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Old 08-06-2019, 10:43 PM   #901
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Adi Shankar responds to Jim Carrey's comments about the Sonic The Hedgehog redesign.
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Dear Jim,

The audience isn’t “in on the creation” of the film you acted in. Sonic the Hedgehog was already created, decades ago. This film you lended your talents to adapted him incorrectly. It’s this perspective that Hollywood is entitled to dismantle iconography as it sees fit and reassemble it in ways that often bear little resemblance to the source that has led to the friction between gamers and the film industry.

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Ooooh. I gotta agree with him there.

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Old 08-06-2019, 11:01 PM   #902
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:36 PM   #903
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I agree with Jim Carey.
Of course you would.

I say do it right or don't do it at all.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:51 PM   #904
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Adi Shankar is wrong and just sounds like a smart alec.

Paramount and whatever studio is adapting a pre existing franchise ARE making an official part of that property. They have the license and go ahead.

If you’re gonna use that argument then nothing should ever count unless it comes directly from the original creators.

Saying Hollywood has entitlement to dismantle iconic franchises is more of that tired notion that studios purposely mess around so they can make whatever they want.

The design aside (which was fine even if it came off kinda weird) nobody can say the movie bears little resemblance to the source when we’ve only seen a trailer.

Some things are bound to be different but every incarnation has differences. There’s Classic, Modern, Boom, Comics, Cartoons and now the movie universe.
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:47 AM   #905
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Adi Shankar is wrong and just sounds like a smart alec.

Paramount and whatever studio is adapting a pre existing franchise ARE making an official part of that property. They have the license and go ahead.

If you’re gonna use that argument then nothing should ever count unless it comes directly from the original creators.

Saying Hollywood has entitlement to dismantle iconic franchises is more of that tired notion that studios purposely mess around so they can make whatever they want.

The design aside (which was fine even if it came off kinda weird) nobody can say the movie bears little resemblance to the source when we’ve only seen a trailer.

Some things are bound to be different but every incarnation has differences. There’s Classic, Modern, Boom, Comics, Cartoons and now the movie universe.
IDK... you have to admit there's a certain level of arrogance and disrespect when someone acquired a pre-existing property and decides 'you know what, it sucks and it's wrong, my way is better!'

They might as well have just created their own character then.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:21 AM   #906
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IDK... you have to admit there's a certain level of arrogance and disrespect when someone acquired a pre-existing property and decides 'you know what, it sucks and it's wrong, my way is better!'

They might as well have just created their own character then.
How is that even happening here? They’ve literally gone out of their way to make it more appealing to those complaining.

Even if they stuck with the first design all we’ve seen is a trailer about 3 minutes that actually does show things in common with the source material.

I think there’s some sarcasm in his comments by describing it as dismantling. Sure movies based on games don’t have a perfect track record but some have actually been successful.

I looked him up because I couldn’t remember but he was behind wanting to rewrite or write out Apu from the Simpsons. He’s doing exactly what he’s complaining about...changing something well established.
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Old 08-07-2019, 06:57 AM   #907
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The design aside (which was fine even if it came off kinda weird) nobody can say the movie bears little resemblance to the source when we’ve only seen a trailer.
Uh, yes we can. The fact that they're choosing to set this film in our world instead of Sonic's is a pretty big deviation from the source material. If what you were saying was even true, it should be receiving the same about of praise Detective Pikachu got, if not more. People don't just hate the design, they hated the whole setting and premise as well. We don't need to pay to see the entire film when it's obvious this is going to be a vastly different take on Sonic.
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I agree with them both.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:02 AM   #909
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Uh, yes we can. The fact that they're choosing to set this film in our world instead of Sonic's is a pretty big deviation from the source material. If what you were saying was even true, it should be receiving the same about of praise Detective Pikachu got, if not more. People don't just hate the design, they hated the whole setting and premise as well. We don't need to pay to see the entire film when it's obvious this is going to be a vastly different take on Sonic.
Well, technically there is some resemblance;The Games after sonic adventure seemed to take place in a world that is a hybrid of our world and the games. And Sonic X is technically Sonic and the others from his world coming to ours.

