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As for Maz, I'm not sure what to think about her. Didn't she say Chewy was her boyfriend in TFA or was that supposed to be a joke?
I do want to know why she had Luke's lightsaber, I feel like that's the only question from TFA that should have gotten some answer, unlike Rey's parents being important or Snoke saying how he rose to power in the year 836 A.D. and was Darth Sidious' younger brother cousin. |
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With the mixed reactions and the fact that JJ is coming back I wouldn't be surprised if Disney just tells Abrahams to reset everything from TLJ. JJ likely wants his vision of the trilogy that he had when he made TFA and now that TLJ got this response he will have full control to "make thigns right. Remember that Trevorrow was basically fired for not wanting to do the thigns Disney wanted for Ep.IX.
Captain Phasma will be back. Snoke could come back. Rey could get parents. Maz would come back and be important. Force ghost Luke tells Rey he acted like that because it was part of her training. The Mouse is going to "keep it safe" for Ep. IX Also, if at the end of the film the good guys are the underdogs while the First Order are basically the new Empire. Doesn't that mean that even when the new Rebels defeat the First Order again we're back to ROTJ? Where they gave a "lethal blow" to the First Order but they still have plenty of influence and "IT"S NOT LOGICAL FOR THE FIRST ORDER JUST TO BE GONE LIKE THAT IT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE FOR THEM TO STILL BE AROUND". I mean TLJ let's us know that the resistance/rebels no longer have influence in the galaxy again, it's the first order that rules. |
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi is proof that a franchise needs to mature with its fans
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The only thing I could see J.J. Abrams going back on is Rey's parents, but I hope they don't. Luke said "Who are you?" to Rey meaning he never saw her before, and her being related to Obi-wan or anyone else just wouldn't make sense either. Seeing her just be a "normal person" from random nobodies fits better, and makes her less of a generic "chosen one" like other series does.
I don't think they'll bother bringing Snoke back. He was cut in half, his eyes were lifeless, and unlike Darth Maul falling down a chute, he literally lay their dead for that long scene of them fighting the red imperial guards and then Kylo Ren and Rey trying to convince each other to join each others sides. The audiences expectations for Snoke are also now over due to this film, unlike the speculation from Episode 7 so nobody is going to think to see him again. I do think Episode 9 will have a typical happy ending. Kylo Ren will be defeated or killed, the First Order will be gone, and the heroes rejoice. |
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Would it really even be considered "going back" if we got to meet Rey's parents?
Take who that information came from. Kylo Ren is a liar, why are we suddenly supposed to just believe him?
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The Obi-Wan thing is weird. The closest she could be to him is his granddaughter, and that's not very exciting. Benicio Del Toro's DJ character could end up being the dad, coming back with a change of heart in IX. Quote:
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I never liked the Obi Wan grand daughter or whatever theory, the problem with Rey is they tried to make it a big mystery but the only cool outcome was for her to be a Skywalker somehow which even the second trailer alludes to. Of course that was also the most predictable outcome, when we saw Finn and Rey we knew Rey was the "skywalker". I do think the "Episodes" have to deal with the Skywalker line somehow. Having Rey have no parents while not the worst thing they could do is still underwhelming, especially since they built the trilogy on the mystery of who she was as I mentioned before.
We still have it with Kylo but that's another problem, having him repeat Anakin/Vader is tough. I really wish they'd had the big kahuna's and had both Rey and Ben form an alliance to get rid of the first order, resistance, jedi and sith like he mentioned. That would've been an awesome cliffhanger. If we think about it they're now the bad guys but at the same time they aren't, it depends on the point of view and would give us a totally different Episode IX, instead of the predictable by the numbers sequel we're going to get which just replicates ROTJ. Think about it, if Kylo turns to the light side then it was just a remake of the Vader storyline, if he doesn't then Han Solo died like a chump and still doesn't make the movie better that "he never turned back". It's a lose/lose situation, neither outcome is exciting. |
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Somehow I missed this originally but according to this JJ and Rian are on the same page about Rey's parentage. http://collider.com/star-wars-reys-parents-answer/ |
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Well, a bit of damage control to me. they HAVE to be now. they change it again and they'll upset even more devoted fans.
Rian screwed the pooch writing this thing too damn early. 'I'm getting a bit of ghostbusters dejvu for....' Oh for Craps sake give it a rest already 'progressive' internet article writers. if the movie stinks, it stinks. stop trying to blame it on something else. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#496212d7cd3f |
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whoops.
I just read the article title. I assumed it was something recent. But after having read it, it PROVES disney has no real plan here. Abhrams told him, but rian wasn't supposed to follow it and could come up with something on his own? how does that sound like a game plan? |
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What does that have to do with anything? If J.J. Abrams had no plans for Rey's parents to be anyone important, and Rian Johnson didn't either, then...they're both on the same page?
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The craziest character in Star Wars history is the guy who tastes a new planet and goes “salt.” ****ing lunatic.
KYLO: The Resistance is over, and the Jedi will die forev— SOLDIER: (tastes planet) KYLO: Why’d you do that? SOLDIER: I dunno. KYLO: ...For God's sake LUKE: Every part of that was wr— KYLO: That guy just ate dirt. LUKE: What? SOLDIER: It’s fine. It’s salt. KYLO: YOU DIDN’T KNOW THAT! SOLDIER: Just go... go back to what you guys were doing. LUKE: Dude. Don’t taste a new planet. I mean, who— (chuckles) KYLO: Right?! LUKE: What’s your deal? You w/ them? KYLO: He is NOT my guy. Ew. LUKE: You do this a lot? SOLDIER: No! LUKE: (closes eyes) You’ve tasted 14 planets |
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I'm surprised by the lack of new planets in the movie, most of the movie felt like it was set in space.
All we got was Luke's island (which barely counts), the casino world planet, and then Krait (I think that's the name?) where it was basically just another ice planet with a bunker. |
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To be fair there's only so many type of planet designs you can do:
1. Sand = Tatooine and Jakku 2. Ice/snow = Hoth and Crait 3. Forest = Endor, planet in Episode 7 where Maz was 4. Fire/volcano = Episode III planet where Obi-wan/Anakin fought, or Sullust 5. Swamp = Degobah 6. Cloud = Cloud City/Bespin 7. Underwater = Naboo, Underwater city 8. Casino = Episode 8 9. Beach/tropical = Scariff in Rogue One Then you just have the usual futuristic looking cities/planets with huge buildings and flying cars, which is basically every other planet. |
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But Crait was neither ice nor snow.
True... but almost none of TFA was set in space. There's a little bit of a balance there, whether intentional or not.
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Yeah, Crait is a mineral planet, its covered in salt.
It's based on a real place that has a salt flat https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wi...salar-de-uyuni Last edited by TigerClaw; 12-20-2017 at 10:52 PM. |
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Granted, it's a little troubling that they just had to have the second installment in a new trilogy where the last one was beyond heavily criticized for slavishly following the first installment of the last one... with Walkers on a white planet with essentially skiffs flying about them, when that same thing was like the most iconic scene of that movie. Admittedly, nothing really comes of the New Walkers... but they're there. And why are they even there?
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