Avengers: Infinity Wars To Be Retitled

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I feel like Ant-Man and the Wasp takes place right after Infinity War and will deal with it more than anyone expects.

No, as far as I’m aware, it takes place a few weeks after Civil War.

[Ninjinister]

I think this is the first "longer" movie where it didn't feel like it to me. Usually in things lasting over 2 hours, even in ones I really like, I'm thinking "well sh*t, is it almost over yet?" partway through. But not here, not by a long shot, and I was even sitting down in the theater a good half hour before the previews even started.

[Vicky82]

Yeah Ant Man and Wasp takes place after Civil War

https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-and-the-...rvel-timeline/

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Yeah Ant Man and Wasp takes place after Civil War

https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-and-the-...rvel-timeline/

Nowhere in that article does it cement or even suggest that.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Nowhere in that article does it cement or even suggest that.

Try this one then

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/ant...-mcu-timeline/

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Try this one then

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/ant...-mcu-timeline/

Same thing. They're just interpreting the trailer footage. No statements old or new about when it is set from anyone at Marvel at all.

[Vicky82]

Well when it comes out in July then we will know who's right. I would even put a bet on it that it happens between Civil War and Infinity War Or even during Infinity War. It's certainly not happening after infinity War.

And there are rumours that

Spoiler:

Family members of Ant Man and Wasp will be turning into dust due to the events happening in Infinity War, maybe a end of credit scene.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well, thinking about it, it isn't the first time MCU films have been released in non-chronological order.

Black Panther came out after Thor Ragnarok, Doctor Strange comes out after Civil War and Age of Ultron...

But I do feel pretty confident that Ant-Man and the Wasp will happen before Infinity War, not too long after Civil War. And the mid-credits or end-credits scene(s) will be Infinity War-related. And obviously, the same was confirmed for Captain Marvel, which is taking place in the '90's. Or was it the '80's?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

But I do feel pretty confident that Ant-Man and the Wasp will happen before Infinity War, not too long after Civil War.

I dunno... if it was before or during, I'm pretty sure they'd end it with Ant-Man or the Wasp becoming dusted... yet we know both Ant-Man and the Wasp have been on set a lot filming a lot of Avengers 4.

Which makes me think Ant-Man & the Wasp have already survived the lottery at the end of Infinity War.

And the mid-credits or end-credits scene(s) will be Infinity War-related. And obviously, the same was confirmed for Captain Marvel, which is taking place in the '90's. Or was it the '80's?

90s.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I dunno... if it was before or during, I'm pretty sure they'd end it with Ant-Man or the Wasp becoming dusted... yet we know both Ant-Man and the Wasp have been on set a lot filming a lot of Avengers 4.

Which makes me think Ant-Man & the Wasp have already survived the lottery at the end of Infinity War.

50% of humanity being wiped out doesn't mean either Ant-Man or Wasp would have to win the "Sacrificed for Thanos!" lottery: Hank, Janet, Cassie, the ex-wife... plenty of people to ash and have their loss motivate the insect duo.

Heck, if Hope loses her father, who sacrifices himself to save Janet... only for Janet to turn to Infinity Ash a few months later... that's REALLY gonna send Hope over the edge.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Saw it yesterday. Really enjoyed it! Big movie with lots going on, but it never felt rushed or crowded. Each group of heroes had their own mission/arc, and they never completely converged with everyone. A nice blocking of each "team" and their stories.

Spoiler:

Now for my gripes. Why didn't Thor aim for the arm or head? It seems the arm would be the most logical target- no hand, no guantlet!

Or Gamora- why didn't she try to throw/push HIM off the friggin cliff? Seems she missed an opportunity there to end it quickly, without Nebula in jeopardy. Or at the least, throw HERSELF off. Would have stopped him either way. Or maybe throw Red Skull off? The sacrifice only works if it is someone close.....

Another minor quibble is how Strange never thought to use the Eye in that fight, when he had no qualms about using it against Dormammu. Could he not have used it to pull the gems from the gauntlet "out of time"? Or phase himself outside time to keep it away from Thanos? I mean, he could have easily taken it to literally ANY time in the past/future to deny Thanos ever finding him.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Saw it yesterday. Really enjoyed it! Big movie with lots going on, but it never felt rushed or crowded. Each group of heroes had their own mission/arc, and they never completely converged with everyone. A nice blocking of each "team" and their stories.

Spoiler:

Now for my gripes. Why didn't Thor aim for the arm or head? It seems the arm would be the most logical target- no hand, no guantlet!

Or Gamora- why didn't she try to throw/push HIM off the friggin cliff? Seems she missed an opportunity there to end it quickly, without Nebula in jeopardy. Or at the least, throw HERSELF off. Would have stopped him either way. Or maybe throw Red Skull off? The sacrifice only works if it is someone close.....

