Your religious views and positions on matters such as God and the meaning of life? - Page 11

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-05-2018, 12:13 PM

*Andrew NDB* · 02-05-2018, 01:18 PM

I'm pretty much your textbook "Agnostic."

You have some proof of God one day and want to show me? Hey, I'd love to see it. I'm open to it. Until then? Yeah, no way.

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-05-2018, 01:38 PM

I really hate when someone claims to have proof of god and you ask to see it and they're like "Just look at the sunrise. A newborn baby. Ice cream. That's all the proof you need"

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 02-05-2018, 01:50 PM

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I really hate when someone claims to have proof of god and you ask to see it and they're like "Just look at the sunrise. A newborn baby. Ice cream. That's all the proof you need"

I'm strongly religious but I strongly dislike that "arguement" as well. Might as well just be used for anything else.

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-05-2018, 01:57 PM

I am atheist I think Religion is stupid and away not to take responsibility for your actions.

God is like the Snyder Cut of Justice League he doesn't exist

*Andrew NDB* · 02-05-2018, 02:03 PM

"I want proof that God exists."

"Do you need proof that the wind exists?"

"What?"

"Well, you can't see the wind. But it's there!"

"I don't see how this is -- "

"Wind is just like God! You can't see him, but he's there and you can feel him!"

Blah blah.

~~AquaParade~~ · 02-05-2018, 02:08 PM

I'm always surprised by how sure of themselves some people are when it comes to discussions over reality/religion/god. I feel like there is so much unexplained **** going on right now, that nearly anything is possible.

Just the fact that we are here and alive is completely bonkers when you focus on it. It's easy to wonder "what the hell is even going on, right now?". So with that, I try and keep a pretty open mind.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-05-2018, 02:14 PM

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I'm always surprised by how sure of themselves some people are when it comes to discussions over reality/religion/god. I feel like there is so much unexplained **** going on right now, that nearly anything is possible.

Examples, please.

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Just the fact that we are here and alive is completely bonkers when you focus on it.

Nothing crazy about it.
Billions of years ago, life has appeared in the substrate of Earth....yada, yada, yada....humans.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 02-05-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I'm always surprised by how sure of themselves some people are when it comes to discussions over reality/religion/god. I feel like there is so much unexplained **** going on right now, that nearly anything is possible.

Just the fact that we are here and alive is completely bonkers when you focus on it. It's easy to wonder "what the hell is even going on, right now?". So with that, I try and keep a pretty open mind.

Everyone believes in some form of absolute truth, whether it be for example that Christianity or Islam is the one true religion etc.

Even people who don't believe in absolute truth, believe that absolutely so there is always some degree of certainty atleast. It is the foundation to everything.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-05-2018, 02:22 PM

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Even people who don't believe in absolute truth, believe that absolutely so there is always some degree of certainty atleast.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 02-05-2018, 02:24 PM

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How else would you describe it?

Either someone absolutely believes there is no absolute truth, thus a paradox or is uncertain about it, thus there always being a possibility.

*TurtleWA* · 02-05-2018, 03:33 PM

The meaning of life is TMNT. The forum is my church. My family also makes my life meaningful. I suppose a God could exist. I like to be open to possibilities. With or without evidence.

*IndigoErth* · 02-05-2018, 05:13 PM

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Not to mention all the metals and minerals and things within living things like us that are technically star dust and existed before us; eventually to recycle into other things. (Even if it takes future destruction of a grave, or at most a black hole destroying the planet eons from now, because we decided to lock that material in an underground vault.)

Are we the first owners of that star dust, or was it owned by something else or some other world previously? Have those bits of us already existed in another solar system, or its star, before it came to an end?

The endless possibilities are, to me, far more awe inspiring than any concept of a deity...

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The meaning of life is TMNT.

Heck, maybe somewhere people a lot like them actually exist. Though sadly I wouldn't be expecting the actual TMNT.

Or... who knows. Alternate parallel universes and all. But maybe they're just four regular guys who are huge fans of a group of mutant ape-like ninjas that look a lot like us...

I'd like to think that if there was some 'afterlife' kind of thing, then it could pretty much whatever you want. Who isn't going to want those guys in it?

Or hell, I've considered that, for that matter, a "heaven" type place would actually be some interdimensional meeting place between parallel universes. If they were out there somewhere, then I'd look forward to meeting someday. lol If only.

*Coola Yagami* · 02-05-2018, 05:51 PM

I kinda like to think if demons and ghosts exist, it kinda means God has to. Why would the bad stuff exist and not the good?

~~AquaParade~~ · 02-05-2018, 05:58 PM

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Examples, please.

Nothing crazy about it.
Billions of years ago, life has appeared in the substrate of Earth....yada, yada, yada....humans.

