New She-Ra Series Coming From Dreamworks

[NinjaPug]

Went to a He-Man message board to see the reaction to the artwork released today only to find Vegita over there ranting and raving like he does here.

[Cure]

Are you surprised?

[Candy Kappa]

What a shocker

[Allio]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I wouldn't go so far as to say masculine, but I would say that OG She-Ra was awfully performative feminine.
Like...Beaton's "Strong Female Characters."

I guess I've always had a weird sense of "masculine," I guess it goes back all the way to Xena.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Only if you can't see difference between a woman and a man.

Face Blind...so kind of yeah. or at least it doesn't register with me unless I really, REALLY think about it.

[Cure]

Are you admitting that your whole life revolves around message boards?!

[Allio]

It’s really hard for me to put a finger on the artstyle presented. Perhaps it’s because I’m comparing it to Voltron? I know, unfair comparison. I suppose I see it as if Voltron is an “Shounen” anime of sorts it seems like She-ra is trying to be a shoujo style with liberties I suppose…

Character designs I’m not really feeling it. It’s an asthtics thing, it isn’t always for everyone. Like with Kamen Rider you have to wait until you see it all move in style.

As for the style of She-Ra? I’m not feeling it. It feels a little too magical girl for me. And not like something like Mysticons where it’s western magical girl but a magical girl…like if you take off the shoulder pads and cape it looks like an outfit straight from Sailor Moon or Precure. Not exactly something that is a western show…I suppose that is what I’m getting at.

I think a piece of it might be the coloring…it’s a little grading on my eyes…

I don't know. I think I'll have to wait to see it all in motion.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Spoiler:

https://orig00.deviantart.net/b421/f...franchesco.jpg

Dude, I wish normal women looked like this.

So? There is still a difference between figureless teenager and a mature woman.

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Like I said in an earlier post, I can't stand 2012 TMNT or Rise, I think the designs are ugly as sin...and I have no desire to doink the TMNT.

Except in this case we are talking about female lead character, not a four mutant turtles.

[snake]

I think she looks pretty hot tbh. But in a “are traps gay?” kinda way.

[Spike Spiegel]

Spoiler:

So I'm actually a filthy millennial whose only real exposure to the Masters of the Universe mythology came from the short lived Mike Young Productions He-Man show from 2002, where Cam Clarke was the voice of Prince Adam/He-Man. I remember reading that if that show had continued, they would have introduced the She-Ra character.

For those who were there in the 80s, was there a lot of difference between the He-Man and She-Ra shows? Did she have any particular special lore? What are the expectations people have for a revival?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Spoiler:

http://www.hemanworld.com/wp-content...a-Loughran.jpg

So I'm actually a filthy millennial whose only real exposure to the Masters of the Universe mythology came from the short lived Mike Young Productions He-Man show from 2002, where Cam Clarke was the voice of Prince Adam/He-Man. I remember reading that if that show had continued, they would have introduced the She-Ra character.

For those who were there in the 80s, was there a lot of difference between the He-Man and She-Ra shows? Did she have any particular special lore? What are the expectations people have for a revival?

Hell yeah it had a lot of lore.

The premise was also kinda different since Hordak was more accomplished than Skeletor. In He-Man, Skeletor was trying to conquer the Royal Palace, or gain the secrets of Grayskull. Trying.

On She-Ra however, Hordak has conquered most of Etheria, and She-Ra leads a small rebellion in an attempt to hopefully overthrow him and save their world.

Both shows were very similar in tone and characters. Both shows had that annoying 'cute' sidekick character and incompetent henchmen.

Honestly She-Ra was kinda/sorta He-Man season 3. Since He-Man was done, all the newer toy characters would only be able to appear on She-Ra. And the episodes where Skeletor and Hordak would face off were always the best.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I love how you immediately dismiss all criticism as nerds crying that she is "not sexy enough to fap".
This type of deflection is intellectually shallow and pathetic. Please, figure out something better. One can have concerns about art style without it being linked to the desire to have sex with fictional characters.

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

[SPOILER]Like I said in an earlier post, I can't stand 2012 TMNT or Rise, I think the designs are ugly as sin...and I have no desire to doink the TMNT.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Except in this case we are talking about female lead character, not a four mutant turtles.

I love how you call Space Cowboy shallow and pathetic for thinking most of the criticism for She Ra's designs is because people don't want to bone her but in the next reply you insinuate that people should have the desire to boink female lead characters

On Topic, I like the design but this is coming from a guy who follows a blog called "animemangamusclegirls", its a bit boyish sure but I don't mind it, I mean modern western animation isn't short on feminine main characters so a little bit of variety is welcome.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I love how you immediately dismiss all criticism as nerds crying that she is "not sexy enough to fap".
This type of deflection is intellectually shallow and pathetic. Please, figure out something better. One can have concerns about art style without it being linked to the desire to have sex with fictional characters.

that's twitter defending man ra in a nutshell

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

On Topic, I like the design but this is coming from a guy who follows a blog called "animemangamusclegirls", its a bit boyish sure but I don't mind it, I mean modern western animation isn't short on feminine main characters so a little bit of variety is welcome.

