Hellboy Reboot

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

To be fair, a lot of those critics are probably going to be people who really loved the Del Toro movies and are made we got this instead of Hellboy 3.

So far, I think that accounts for 85% of all hate directed against this movie. I'm not expecting it to be spectacular or anything, but it'll probably be "a'ight" same as the others.

I actually am planning to check out some graphic novels from the library and see if I can dig into Hellboy, so the movies (both del Toro and this one) have generated at least THAT much interest for me.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Krutch

He does. When I met him at an expo he rolled his eyes at the mention of the movies. Not sure what he takes issue with.

Um, they're terrible?

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm in.

I desperately wanted Hellboy 3 but this looks extremely interesting. Mignola says they nailed it, so that's worth a peek from me.

I'll have to work hard to get my buddy to go see it with us. Huge Del Toro fan, takes the reboot as a personal betrayal. But maybe this will get him excited.

Perlman was great as Hellboy, but he was the only saving grace of those films.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

So far, I think that accounts for 85% of all hate directed against this movie. I'm not expecting it to be spectacular or anything, but it'll probably be "a'ight" same as the others.

I actually am planning to check out some graphic novels from the library and see if I can dig into Hellboy, so the movies (both del Toro and this one) have generated at least THAT much interest for me.

You're in for a hell of a ride

(see what I did there?? )

[Leo656]

Oh, for sure, in every single review I've read, there's some high praise for Del Toro's films and an undertone of "We Don't Need This Movie, We Wanted Hellboy 3". That's entirely unfair.

Furthermore, the words "It's TOO concerned with being faithful to the comic books" are repeated way, WAY too much by the critics. That's a feature, not a bug, morons. I get that movies are different, but holy sh*t, the guy who wrote the comics co-wrote the movie and this is what he wanted a Hellboy movie to look like. Maybe those people weren't fans of the Hellboy movies or the character, so much as they just liked Del Toro and are willing to pop for whatever he does? Sure seems that way. They're definitely not factoring in the actual creator's vision, they're too busy comparing it to the other films, which isn't at all fair.

I mean, sure, maybe it's just lousy. But I find it hard to believe it can be as bad as they're saying. I'm sensing a lot of bitterness about the loss of Hellboy 3 in almost every review, and other saying it's "Too Violent". WTF?

I'll grant, the CGI looks cheap. But I still think it's probably a better movie than it's being given credit for. Hopefully I'll know by Sunday. I'm not expecting a masterpiece but I do expect an entertaining comic book horror/action/comedy. I sincerely doubt I'll regret dropping the coin on it.

[Allio]

From someone that likes the comics, the old movies and the animated films (I personally liked the animated films better than the pearlman ones, really disappointed they didn't continue)

I liked the film good enough. Felt like a fun R-rated romp. Different from the comics and Pearlman's stuff to be sure, but welcomed. Biggest issue is that it Felt like a sequel to a movie that doesn't exist. Baba Yaga especially felt like she was like a major villain plot from a theoretical first film

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Most critics shouldn't be in the business of reviewing comic book films anyway, since they immediately crap on anything that isn't crammed full of "jokes" or watered down for children. Only ONE specific kind of CBM ever gets a good review, which says a lot all by itself.

I'm pretty sure those Batman films got some good reviews.

[joe-eyeball]

I think this movie isn’t anywhere near as bad as the critics are saying. I’m not disappointed at dropping $9 to see it. My biggest complaint is that every joke falls completely flat. There isn’t any humor in this movie at all. With that said it does in many ways feel like the comic with cool creature designs and David Harbour does a fine job in the role. The CG is a little iffy at times but that’s more of a budget limitation and doesn’t really spoil the film. I have a feeling it’ll be a while before we see Hellboy again in theaters as there was only five total people in the theater where I’m at.

[Leo656]

Yikes. That does not bode well.

Planning to see it tomorrow.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw it. It's not good. Hellboy is always cracking jokes that never land, Milla Jovovich pretty much sucks the life of the movie every time she's on screen and the CGI is pretty shockingly terrible in many places. Aside from Hellboy himself and his dad, all of the other actors were wooden.

