Rocky IV The Directors Cut

[ZariusTwo]

Rocky IV directors cut in development from Syl


https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sy.../1100-6479354/

[Andrew NDB]

Read about this a few days ago. I'd never even considered there was a lot of cut footage on the floor.

[MikeandRaph87]

I would like to see a comparison between the two versions of the film to see what would different. I said it before and I will again,this movie should have wrapped up the franchise.

[oldmanwinters]

Aside from the original Rocky, all "home video" releases of the vintage Rocky series (II-V) have been practically bare-bones in regards to special features, despite constant re-releases. I welcome this with open arms!

And FYI, there is a great Ivan Dragon fan game out there if anybody is interested (and if you can find it)!
https://rocky.fandom.com/wiki/Ivan_D...stice_Enforcer

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Aside from the original Rocky, all "home video" releases of the vintage Rocky series (II-V) have been practically bare-bones in regards to special features, despite constant re-releases. I welcome this with open arms!

And FYI, there is a great Ivan Dragon fan game out there if anybody is interested (and if you can find it)!
https://rocky.fandom.com/wiki/Ivan_D...stice_Enforcer

I would play that! If you do find a link please PM it to me!

[Autbot_Benz]

Stallone hates Paulie's Robot and is gonna remove that in the Directors cut

https://twitter.com/murderwizard/sta...60957436563457

[Jester]

I'll miss you Happy Birthday, Paulie Robot...

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Stallone hates Paulie's Robot and is gonna remove that in the Directors cut

https://twitter.com/murderwizard/sta...60957436563457

Can we remove Apollo's death too? That is the death of the franchise. Apollo being beaten near death and coming back year later could have been a spinoff.

I am indifferent about Paulie's lady friend robot. Why put it in if he hates it? Comedic relief?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Can we remove Apollo's death too? That is the death of the franchise. Apollo being beaten near death and coming back year later could have been a spinoff.

Of course not than it basically negates the Creed Movies which are fantastic 1 more so than 2.

Rocky 5 was technically the death of the franchise until Rocky Balboa and Creed saved it.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Of course not than it basically negates the Creed Movies which are fantastic 1 more so than 2.

Rocky 5 was technically the death of the franchise until Rocky Balboa and Creed saved it.

I LOVE the first four. Then it's like a dead franchise walking. Removing Adrian and romancing the one time preteen he told not to smoke to see if he still had it and not much a nemesis in Mason Dixon then Creed creates an illegitimate child for Apollo that does not make sense for his character and was too old to enter boxing at age 30. The soundtrack is my jam. Then with 5 it takes on a hip hop favoritism from the hybrid of pop rock and instrumental. If others like them it's fine. Its just not for me.

[CyberCubed]

Why would they remove Apollo's death? That's like the dumbest suggestion I heard in a long time. That's the whole point of the movie.

[turtle1237]

Yeah it was Rocky 5 that was the downer for the series, not Creed's death. In fact, I was in shock when Creed died in theaters. I could not believe they did that lol. That took some guts.

[Leo656]

Yeah, M&R, there's really nothing I can say about that suggestion without being too much of a heel. Other than I think you're kinda sensitive to let stuff like that bother you so much, broski.

As for the newer films, I don't much care for "hip hop flavor" myself generally speaking but it's authentic to boxing as a sport and the "aura" surrounding it so I have no problem with it. It's a "black sport", in that most of the athletes who dominate and thus most of the people who watch it, happen to be black. Thus, movies which represent the sport are going to have that kind of "flavor" and that's perfectly fine, it's merely being authentic which is something I always enjoy. Even if something isn't my taste I will always applaud for authentic representation that isn't pandering and is merely, as the kids say, "Keeping it real". I actually enjoyed it quite a bit in the recent films because in no way did it take away from the story. It DID however add greatly to the immersion. Dare I say, the "verisimilitude".

