New Ghostbusters movie in OG movie universe Jason Reitman directing 2020

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

By all means, man.

Actually, I think I do remember there being a legit source to that. It was Aykroyd himself suggesting that. "Maybe he can be a ghost!" or something, but the movie news outlets of the time seemed to take that as "Bill Murray lays terms: make me a ghost or I won't do it!" or something somesuch.

Cool. I’m not into making fanfiction myself but ever since that occurred to me and your idea I really want to make something out of it.

I don’t know if the writers did it on purpose to elaborate on in a sequel but making the government aware of supernatural activity that they cover up is so interesting to me. Like do they have their own secret ghost hunting operation?

Nobody thought anything of it but not surprising since everything else overshadowed the movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Cool. I’m not into making fanfiction myself but ever since that occurred to me and your idea I really want to make something out of it.

I don’t know if the writers did it on purpose to elaborate on in a sequel but making the government aware of supernatural activity that they cover up is so interesting to me. Like do they have their own secret ghost hunting operation?

Nobody thought anything of it but not surprising since everything else overshadowed the movie.

I admit, it's an interesting turn. Obviously after something like what happened in GB1 and 2 that'd be something the higher ups would like. But in a post-Afterlife affair, how would it work? Everyone forgot just 2016 but remembers 1984 and 1989?

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I admit, it's an interesting turn. Obviously after something like what happened in GB1 and 2 that'd be something the higher ups would like. But in a post-Afterlife affair, how would it work? Everyone forgot just 2016 but remembers 1984 and 1989?

I thought about that. I guess it could only be an alternate Ghostbusters 3 scenario. Just for fun.

Although I thought maybe GB’16 could be moved to take place later on after the events of Afterlife.

So GB, GB2 and Afterlife take place in a row but later on is when people’s minds get wiped along with the original GB, the new kids and Mr. Grooberson. GB’16 would be changed to take place in the near future.

Due to a wrinkle in time from the villain messing around Erin, Abby and Holtzmann found out and decided to become ghostbusters and invented their own equipment to try and bring everyone back to normal.

Yes I know it’s complicated Need to know how Afterlife turns out.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I thought about that. I guess it could only be an alternate Ghostbusters 3 scenario. Just for fun.

Although I thought maybe GB’16 could be moved to take place later on after the events of Afterlife.

So GB, GB2 and Afterlife take place in a row but later on is when people’s minds get wiped along with the original GB, the new kids and Mr. Grooberson. GB’16 would be changed to take place in the near future.

Due to a wrinkle in time from the villain messing around Erin, Abby and Holtzmann found out and decided to become ghostbusters and invented their own equipment to try and bring everyone back to normal.

Yes I know it’s complicated Need to know how Afterlife turns out.

Reading too much into it. Just let that one die.

[Wildcat]

Actually I thought about it and it’s really not that complicated.

It’s just introducing a villain that can change people’s memories which totally fits the supernatural/possession thing. It doesn’t necessarily have to be time manipulation. If it affects everyone it must affect all previous ghostbusters.

You could have Erin, Abby and Holtzmann discover all this through deja vu where they know something strange is going on (yes pun intended). This could explain using the same logo. I know the graffiti artist made it but still. This is better.

Of course there’s small details like dates mentioned and whatnot that could tie GB’16 to that year, I can’t remember off the top of my head but I think thats easily overlooked since they’re not major elements. Suspension of disbelief.

There’s still the issue of the government but maybe their knowledge of ghosts is unrelated and treated like they’re knowledge of aliens. Then obviously we find out they’re aware when the Mayor meets with them.

Still need to see how Afterlife turns out though just in case. I really cannot see anything it could do to ruin the idea though. It’d have to be something extremely specific.

[frank_one]

GB 2016 was a mistake, nobody wants it to be part of the continuity.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by frank_one

GB 2016 was a mistake, nobody wants it to be part of the continuity.

Where's the like button for this?

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by frank_one

GB 2016 was a mistake, nobody wants it to be part of the continuity.

Not even the man himself wants that series apart of the originals. That's why its said 30 years ago in the preview, fans are cracking up over that line LOL.

