Sonic the Hedgehog Live-Action/CGI Movie Targeting 2020 Release Date

[Leo656]

I agree. I think that like the Chipmunk movies, it will be terrible BUT still get high marks from the intended audience which does not know any better. It will sell a lot of toys and altogether do alright, mostly based on brand recognition. Like just about every other Sonic product. "It's not great, but... it's Sonic." That'll be enough. I don't think it'll do HUGE business but I think it'll do okay.

Fans and critics will be spitting fire but anyone under 10 will be too bedazzled by the idea of Sonic in a movie to care about anything else, and they'll probably see it twice.

The more I think about it, the more I think that it actually has a decent shot to be the most financially-successful video game movie so far, especially with the merchandising.

Huh.

Hang on a second, I'm gonna go spin some Monkees records to remind myself that there were once decent and good things in this world before it all went to sh*t.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I think many people will lighten up after seeing the trailer, just like with the Detective Pikachu film. I highly doubt this is going to be the next Emoji Movie or something.

Of course I could be completely wrong.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I think many people will lighten up after seeing the trailer, just like with the Detective Pikachu film. I highly doubt this is going to be the next Emoji Movie or something.

Of course I could be completely wrong.

A lot of people who liked the DP games had faith in th movie from the get go as they recognised it as a unique and creative risk and appreciated the gamble. Sonic fans are amongst the most notoriously hard-to-please groups out there and haven't been satisfied by anything in the franchise for years unless it's by Ian Flynn

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

A lot of people who liked the DP games had faith in th movie from the get go as they recognised it as a unique and creative risk and appreciated the gamble. Sonic fans are amongst the most notoriously hard-to-please groups out there and haven't been satisfied by anything in the franchise for years unless it's by Ian Flynn

Oh yes, you are right about that. Nothing will ever satisfy most hardcore Sonic fans.

I meant casuals in general. I could see them being more pleased with the film.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

A lot of people who liked the DP games had faith in th movie from the get go as they recognised it as a unique and creative risk and appreciated the gamble. Sonic fans are amongst the most notoriously hard-to-please groups out there and haven't been satisfied by anything in the franchise for years unless it's by Ian Flynn

The same can be said about TMNT fans. We been through this before with the recent movies and now Rise. The fanbase is split. those who like it. and those who do not. There are a growing number of fans that like these new designs. The ones that are complaining. Are complaining about minor details. Such as the eyes for example. Everything is about the eyes as well as the lack of gloves and different shoes. but everything else looks fine to me.

Sure Movie Sonic isn't wearing gloves and his hands are white. Big deal. What if his hands are actually white if he had taken off the gloves. Has anyone ever thought about that? This whole thing is silly to me. They are making an RL version of a cartoon character. and these fans want Sonic to look like the cartoon.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

everything always looks fine to me.

Fixed that for ya boss.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by drgon78

You mean it will not be well received by the fandom, but it is clearly aimed at kids so it will more then likely make money.

Unless they hate it too, then it will fail.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I agree. I think that like the Chipmunk movies, it will be terrible BUT still get high marks from the intended audience which does not know any better. It will sell a lot of toys and altogether do alright, mostly based on brand recognition. Like just about every other Sonic product. "It's not great, but... it's Sonic." That'll be enough. I don't think it'll do HUGE business but I think it'll do okay.

Fans and critics will be spitting fire but anyone under 10 will be too bedazzled by the idea of Sonic in a movie to care about anything else, and they'll probably see it twice.

The more I think about it, the more I think that it actually has a decent shot to be the most financially-successful video game movie so far, especially with the merchandising.

Huh.

Hang on a second, I'm gonna go spin some Monkees records to remind myself that there were once decent and good things in this world before it all went to sh*t.

It will never be "okay".
It will never be "popular" with kids.
It will never even make a "decent" amount of money.

It will be a destined financial failure.
It will probably be the lowest grossing video game film of all time.

So, don't be too optimistic. (*Besides, Detective P. already has the that in the bag. *)

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I think many people will lighten up after seeing the trailer, just like with the Detective Pikachu film. I highly doubt this is going to be the next Emoji Movie or something.

Of course I could be completely wrong.

You are wrong; It's general reception will be worse than that - something that not even the Emoji Movie will ever accomplish.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Oh yes, you are right about that. Nothing will ever satisfy most hardcore Sonic fans.

I meant casuals in general. I could see them being more pleased with the film.

Not even casual movie goers will want to view ... whatever the heck the producers/executives/etc. are planning.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The same can be said about TMNT fans. We been through this before with the recent movies and now Rise. The fanbase is split. those who like it. and those who do not. There are a growing number of fans that like these new designs.

I think most Rise sympathizers defend the designs on principal rather than sincerely like them. I don't doubt there's a few that like the designs but does either group like them enough that if a Paramount exec came on here and gave them a choice between a live action movie with designs based on Rise or designs based on the 90s movies they'd choose the former?

This whole thing is silly to me. They are making an RL version of a cartoon character. and these fans want Sonic to look like the cartoon.

This is just a weird halfway between a cartoon look and a "realistic" one.

I appreciate that some people feel he can't just be cartoon in a real word setting (even though there's precedence for that in the 3D games) so went for a edgy, realistic look and panicked halfway and gave him a cartoon face.

People aren't going to like this comparison but Detective Pikachu gets it. The classic cartoon designs but with some texture to make them look tangible.

This isn't the worst thing in the world but you can see why people think think it's weird.

[Papenbrook]

Exactly, Galactus.

That's exactly why it'll flop. They ( the director(s), producers, and executives ) want to have their cake and eat it too.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Unless they hate it too, then it will fail.

It will never be "okay".
It will never be "popular" with kids.
It will never even make a "decent" amount of money.

