just move forward.

They may use it to replace Affleck but I hope not. Just recast and get on with it, they can't do a Flaspoint or Crisis every time they need to change a member of the cast.

[sdp]

I can see Affleck being Thomas Wayne in the Flashpoint movie and giving us the new Batman in that film.

It's too bad, I was not happy with Affleck when he was announced but I think he is the best Batman we've ever had in movie form.

You know whose to blame? Internet fanboys and FAKE news. Affleck loved being Batman, he mentioned it plenty of times. BvS started getting bad reviews and people started attacking, sure before that people made fun of "fat" Batman from the first released pic but it wasn't until "Sad Affleck" hit that people kept saying "oh he'll quit the role", you had article after article in "geek" pop culture websites asking about Affleck and the Batroll and doing the blog rounds to get hits.

Then you had the whole asking week after week if Affleck was attached to the movie how many confirmations did we god damn get? It was because people were still writing about it and it almost seemed that any bad decision DC/WB was making people would take it out on Affleck and ask him again if he was still attached. After what over a year of it I think he just got tired of it. People took their emotions about the DCEU and lashed it all out on him.

I hope this latest quote was only a joke to **** with people since he's tired of being asked about it time after time. But if not RIP Affleck Batman. The nu-geek/hipster culture killed you before your time.

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

WB, an owner of Rotten Tomatoes, is withholding the RT score until release so it doesn't hurt the box office. Where are all the nutjob DC fans now that claim Disney and RT are in cahoots to pump up their Marvel movie scores?

WB owning a part of RT doesn't mean it has any influence. RT is just a reviews agregator, many critics liking or disliking a movie doesn't mean the movie is actually bad, a movie with mixed reviews will get a 50% but that could mean 50% love the film, not that they rated it 5/10.

I do think reviewers go easier on Marvel and harder on DC which leads to these scores. Disney is not in cahoots, it's more about fanboys.

[CyberCubed]

Either way they could just recast Batman and just leave it at that, and not even mention a change. It doesn't matter if Bruce is a different actor, it doesn't need any explanation in-universe. Sometimes actors change all the time in movie sequels.

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds like JL retcons away the "phone call from Lex Luthor Jr. to Steppenwolf" deleted/extended scene from BvS:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justi...vealed-a155342

Though, in fact, doesn't that make even the actual ending of BvS not make sense? Lex was in his cell talking about "He's coming!" at the end. Just a lucky guess, now?

[Papenbrook]

Spoiler:

So evidently, there is going to be some "sexual tension" between Batman and Wonder Woman.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Spoiler:

So evidently, there is going to be some "sexual tension" between Batman and Wonder Woman.

What's wrong with that? That was a big part of the post-Morrison JL run.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Spoiler:

So evidently, there is going to be some "sexual tension" between Batman and Wonder Woman.

I'm guessing you never watched the Justice League animated series.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Spoiler:

So evidently, there is going to be some "sexual tension" between Batman and Wonder Woman.

Where have you been that has always been there from the comics to the Cartoons. stop getting triggered.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Sounds like JL retcons away the "phone call from Lex Luthor Jr. to Steppenwolf" deleted/extended scene from BvS:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justi...vealed-a155342

Though, in fact, doesn't that make even the actual ending of BvS not make sense? Lex was in his cell talking about "He's coming!" at the end. Just a lucky guess, now?

I've not really read any spoilers about what brings Steppenwolf but I never really considered the BvS scene a "phone call", just the ship teaching Lex as he requested. If Superman's death is what activates a mother box (why it would do that is a whole different can of worms, I'll resist opening that till I see the film!) then it could simply be that the ship told Lex that his death would do that and that would bring Steppenwolf. That would explain the whole "he's coming" thing.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Spoiler:

So evidently, there is going to be some "sexual tension" between Batman and Wonder Woman.

What exactly is bad about it?

Woman and Man has sexual tension? Oh no, how dare they in the year 2017! How horrible!! It's propaganda of sexism and horrible traditional values! Everyone should be gay, "zir" and trasngender - that's the way to the future!!

[Autbot_Benz]

Reviews are out.

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/...-league-review 7/10 Good

Collider: http://collider.com/justice-league-r...=social#poster D+

Variety: http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews...ot-1202614266/

Hollywood Reporter: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rev...review-1057114 A Chore to sit through

[CyberCubed]

Reviews seem all over the place, but at the very least it doesn't seem too bad a movie. I'll settle for it being average.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Reviews are out.

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/...-league-review 7/10 Good

Collider: http://collider.com/justice-league-r...=social#poster D+

Variety: http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews...ot-1202614266/

Hollywood Reporter: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rev...review-1057114 A Chore to sit through

So the reviews are mixed, so basically, you'll either love it or hate it.

[ZariusTwo]

"Disposable once you've seen it"

[sdp]

I'm thinking about going to the midnight show but still unsure about it. I feel if I don't go to the premier I won't watch it until it's on Netflix, and not because I got my panties in a twist over bare midriffs.

I didn't watch SS or WW, should I marathon those quickly before?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

I didn't watch SS or WW, should I marathon those quickly before?

WW, for sure. SS, I wouldn't bother, though there is a mid-credits scene that ties into JL for sure.

[myconius]

i'll see it regardless of the reviews.

just REALLY hoping it's much better than BvS.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by myconius

just REALLY hoping it's much better than BvS.

I haven't seen any review yet that has disagreed that it's better than BvS. How much, that might be the contention.

I wonder why none of the reviews so far have talked about the score.