Which leads me to ask; if the wanted a sonic on Earth story, they should have made an adaptation of Sonic X ( Without Chis's annoying-ness)
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:17 AM   #910
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Yeah, I can understand where they are both coming from.

On one hand, people ( mostly fans ) can't expect to have everything be faithful, at least from their perspective. They can't force an entity to cater/pander to their vision of what's faithful/fair to them. Some things need to be reconsidered or even changed in order for the intended audience to adapt/understand what they're viewing. They ( i.e., the fans ) need to learn to let it go sometimes, and stop demonizing/stargazing every perceived grievance they have towards every piece of every given media that they will ( or most likely, will not ) consume.

On the other hand, what I have seen of the upcoming Sonic film is so distorted that not only I, but many others, even outside of the fandom and beyond, have had to call out the producers/executives. There is no reason why Sonic should look like a terribly, horrifically, bootleg version of himself. There is no reason why the film should have to be centered around a cop, in the middle of nowhere, and on planet Earth. That's just ... feigning ignorance/unwillingness at that point.

It doesn't matter whether Iizuka allowed it, encouraged it, or even pushed it to be as different from the origin as possible. It's still ridiculously unfaithful to the source material, and it's making potential consumers and willing fans turn away.

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Old 08-07-2019, 10:18 AM   #911
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And Sonic X is technically Sonic and the others from his world coming to ours.
Sonic X is also acknowledge as a mediocre anime at best by most Sonic fans. What's your point?
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:22 AM   #912
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Sonic X is also acknowledge as a mediocre anime at best by most Sonic fans. What's your point?
It had a pretty good bonus season though (the one where they went to space)
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:24 AM   #913
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Yeah, I can understand where they are both coming from.

On one hand, people (mostly fans) can't expect to have everything be faithful, at least from their perspective. They can't force an entity to cater/pander to their vision of what's faithful/fair to them. Some things need to be reconsidered or even changed in order for the intended audience to adapt/understand what they're viewing. They (the fans) need to learn to let it go sometimes, and stop demonizing/stargazing every perceived grievance they have towards every piece of given media that they will (or most likely, will not) consume.

On the other hand, what I have seen of the upcoming Sonic film is so distorted that not only I, but many others, outside of the fandomhave had to call out the producers/executives. There is no reason why Sonic should look that terribly horrific.

Whether Iizuka allowed it, or even pushed it to be as different from the origin as possible, doesn't matter. It's still ridiculously unfaithful to the source material.
Either that or just accept it doesn't work and go for an animated movie.
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Let's just hope that the movie people, the willing critics, and the sensationalistic journalists don't try to turn this whole controversy into some sort of threat.

I would hate for someone to get hurt in all of this.

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Old 08-07-2019, 10:54 AM   #915
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Ooooh. I gotta agree with him there.
Ironic, coming from someone who's Power Rangers fan film bearded little resemblance to the source.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:19 AM   #916
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Ooooh. I gotta agree with him there.
You're agreeing with a guy who wanted to give an adult spin on the Power Rangers that isnt even close to the source material.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:23 AM   #917
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It doesn't matter whether Iizuka allowed it, encouraged it, or even pushed it to be as different from the origin as possible. It's still ridiculously unfaithful to the source material, and it's making potential consumers and willing fans turn away.
The source material is literally a hedgehog trying to stop a madman from taking over the world.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:50 PM   #918
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I never understood the "faithful to the source material arguement".

As long as the new property is fun and entertaining, I'm all for it, whether it borrows from the source or not.
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Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:58 PM   #919
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I never understood the "faithful to the source material arguement".

As long as the new property is fun and entertaining, I'm all for it, whether it borrows from the source or not.
It's exactly that line of thinking why we keep getting garbage movie adaptations of video games. No offense.
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It's exactly that line of thinking why we keep getting garbage movie adaptations of video games. No offense.
Well, the Super Mario movie is 'garbage', but its hugely enjoyable garbage nonetheless.
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Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.

Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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