It does have balls, though, so I have to give it some points. It's pretty bloody and when stuff gets crazy near the end, it gets even moreso. Let's just say there's some pretty... creative kills there.

[Allio]

I don't mind Hellboy cracking jokes, it feels like out of thethree (This, comic, and Perlman) this seems to be the youngest of the three (with comic being the oldest.) As for them landing? I mean it's comedy, it's all subjective. As for the cgi? Honestly I can't believe how cheap this film was, apparently 50 million to make.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Allio

As for them landing? I mean it's comedy, it's all subjective.

The theater I was in (which was full or close to full, surprisingly) was dead silent for 90% of them. The "head" joke near the end got a few chuckles, maybe.

[Allio]

Personally I always prefer quiet theatre. Unless it's one of those where everyone is in on the joke (like event movies). Though I can't really say that that there was many jokes that stood out in the film. I was pretty lucky, I had a thursday night showing (Had my A-list and I was finished with work just right before the last showing of the film, so I swung by) as there wasn't many,

[AquaParade]

Anyone feeling disappointed might want to check out the Hellboy Library Edition hardcovers. Really beautiful comics. Sure to make you feel a little better if you were looking forward to Hellboy.

For the record, I’m still looking forward to seeing this on home-video. Rarely do I go to the theater, so it will just have to wait a few months.

[Allio]

I don't have the library editions, but I do have the omnibuses that came out last year.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Allio

I don't have the library editions, but I do have the omnibuses that came out last year.

How is the quality on that?

The library editions were some of the finest hardcovers I’ve owned, but my BPRD hardcover came apart of it’s own will.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

How is the quality on that?

The library editions were some of the finest hardcovers I’ve owned, but my BPRD hardcover came apart of it’s own will.

I have the first of the 2018 Omnibuses its nice its your standard trade paperback but thick because of all the pages and the paper is the nice glossy stuff they use for most comics

[TigerClaw]

I saw it yesterday. and it wasn't bad at all. It was surprisingly good. Ignore those negative reviews.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I saw it yesterday. and it wasn't bad at all. It was surprisingly good. Ignore those negative reviews.

you say that with every movie you see.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I saw it yesterday. and it wasn't bad at all. It was surprisingly good. Ignore those negative reviews.

Oh no. It's bad, trust me. Maybe with another draft of the script and a different Bloodqueen actress it could have been something.

Also... this is absolutely true:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...one-ncna994016

Come to think of it yes, a large portion of the movie is written and setup like the latest "The Mummy"... i.e., it's eye set on foreshadowing many movies to come, not at all a focus on making this movie good.

[ProactiveMan]

I saw it on Saturday... it has it's moments, but overall it's a thumbs down from me.

I have no idea who this thing is aimed at. It suffers badly from 'Duke Nukem Forever syndrome', i.e. juvenile to the point that adults will roll their eyes, but full of content kids won't be allowed to see. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they should make everything for kids, but if you're making a movie for adults you have to write it for adults; and I don't mean throwing in loads of expletives.

I thought the script was overstuffed and pretty badly written. Some of the dialog was painful to listen to, although some actors did more with it than others. The two actors who played Hellboy's partners were particularly bad. Remember the 'whitewashing' controversy? Maybe there should have been a Yank-washing controversy because their British accents were balls. I think a lot of the lines would have landed better if they weren't trying to do the accents and act at the same time.

Movies always seems to have a built in excuse for negative criticism nowadays, and Hellboy 2019's is apparently the supposed butt-hurt of rabid del Toro fans. I'm sure they exist, and their butts probably do hurt, but at the end of the day this movie kind'a blows on it's own merits.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

but full of content kids won't be allowed to see.

This has always seemed a misnomer to me. In my childhood, everyone saw R-rated movies in the theater. Whether it's parents taking kids, or parents buying the tickets and then leaving you to see it.

Maybe the meter have shifted since then. I don't know.