Man, why do politics have to be involved in films? I mean, how is this even an Anti woman's film? The leads a girl for crying out loud. Honestly, its not even the fact that the 2016 film was an all girls film, it just had a lot of things that didn't exactly work for a lot of people, not just me I assume? Though what's her face being all Anti man after the backlash of the 2016 film doesn't exactly leave a good taste in my mouth.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Not even the man himself wants that series apart of the originals. That's why its said 30 years ago in the preview, fans are cracking up over that line LOL.

I assume you mean Jason Reitman but the 30 years ago has nothing to do with ignoring the 2016 movie.

It’s clearly meant to be in the same timeline as the first 2 regardless. GB’16 was a separate movie. Including it would not make sense even if people loved it.

If they wanted to include it they’d have to do some juggling and come up with something close to my idea or do the whole universe crossover thing...but even then it would still be an alternate universe.

[Autbot_Benz]

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Man, why do politics have to be involved in films?

Because, certain people can't live without shoving their worldview down the throat of everyone. And if you dare to question them you are NAZI!

Originally Posted by Leofan26

I mean, how is this even an Anti woman's film?

Does she state every five minutes that she is a strong and independent woman who needs no straight white or any other kind of man? No?
Than it's a toxic patriarchy!

[Autbot_Benz]

It is Official Bill Murray is in this as Peter Venkman

https://comicbook.com/movies/2020/01...urn-confirmed/

"Well, we are a man down. That's the deal," he explained. "And that's the story we're telling, that's the story they've written."

Murray went on to praise the script of the sequel/reboot, saying that it has a lot of emotion and interesting plot threads.

"The script is good," the actor said. "It's got lots of emotion in it. It's got lots of family in it, with through lines that are really interesting. It's gonna work."

[Andrew NDB]

Which is a lot better than his vague praising of GB 2016 with just, "I love the ladies. They're great," while not talking at all about the movie or script itself.

[Wildcat]

I appreciate he came back but it was mostly his fault we didn’t get a GB3 sooner.

GB2 was 89 and sequels don’t always happen immediately so let’s give it a fair hiatus of 5 years. So 95 could be the starting point. I’m gonna say 22 years.

I’m not counting 2018 or 2019 since it was made last year and was obviously in the works before. Even without the reboot it might have still taken this long.

If you want to be really generous minus 2 more but that’s still 20 years. Not because they recently decided to make more like other popular movies, but because he did not want to so nobody could.

[Leo656]

When we were kids, my friends and I were convinced that Ghostbusters III would surely come out in 1994 to keep the "Five Years Later" thing going. Logic seems so simple when you're little.

And yeah, for sure. Good for Murray to come back (although if he'd relented to do Chickbusters and then skipped this one, lord knows what people would say, and I'm sure he knows it), but we could have had a real GB3 with the full original cast if he wasn't such a crotchety bastard.

I know his real-life problems with Ramis had a lot more to do with it than the simple "He doesn't like sequels and was annoyed by how GBII turned out" explanation, but even that was some childish nonsense. Not blaming entirely one party or the other, but it's always gonna bother me that two guys who worked so well together and had such magical chemistry, went and had a lifelong falling-out because they couldn't agree on how many jokes should be in the final cut of "Groundhog Day". It's so stupid.

People are such petty assholes sometimes.

[Wildcat]

If he truly did not want to do another just give up your part and let those who want to go ahead. As far as the movies go they said it was over his rights.

I’m probably in the minority but Id be ok if he did not return. I do prefer he appear for consistency but not if he was so against it.

I’m sure they could still make a good movie without him. Especially if it’s about some new ghostbusters.

I can totally buy Peter and Dana getting married and moved to live a normal life. Egon passed away and Ray and Winston ran things until they needed help.

Maybe Peter took his equipment in case they were ever haunted. Imagine mailing a trap to be emptied labeled “Fragile” or “This end up”. That’d be funny.

Anyway I’m just saying it’s not that hard to come up with a reasonable scenario.

[Leo656]

"A Reasonable Scenario" is what Disney tried to give us with Star Wars.

They had ALL the pieces in play to give fans what they actually WANTED - instead of merely "Something they might still like instead of what they wanted" - but they chose to instead "subvert expectations", and now they're scrambling.