I'm not sure how to articulate my view in a totally clear way...

I guess what I'm trying to say is there is so much mystery surrounding our very existence, that to me it seems foreign when people are so sure of their beleifs, one way or another.

Obviously it's not an attack one anyone. In fact, I sort of admire the strength of conviction. I think that's a powerful thing.

I'd never doubt those scientific explanations, and they are interesting and important as hell...but they don't necessarily solve the "greater mytery" of life for me. It doesn't explain away the confusion of how we are here.

Some would say scientific explanation "explains the 'how' but not the 'why' "

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-05-2018, 06:03 PM

Demons and ghosts are not neccessarily "bad" though. Many cultures have both "good" and "bad" spirots or demons, and some can even be both, depending on the situation. Japanese oni and Celtic sidhe folk are among these. Some are viscious and spiteful, others are helpful. The concept of a demon has changed depending on the culture and religious beliefs throughout time.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 02-05-2018, 06:03 PM

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I kinda like to think if demons and ghosts exist, it kinda means God has to. Why would the bad stuff exist and not the good?

From what I've seen, the views regarding demons/ghosts in regards to their relation to God is mixed.

Believers in the Abrahamic faiths usually see demons as evil counterparts to Archangels, but don't believe in ghosts of dead people being able to wander our world, instead being confined to Purgatory or proceeding into the Afterlife.

On the other hand, there are people who believe that the ghosts of dead people wander this world but it is entirely possible they lack a belief in God altogether.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-05-2018, 06:41 PM

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Some would say scientific explanation "explains the 'how' but not the 'why' "

There is no "why".
Your existence or existence of any other people have no any reason or meaning whatsoever. You exist just to procreate.
As for any other reasons - you choose them for yourself.

As for existence of life - it's just because systems become more complicated. It's natural order of things. A system in itself, with no reason or start.

*TurtleWA* · 02-05-2018, 07:41 PM

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I've considered that, for that matter, a "heaven" type place would actually be some interdimensional meeting place between parallel universes. If they were out there somewhere, then I'd look forward to meeting someday. lol If only.

If I’m understanding you correctly that is a cool thought/concept. That all universes or dimensions (not sure about wording) share the same heaven. So in heaven you could meet other types of beings. Aliens and mutant turtles and whatever could exist in another world.

~~Leonardo_thebest~~ · 02-05-2018, 07:47 PM

Wow. Didn't expect both Sumac and I to agree.
You can put me down in the non-believer group as well.

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02-05-2018, 01:18 PM	#202
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	I'm pretty much your textbook "Agnostic." You have some proof of God one day and want to show me? Hey, I'd love to see it. I'm open to it. Until then? Yeah, no way. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-05-2018, 01:38 PM	#203
ProphetofGanja Dub Professor Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dub Side of the Moon Posts: 3,497	I really hate when someone claims to have proof of god and you ask to see it and they're like "Just look at the sunrise. A newborn baby. Ice cream. That's all the proof you need" __________________ "We've been frantically trying to reach you, Dude."

02-05-2018, 01:57 PM	#205
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,191	I am atheist I think Religion is stupid and away not to take responsibility for your actions. God is like the Snyder Cut of Justice League he doesn't exist __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

02-05-2018, 02:03 PM	#206
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	"I want proof that God exists." "Do you need proof that the wind exists?" "What?" "Well, you can't see the wind. But it's there!" "I don't see how this is -- " "Wind is just like God! You can't see him, but he's there and you can feel him!" Blah blah. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-05-2018, 02:08 PM	#207
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I'm always surprised by how sure of themselves some people are when it comes to discussions over reality/religion/god. I feel like there is so much unexplained **** going on right now, that nearly anything is possible. Just the fact that we are here and alive is completely bonkers when you focus on it. It's easy to wonder "what the hell is even going on, right now?". So with that, I try and keep a pretty open mind.

02-05-2018, 03:33 PM	#212
TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	The meaning of life is TMNT. The forum is my church. My family also makes my life meaningful. I suppose a God could exist. I like to be open to possibilities. With or without evidence.

02-05-2018, 05:51 PM	#214
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,711	I kinda like to think if demons and ghosts exist, it kinda means God has to. Why would the bad stuff exist and not the good? __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

02-05-2018, 06:03 PM	#216
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Demons and ghosts are not neccessarily "bad" though. Many cultures have both "good" and "bad" spirots or demons, and some can even be both, depending on the situation. Japanese oni and Celtic sidhe folk are among these. Some are viscious and spiteful, others are helpful. The concept of a demon has changed depending on the culture and religious beliefs throughout time. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

02-05-2018, 07:47 PM	#220
~~Leonardo_thebest~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 197	Wow. Didn't expect both Sumac and I to agree. You can put me down in the non-believer group as well.