It will be a destined financial failure.
It will probably be the lowest grossing video game film of all time.

So, don't be too optimistic. (*Besides, Detective P. already has the that in the bag. *)


You are wrong; It's general reception will be worse than that - something that not even the Emoji Movie will ever accomplish.


Not even casual movie goers will want to view ... whatever the heck the producers/executives/etc. are planning.

I'd honestly love it if that were true, but I've seen what people are willing to swallow, especially kids. Nobody's standards are very high. It won't make "Avengers" money but it will make some.

...And I swear, the last time anyone used "optimist" in a sentence I was also part of, it was, like, "...And then he burned that guy alive behind the Sizzler for being an optimist, because it 'wasn't logical' or some sh*t like that." You're pretty funny.

[Papenbrook]

Oh, you're truer than you think. Sonic is not a well-known nor received property, and most people aren't gullible enough to give money to a franchise they don't know/ have interest in. ( *Plus, VdG films tend to under-perform/ have low expectations set for them.* )

For this particular film, it's like playing "Follow The Train-Wreck".

[Leo656]

But little kids like Sonic a lot, generally. And kids are the movie's audience. And kids have very low standards and poor taste. And they like to drag their parents with them to see bad movies like two or three times.

It's not at all hard to figure out how the movie could be terrible but still end at least making its budget back. Those lousy Chipmunks movies made money, and this is essentially like, a movie to fill that "void" with the audience.

I'm definitely not "rooting" for this movie, because I think the whole thing is a bad idea, but I'm just calling what I see. Like TMNT, it can be bad but still coast to a decent number based on brand recognition.

But hey, if it tanks, great. Maybe people will stop trying to make video game movies a "thing".

[snake]

You’re borderline special if you think this movie won’t make money on name recognition only. Some properties are literally too big to fail, especially if it has kid appeal- which Sonic has loads of.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by Leo656

But little kids like Sonic a lot, generally. And kids are the movie's audience. And kids have very low standards and poor taste. And they like to drag their parents with them to see bad movies like two or three times.

It's not at all hard to figure out how the movie could be terrible but still end at least making its budget back. Those lousy Chipmunks movies made money, and this is essentially like, a movie to fill that "void" with the audience.

I'm definitely not "rooting" for this movie, because I think the whole thing is a bad idea, but I'm just calling what I see. Like TMNT, it can be bad but still coast to a decent number based on brand recognition.

But hey, if it tanks, great. Maybe people will stop trying to make video game movies a "thing".

But does the general public know who Sonic is? He doesn't exactly have a, say, Mario™/Pokémon™-level brand recognition. Plus, the new design might drive children/ teens away from it. ( It certainly drove the core fan-base away. ) So, I can't really fathom why anyone in particular would be excited for this film.

I really don't think children are gullible enough to fall for the "funny animal film(s)" shtick over and over again. Then again, I really don't want to think about the opposite.

But one thing's for certain - this film will be terrible, and it will be tanking.

Originally Posted by snake

You’re borderline special if you think this movie won’t make money on name recognition only. Some properties are literally too big to fail, especially if it has kid appeal- which Sonic has loads of.

Sonic hasn't had a best-selling game in ... how many years? His other branches ( cartoons, comics, clothing, etc. ) aren't any different. This isn't the nineties, anymore.

What makes you think that this movie will be different from any of this other recent flops, especially if it stars Bootleg Sonic?

As poorly run/managed as they are, this is literally Sega's last chance. They had two big hits ( The Infamous Mix of Sonic '06 and Sonic Boom: The Terrible Two ) that damaged not only their reputation, but Sonic's as well. They have lost A LOT of money/stock as a result of those two disasters. This movie will probably kill them off, both financially and socially. ( Not to mention this film arrives just in time for the 13th and 5th anniversary of the former and latter, respectively. That's ... not a good sign ... )

They get no more chances after this thing flops, hard.

[snake]

It’s a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. People typically have more incentive to see a movie rather than say, a game or cartoon. It’s an easier form of media to digest and requires far less time. Movies are also a social event, just because of the vast amount of people who end up seeing them. Comic book movies do so well because of name recognition, even if the comics themselves aren’t selling like they used to. I guarantee you this thing won’t flop if it’s advertised like the average blockbuster is. Even if it deserves to flop- which is entirely subjective- it’s still not going to flop. Name recognition can literally make or break a movie. Quality doesn’t mean sh*t in the current film atmosphere.

[Papenbrook]

Trust me, snake. I have hope in humanity; they will never have the incentive to see this film.

It will flop. I promise that it will.

[Leo656]

It's gonna be hilarious when it hits $200 million and you end up grinding all your teeth down to little nubs.

"Hope in humanity." ((Auto Mechanic's Voice)) "Well now, see HERE's yer problem..."

Kids are stupid and they like stupid things. I say again: $200 million, bare minimum.

[snake]

The average person does not care about f*cking Sonic the Hedgehog as much as you think they do. It's very much like the TMNT situation. People know of the old stuff- they liked the old stuff- they see a questionable movie come out, and they end up going to see it because the "integrity of the franchise" or "quality" doesn't mean sh*t to someone who hasn't cared about that property since they were a kid. If it's bad, they'll brush it off and say "WELP, NOTHING BEATS THE CLASSICS AMIRITE" (regardless of the actual quality of said classics- but that's besides the point). If it's good, they'll smile, say "WELP, NOTHING BEATS THE CLASSICS AMIRITE" and then forget about it two months later.

That's a real world mentality, and one that goes for most people.

[Papenbrook]

All three of the renders that have been released did not indicate the final design for Sonic.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

All three of the renders that have been released did not indicate the final design for Sonic.

The final render will in all likeliness look more polished.

Wouldn't be surprised if it looks as good as the Detective Pikachu designs when the final design is released.