Should there be a strong LGBTQ+ presence on "Rise of the TMNT"? - Page 3

~~Leonardo_thebest~~ · 02-02-2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f...23-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?

And people think I'm a troll.

April will likely explore her gender, but not her sexuality, even though it's a healthy and important part of life. I'm sure it would raise a few eyebrows if Nick went that route.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-02-2018, 10:38 AM

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

Those crazy kids these days...

*plastroncafe* · 02-02-2018, 11:14 AM

Old man yells at clouds! Andrew is way less fun.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-02-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_thebest

And people think I'm a troll.

April will likely explore her gender, but not her sexuality, even though it's a healthy and important part of life. I'm sure it would raise a few eyebrows if Nick went that route.

It's like there can be only one on the forums.
At least Andrew is fun. Which I can't say about you.

Also, part about exploring gender and not sexuality is such bull-dang.
It's vice-versa. Not in the current days of post-truth and insanity, but in general.

eskater · 02-02-2018, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

This entire forum is just going to be utter bullsh!t for the next month or so, isn't it?

Thanks, Rise...

Oh yeah (flashback to when the PD TMNT came out)

*CyberCubed* · 02-02-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

http://www.highlander-community.com/babs.jpg

Those crazy kids these days...

I don't get this, is that person not a girl?

*newfan* · 02-02-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eskater

Oh yeah (flashback to when the PD TMNT came out)

This is a toon for a younger audience, I don't know what people think they are getting beyond possible subtleties.

*neatoman* · 02-02-2018, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

http://www.highlander-community.com/babs.jpg

Those crazy kids these days...

No, of course not. Characters who only exist to "represent" something rather than have an impact on the story, are nothing but a pointless distraction. Unless the stuff they "represent" is either part of the story, informs their actions or is a neutral aspect that is barely touched on upon (if at all), it's just going to come across as forced. By all means, have characters who belongs to one of these groups, just make sure it's an actual character and not some virtue signaling distraction.

Just for comparison imagine for a moment that you're watching a movie that's about anything other than, let's say, mining. Now somewhere in the middle of this movie, a miner shows up and starts talking about how dangerous it is to be a miner for five minutes. That would be pointless.

Now let's say the movie is about about mining and the hardships of mining is indeed shown to us rather than told to us, wouldn't that make more sense? Or if the movie still isn't about mining, if this character lost his leg in a mining accident and that drives his actions. Or if you really can't think of a reason for hiim to be a miner, just have him have a background in mining and never make a big deal about it, just have it be known what he does for a living.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't get this, is that person not a girl?

Transwoman, biologically male. The weird thing about this page is that she went to a fertility clinic and is mad the doctor misgendered her, which I guess meant he told her biological males can't get pregnant, which is true and something she should know beforehand. This page depicts a pretty forced reason for her to be sad.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-02-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Transwoman, biologically male. The weird thing about this page is that she went to a fertility clinic and is mad the doctor misgendered her, which I guess meant he told her biological males can't get pregnant, which is true and something she should know beforehand. This page depicts a pretty forced reason for her to be sad.

If you actually read the page, she said "we" as in her and her partner.
Jesus ****ing Christ on a pogo stick, you guys...

*TurtleWA* · 02-02-2018, 01:39 PM

I understood it as the doctor called she a he and didn’t apologize for the mistake. Also she has a female partner that accompanied her to the doctor to see about options for having a baby. The female partner to get pregnant that is. How far off am I?

*neatoman* · 02-02-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

If you actually read the page, she said "we" as in her and her partner.
Jesus ****ing Christ on a pogo stick, you guys...

Fine, whatever.

JH24 · 02-02-2018, 02:14 PM

I wouldn't mind, but it should not be shoehorned in simply for the sake of representation.

It should feel like a part of the story as the series progresses. Like for example one of the turtles slowly realizing he has feelings for Casey instead of April or something. Or vice versa.

Navin Johnson · 02-02-2018, 02:35 PM

If Andrew is trying to give us a sneak preview about what to anticipate in his next book, I think I'll pass.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-02-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JH24

I wouldn't mind, but it should not be shoehorned in simply for the sake of representation.

It should feel like a part of the story as the series progresses. Like for example one of the turtles slowly realizing he has feelings for Casey instead of April or something. Or vice versa.

Well that would probably get the fans off crapping on the RotTMNT designs.

*TurtleWA* · 02-02-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Navin Johnson

If Andrew is trying to give us a sneak preview about what to anticipate in his next book, I think I'll pass.

Living under or above a laundromat bar could work. Maybe.

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-02-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleWA

Living under or above a laundromat bar could work. Maybe.

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

*CyberCubed* · 02-02-2018, 03:17 PM

what is the name of that particular Batgirl comic issue? i want to read the whole thing.

*TurtleWA* · 02-02-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

Yeah as long as you don’t get a drink spilled on your freshly cleaned clothes. lol

*IndigoErth* · 02-02-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Weapons@theready

What if the back story between Saki and Yoshi is that they were secret lovers and Yoshi betrayed Saki by hooking up with Tang Shen. Saki then has Yoshi kicked out of the Foot by revealing to the other members that Yoshi was sexually harassing him.

Well there's an interesting twist. lol

Then the next series after that has Tang Shen cheated on within that triangle and gets revenge on the guys... a little too hard. Flees to NYC and becomes the Turtles' sensei/mom.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-02-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

That would be super annoying. A million washers and dryers running, competing with presumably loud music to drown it out? Count me out.

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JH24 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 470	I wouldn't mind, but it should not be shoehorned in simply for the sake of representation. It should feel like a part of the story as the series progresses. Like for example one of the turtles slowly realizing he has feelings for Casey instead of April or something. Or vice versa. Last edited by JH24; 02-02-2018 at 02:27 PM.

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Navin Johnson Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 544	If Andrew is trying to give us a sneak preview about what to anticipate in his next book, I think I'll pass. __________________ Lord loves a workin' man

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TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	I understood it as the doctor called she a he and didn’t apologize for the mistake. Also she has a female partner that accompanied her to the doctor to see about options for having a baby. The female partner to get pregnant that is. How far off am I?

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	what is the name of that particular Batgirl comic issue? i want to read the whole thing.