Spoiler:

I have similar tastes; Jasper (Steven Universe), Zarya and Brigitte (Overwatch) and Susan Strong (Adventure Time) come to mind when I think of recent popular characters with that kind of aesthetic. It was also what attracted me to Legend of Korra. In the 2018 Avengers comic, Marvel's pushing a larger, more imposing version of She-Hulk (albeit without her original personality) right now, and that's pretty neat, too.

Compared to those, I'd say the new She-Ra design is rather middle of the road, to be honest.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Spoiler:

https://orig00.deviantart.net/d304/f...by_iskafiy.jpg

I have similar tastes; Jasper (Steven Universe), Zarya and Brigitte (Overwatch) and Susan Strong (Adventure Time) come to mind when I think of recent popular characters with that kind of aesthetic. It was also what attracted me to Legend of Korra. In the 2018 Avengers comic, Marvel's pushing a larger, more imposing version of She-Hulk (albeit without her original personality) right now, and that's pretty neat, too.

Compared to those, I'd say the new She-Ra design is rather middle of the road, to be honest.

I also gotta give a shout out to the Scotsman daughters, especially Flora

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

that's twitter defending man ra in a nutshell

I mean to be fair there are a lot of people who think She ra's design is bad because its not their fap material.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by snake

I think she looks pretty hot tbh. But in a “are traps gay?” kinda way.

You won't be considered "progressive" any time soon.

Originally Posted by PApagreg

I love how you call Space Cowboy shallow and pathetic for thinking most of the criticism for She Ra's designs is because people don't want to bone her but in the next reply you insinuate that people should have the desire to boink female lead characters

No, my dear, I "insinuate", that there is a difference between four mutant turtles and a female heroine.

No-one will suspect that TMNT designs are criticized because they are not sexy enough and no-one will deflect criticism directed at them as: "WHAAA!! HORUBLE MANCHILDREN EERYWHURE!"
Context is not a just a complicated word.

Originally Posted by PApagreg

I mean to be fair there are a lot of people who think She ra's design is bad because its not their fap material.

And it somehow makes it immune to all criticism, right?
Like Rey being a woman-lead in the big franchise makes her immune to all kind of criticism?

[ProactiveMan]

If you don’t like the design of this show, feel content in the fact that hundreds of two-bit journalists can feed their families tonight (or alcoholism) on yet another round of patronising articles that few people of consequence will read. Without your sourness and pedantry these poor individuals would have no way of paying back the money they borrowed buying their way into the crowded, degraded field that they pig-headedly decided to enter against all better judgement and advice from their friends and family (if any).

Here’s to you, you beautiful weirdos. Keep ‘em flying!

[Allio]

The worst part of this? There are just people on both sides of the argument are just provoking the other side. This isn't a situation where one side is going to be a winner or not. Just a bunch of dumbasses fanning the flames to get a rise out of another. Some people that are "fighting" aren't even in it for a purpose other then being a bitch to someone else.


The best course of action is that with time people will move on with their lives. The people that want to watch the show will watch the show and the ones that don't won't

Humans are really pitiful creatures

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Allio

Humans are really pitiful creatures

you are surprised, why?

trying to criticize the designs gets people trying to make you angry. imagine having so little a life that this is how you get your jollies.

I really do wish I could give up social media these days. nothing but 50% jerks.

[plastroncafe]

There's not liking the character design, and then there's not liking a character design by listing all of the ways in which She-Ra doesn't live up to their standards of femininity.

The former is a matter of taste, the latter creeps ever closer to My Anaconda Don't Want None territory.

I can see where someone might not be interested in the line work. That's one of the reasons why I've never watched the original Teen Titans cartoon, I just don't like the art style.

but when the dislike of the art style comes complete with a list of all of the ways in which this female character isn't feminine enough to a person's liking, that's just harder to defend as anything other than an attempt at Lemongrabbing one's way back to relevance.

Again, I highly doubt anyone on this board is the Target demographic for this television show. And I think a lot of the anger I'm seeing online, both here and elsewhere, stems from the fact that people who have lived their entire lives being the Target demographic can't handle the fact that their opinions don't actually matter anymore.
And they are butt mad about it.
29 minutes of ranting about a handful of stills from a cartoon we haven't even seen move yet?
Oof.

I will say this though, it's been really entertaining to see people list all of the ways they believe a proper female of the species should look and dress.
Really hammers home How Deeply ingrained male as default is for some folks.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

but when the dislike of the art style comes complete with a list of all of the ways in which this female character isn't feminine enough to a person's liking, that's just harder to defend as anything other than an attempt at Lemongrabbing one's way back to relevance.

My first impression was that she looks similar to some of the characters from the new Voltron or Avatar. Nothing about it smacks of laziness or incompetence. It's certainly more complex than the noodle figures in programs like Adventure Time, OK K.O., and Regular Show.

If the art style was exactly the same, but within the context of that same style, the character design had smaller eyes in relation to the head (more adult proportions), a wider waist-to-hip ratio, and a more distinct bustline, I don't think there would be nearly the same amount of complaints. It's awfully transparent IMHO. People think she should look like a Frank Cho drawing or something. For a children's cartoon aimed at American/Western audiences (as opposed to, say, anime), excessive fanservice is not really necessary.

I think OG She-Ra looked more distinctly feminine and adult, but that was a different time in the animation industry. Character designs are a lot simpler and more streamlined now. Times and trends change.