Likewise, Ghostbusters fans wanted to see the Original Four have one last big run, and it's never gonna happen for petty, stupid, nonsense, bullsh*t reasons. "There's no cartoon out." "Toys don't sell." "It's a Dead Brand." "This guy's being a prima donna." "These two guys aren't friends anymore." "Maybe we can just remake it with women." 30 years, f*cking wasted, all for nothing but stupid, stupid, stupid bullsh*t. It's infuriating. What we end up getting might end up being Just Fine, but it's not what we wanted or truly deserved, and that simply f*cking sucks.

"The BEST We Can Possibly Do" should always be the goal. NOT, "The best we can do under the circumstances, which we have no one but ourselves and our shortsightedness to blame for."

No matter what they come up with now and going forward, it won't be The Best Possible Ghostbusters 3 that could have (and should have) been made. Anything less than the Core 4 is a disappointment.

Kudos to all involved for currently trying to make the best of a less-than-ideal situation, but WHO created that situation? They did.

It is what it is, but just like the mishandling of the Original Trilogy characters in the new Star Wars movies, there's sadly no going back and the chance to do something TRULY special is blown forever. The best they can do now is "The best we can do, now". And that's a situation they created for themselves.

They had the means, once upon a time, to give us much, MUCH more than just "a reasonable scenario." They just didn't think it was important, and now it's too late.

This is what happens when you prioritize the wrong things.

[Wildcat]

Im sure the studio and obviously Dan Aykroyd wanted to do one a long time ago. Bill Murray kept holding it back. It was apparently out of their control until they gave him a limit. I remember reading that. I guess that let the reboot through.

Even the reboot could have been some sort of continuation but Feig insisted on doing his own movie. The studio could have vetoed that but just didn’t.

Sure I wanted all 4 originals back at least one more time but it was bound to go in the passing-the-torch direction introducing new members with only 1 or 2 staying around. Whether it was part 3 or 4.

It took way too long but I’m very happy we finally got here.

[Leo656]

Feig should have been shown the door the second he said, "Well, I don't know about, like, or care about Ghostbusters." And whoever replied to him, "That's EXACTLY what we want for this reboot!" should have been fired, if not thrown to the lions outright. Again, what does it matter, right? It's "just" $200 million and a bunch of egg on everyone's face. It "just" wasted everyone's time and made everyone involved look like a f*cking idiot. No big deal.

To bring it back around to what we were talking about earlier, as I understand it, at the end of the day Murray simply wouldn't work with Ramis. Maybe I'm not 100% on that, and I'm sure the other stuff was a factor, but that's the story I've heard most often and most-detailed; there were always talks about "Well, Bill won't do it unless the script was a certain way", but apparently the larger truth was that he and Ramis simply never spoke after Groundhog Day and they didn't get to patch things up before he died. "Scripts" this and "Sequel Fatigue" that, allegedly it was all simply because two senior citizens were still hellbent on dragging out a lovers' spat from two decades earlier, to the benefit of f*cking no one.

"Less deadpan and more zany, Bill. This is a comedy."
"Don't tell me how to do my job, Hal. This might be your movie but you ain't the boss'a me."
'Well you don't have to be such a grouch about it."
"F*ck you, let's never talk again."
"...Fine, I...guess?"

That's it. That's the whole goddamn thing. It's so STUPID. And what's worse is, I've read Murray say that he wishes they'd made up and he really regrets being so petty to the point it didn't happen, since now it's too late. Well... who the f*ck told you to be Yourself, Bill Murray? Such petty, childish, immature nonsense.

Two sides to everything, of course, but I've *heard* more than once that Harold was open to working with Bill, but Bill simply wouldn't speak to or work with Ramis. Let's just be real, life is way too short for that kinda petty bullsh*t. The fact that it ruined the chance to ever get a real GB3 is just Bonus Points Of Awful.

People need to realize that you only get one shot at life and there's no do-overs. Some opportunities carry an expiration date, and if you miss it, well... then it's gone. And regrets are heavy.

[Wildcat]

I’ve read they made up right before he passed away but ya I agree. They should have talked and sorted it out way before. For themselves regardless of GB.

They did the game together. I guess they were still mad at each other during that but at least they had some interaction.