Another minor quibble is how Strange never thought to use the Eye in that fight, when he had no qualms about using it against Dormammu. Could he not have used it to pull the gems from the gauntlet "out of time"? Or phase himself outside time to keep it away from Thanos? I mean, he could have easily taken it to literally ANY time in the past/future to deny Thanos ever finding him.

That one person you mentioned wouldn't have worked cause neither Gamora or Thanos cared for him. I mean, they just met him after all.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

That one person you mentioned wouldn't have worked cause neither Gamora or Thanos cared for him. I mean, they just met him after all.

That was kind of my point.

Spoiler:

If she had flung herself over, pushe Thanos off, or even Grabbed Red Skull and thrown him off, the stone's price could not be met. Thanos would never get his hands on it.

I was thinking outside the box on that one. The answer/clue was right there in front of her, but she never even thought of it.

[Andrew NDB]

For anyone not watching "Agents of SHIELD," you oughta. The last episode is simultaneous with the events of "Infinity War"... Thanos' assault on Earth is happening right now while the Kree and other members of the Confederacy are ready to capitalize on the outcome.

[ranger_scout]

I went back to see it a second time on Saturday with my dad, who had not seen it yet. I didn't like Mark Ruffalo's performance. It was too hammy and Bruce Banner didn't come across as smart as he usually does.

Spoiler:

I actually didn't realize that Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange were two of the heroes who suddenly disappeared. I was so shocked by what was going on during my first viewings that I didn't notice their disappearances.

[raph27]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

That was kind of my point.

Spoiler:

If she had flung herself over, pushe Thanos off, or even Grabbed Red Skull and thrown him off, the stone's price could not be met. Thanos would never get his hands on it.

I was thinking outside the box on that one. The answer/clue was right there in front of her, but she never even thought of it.

Pretty sure she did...

Spoiler:

Just saw it again last week. She tries to kill herself with the balanced knife, making sure there wouldn't be a sacrifice, but Thanos made it disappear so he could do it.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

That was kind of my point.

Spoiler:

If she had flung herself over, pushe Thanos off, or even Grabbed Red Skull and thrown him off, the stone's price could not be met. Thanos would never get his hands on it.

I was thinking outside the box on that one. The answer/clue was right there in front of her, but she never even thought of it.

..... no because even is said person was thrown off, it doesn't stop Thanos from throwing that other person off and get the same result.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Spoiler:

There again, the point was there WERE other options for her to attempt. The knife was pretty obviously not going to work, for the same reason Quill's attempt to shoot her didn't. Thanos and his bubble-fixation. (Why bubbles? Pretty sure that says something about him, but not sure exactly WHAT....) The idea here is that even if suicide by dagger isn't an option, there is still cliff-jumping, because he can't just bend reality to stop that without screwing over his own sacrifice attempt. It's not like he could turn HER into bubbles, or cause something to break her fall, because then he could not sacrifice her himself. (She would either not fall, or end up at the bottom without dying.) He could at best reverse time, but then she could just keep doing it over again like Strange did with Dormammu. And jumping off HERSELF defeats his purpose of THROWING her off, as does throwing someone else (preferably HIM.).

Tossing the other person present would maybe not do anything, but once ONE person is "sacrificed" it might actually negate any second attempt as well. Assuming the stone rejects it, but doesn't allow a second attempt. No one said they could try again if it failed.... I'm treating that option as a "failed" sacrifice that simply causes the stone to go "Nope, you lose! No soul stone for you!" And shut down the whole thing.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Spoiler:

There again, the point was there WERE other options for her to attempt. The knife was pretty obviously not going to work, for the same reason Quill's attempt to shoot her didn't. Thanos and his bubble-fixation. (Why bubbles? Pretty sure that says something about him, but not sure exactly WHAT....) The idea here is that even if suicide by dagger isn't an option, there is still cliff-jumping, because he can't just bend reality to stop that without screwing over his own sacrifice attempt. It's not like he could turn HER into bubbles, or cause something to break her fall, because then he could not sacrifice her himself. (She would either not fall, or end up at the bottom without dying.) He could at best reverse time, but then she could just keep doing it over again like Strange did with Dormammu. And jumping off HERSELF defeats his purpose of THROWING her off, as does throwing someone else (preferably HIM.).

Tossing the other person present would maybe not do anything, but once ONE person is "sacrificed" it might actually negate any second attempt as well. Assuming the stone rejects it, but doesn't allow a second attempt. No one said they could try again if it failed.... I'm treating that option as a "failed" sacrifice that simply causes the stone to go "Nope, you lose! No soul stone for you!" And shut down the whole thing.

With all the Stones he had in his possession at the time, I'm pretty sure there was no way Gamora could have avoided being sacrificed by Thanos. Like deadass sure

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

With all the Stones he had in his possession at the time, I'm pretty sure there was no way Gamora could have avoided being sacrificed by Thanos. Like deadass sure

Couldn't she have just run off the edge and killed herself before he could push/throw her? Then it wouldn't count as a sacrifice and Thanos couldn't get the stone.