Young men giving up on marriage?

[Andrew NDB]

Seems understandable.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/yo...3Csx6ytdNSotSI

[Candy Kappa]

Good, weed out the weak.

[IndigoErth]

Those that don't want to with a view of "because women" probably are best staying single. Fine by me.


Wow, some of those other article links... What is with the addiction to controversial nonsense... Surprised we aren't instead talking about the one titled "Trump administration OKs contract renewal for ‘humanized mice’ from baby body parts".

[snake]

I know I’m not a part of the generation this article is targeting (milenials), but I personally want a wife and kids in the future. I need that kind of fulfilment and purpose in my life.


This place is host to a bunch of wicked edgy nihlists who still have a teenage mindset in their 30s/40s, so I get that a bunch of you will be going “f*ck yeah!”, but if that sort of person isn’t getting married, I think that’s a net positive for the future.

[CyberCubed]

I thought it was more that women are choosing not to get married or have kids because they're too focused on their careers now. This isn't like the old days where you got married by 22 and had a kid immediately.

Now people intentionally postpone the idea of married/kids till their early/mid 30's. Remember how back in the old days a woman was considered an, "old maid" if she didn't get married by 25? That seems so ridiculous nowadays, 25 is so young.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I thought it was more that women are choosing not to get married or have kids because they're too focused on their careers now. This isn't like the old days where you got married by 22 and had a kid immediately.

Now people intentionally postpone the idea of married/kids till their early/mid 30's. Remember how back in the old days a woman was considered an, "old maid" if she didn't get married by 25? That seems so ridiculous nowadays, 25 is so young.

Yeah, you make good points there.

I personally don't want to get married ever. I simply never liked a girl/woman enough to the point of wanting to marry her. I just can't picture myself as a married man with a family. It just doesn't fit me.

When I was younger, people used to tell me "oh, everyone says that when they're young but then change their minds later in their lives", but well, I'm 28 now, turning 29 later this year, and still haven't changed my mind a bit. And I doubt I'll be married in 3-4 years either. I'm not seeing anyone atm or care to look for a gf.

My brother is 36 years old and he is not married either. No idea what his stand on marriage is, but I can't picture him with a wife and kids either.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The purpose of marriage used to be sex and rearing children.

Nowdays, not so much.

Sex and child rearing are no longer limited to marriage, so obviously people give up on marriage in the first place.

[Andrew NDB]

Hey, I've been doing my part. Married twice now.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I thought it was more that women are choosing not to get married or have kids because they're too focused on their careers now. This isn't like the old days where you got married by 22 and had a kid immediately.

Now people intentionally postpone the idea of married/kids till their early/mid 30's. Remember how back in the old days a woman was considered an, "old maid" if she didn't get married by 25? That seems so ridiculous nowadays, 25 is so young.

A lot of people of course also end up postponing simply because education is expensive, life is expensive, and many people want to be financially ready and stable first. Which... unfortunately, with the world the way it is today, forces many people to push that back.

The time period of a young guy graduating high school and getting a minimum wage job to start that actually let him at least afford a home and the basics to support a young family are long gone. It's a good thing many women wanted to work and fought for the right to, considering most everyone needs to now to manage to get by.

[CyberCubed]

I was watching one of Steve Martin's 80's movies the other day and his daughter was getting married at like 20 and having a kid at 22 and they were already buying a huge house.

What kind of world is that to live in?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I was watching one of Steve Martin's 80's movies the other day and his daughter was getting married at like 20 and having a kid at 22 and they were already buying a huge house.

What kind of world is that to live in?

The world of cinema and tv.

Notice how in tv shows and movies a lot of characters are either quite well-off in life or seem to own quite large and nice houses and cars for the rather mundane jobs they have? Like Steve Carrell's character in 40 Year Old Virgin, for example. How could someone who worked at a store like that afford a nice house with a pool and a lot of rare action figures? Did he inherit a lot of it?

I feel like 80% of movie and tv show characters are either poor, affluent or filthy rich. I guess average middle class people don't make interesting enough characters in fiction...

[snake]

Boomerworld, where the Social Security checks flow freely and responsibility is gently nudged onto future generations. Hey, somebody’s gotta pay!

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Hey, I've been doing my part. Married twice now.

I'm shocked your hair hasn't turned completely silver. Once for me was plenty.

A lot of studies are showing that people are finally realizing that it's better to focus on career. You earn (and keep) a ton more money if you're single, and fewer outside distractions get in the way of "climbing the ladder".

That thing they call "romantic love" is a chemical attraction that fades with time, but the financial debt, the resentment, the arguments, and the "I'm gonna go back in time 15-20 years because I want to be mad at you Right Now" bullsh*t... that NEVER slows down or goes away.

Marriage is an institution that completely favors the woman - especially if/when it comes time to dissolve it - so I'm not shocked to realize that more and more men are getting smart and not wanting to be a "sucker fish". There's literally zero upside for any man to get married. It's a fool's game. This is encouraging news.

Now let's hear some news about rapidly declining birth rates, and we MIGHT just save this planet after all.

[IndigoErth]

Psh, and single women supposedly live longer, so there's that.

Spoiler:

But I'd still trade it for a guy who is equal parts best friend, lover, an sidekick in life.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Don't look at me, dudes. I did my part.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Psh, and single women supposedly live longer, so there's that.

Spoiler:

But I'd still trade it for a guy who is equal parts best friend, lover, an sidekick in life.

We're not sidekicks!
#youngjustice
Why hashtag? no clue

[Leo656]

Yeah, but women have that pesky "menopause" thing that comes out of nowhere and smashes guys in the face like a brick.

I can't tell you how many friends, family, and clients of mine have given me the same story: "My wife WAS my best friend... Until she hit menopause. Now she never stops telling me how much she wishes she never met me," etc. Nothing else changed, the wife just had too many Birthdays and now she's a lunatic. I've seen mousy types become violently abusive. It's a mess.

At least a woman knows that if she's been with the same guy for many years, he's essentially the same guy he always was, and barring any addiction issues will stay that way. A man has to forever be worried that one day, his "best friend" is going to smother him in his sleep for some flip remark he made a decade ago, because that's what her hormones say is a "reasonable" response.

What works in my favor is, my wife is already a lunatic and we already hate each other, so it kind of can't get much worse. But even all the older women I know who know us very well are warning me away from the situation. These are post-menopausal women, openly warning me, "You better make an escape plan. If it's like this and she's only in her 30s, in her 40s she might up and stab you. For no reason."

I'm very open to what these women have to say, having seen it all before. So yeah, nobody's perfect, but at least if a guy is an asshole OR a Nice Guy, he's most likely going to stay that way. With women you literally have no idea what to expect - although the mother is a safe guide. If the mother is crazy, then run, because most women turn into their mothers in their 40s or 50s even if they swear they won't. It's not a choice, they just end up like that.

Yeah, I don't know why anyone gets married. It's a drag. Get a dog and a cat and you're set.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Yeah, I don't know why anyone gets married. It's a drag. Get a dog and a cat and you're set.

That's called bestiality, you filthy pervert.

[Leo656]

I should'a seen that one coming.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I should'a seen that one coming.

You really should've.