The older films were authentic to boxing in the 1980s, the newer ones absolutely should reflect the modern style and aesthetic of the sport. I really, REALLY like how they use the actual cameras and on-air personalities from the various boxing shows on TV to give the films that realistic feeling. They're so good with that kinda sh*t. Doesn't matter that I don't actually watch boxing or listen to a lot of hip-hop; they're "keeping it real" and I'm always all about that.

Beyond that, "Rocky Balboa" and "Creed" are definitely among the absolute best movies in the entire franchise. Tons of heart and some of the best actual boxing in the entire series. Seriously, I adore I and II but the actual fight scenes were sh*t in how you can see them whiff on punches by over a foot sometimes. The fights in the newest films are WAY better.

I mean, people can do what they want, but as someone who originally thought before seeing them that neither "Rocky Balboa" nor "Creed" necessarily needed to be made, I can openly admit that my original feelings were misguided and they're secretly two of the best in the entire series, bar-none. I mean, I full-on rolled my eyes when they announced "Creed". But it's great! And y'all know how hard it can be to win me over sometimes. But when I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I actually like being wrong when it means I get to be given gifts such as "Creed". Right up there with "Cobra Kai" in 'Gifts I never asked for but am damn happy I got."

Anyways, as someone who absolutely bleeds "Rocky", I genuinely feel a sense of deep sadness and sorrow for anyone who can't appreciate the series' newer entries for myopic and trivial reasons. They're missing out on some of the best sh*t they ever did! Don't do that to yourself, kids. The entire story was always about "Taking life's hits and getting back up," and "Balboa" and "Creed" do a MUCH better job of making that point than pretty much any of them after the third one. And they do a much better job of creating REAL emotion within the viewer than any of them after the second one.

"It's such good sh*t, pal."
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I love Rocky IV, but every single criticism about how "It's not a movie, it's a music video about Rocky" is bang-on. So I'm open to seeing a new version.

But c'moooon, no "Happy Birthday Paulie" robot? Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOOD, SLY!

I guess I'll get over it. I GUESS.

[Andrew NDB]

Good, get rid of the robot. I don't care if it has its fans, it is easily the most ridiculous part of the whole franchise.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I love Rocky IV, but every single criticism about how "It's not a movie, it's a music video about Rocky" is bang-on. So I'm open to seeing a new version.

So many montages. There's like 3 or 4 montages in it. Jeeze... I'm not sure I'd want to see any of them removed. Maybe the one where he gets in his car and starts driving around fast remembering Apollo... that was kind of silly. If there was any somber scenes filmed with Rocky grieving Apollo, I'd use that instead.

[Leo656]

No, no... you can't lose "No Easy Way Out"! That's just plain blasphemy.

Frankly, as it's by far the shortest film in the series, I'm looking for Additions, not Cuts. It's barely an hour and a half to begin with, isn't it? Jokes aside I've never been too mad about what's already IN the movie, but it doesn't have a ton of meat on its bones and I'd like to see some things fleshed out a bit more, if anything. I'd rather see them dig some stuff up from the cutting room floor before they start going crazy with the scissors.

[CyberCubed]

I was gonna say, if they start cutting out a ton of stuff this is going to be what....a 50-60 minute movie? Unless they have tons of old cut footage from the 80's they're adding into this...this is going to be a very short film.

[Leo656]

They could add about 20 minutes of Brigitte Nielson taking slow, seductive drags off a cigarette and I'd be alright with that.

She was pretty hot back then before she melted like a wax candle.

[sdp]

The whole franchise is ridiculous, especially IV, only the original works as a serious movie and this is from someone who likes the whole franchise. And the robot is awesome.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Leo656

They could add about 20 minutes of Brigitte Nielson taking slow, seductive drags off a cigarette and I'd be alright with that.

She was pretty hot back then before she melted like a wax candle.

Haha I was disturbed at her first scene in Creed 2... Like what is that? But credit to her for making a cameo, despite the awkwardness of working with her ex.

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Stallone hates Paulie's Robot and is gonna remove that in the Directors cut

https://twitter.com/murderwizard/sta...60957436563457

Now that's just going too far!

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by sdp

The whole franchise is ridiculous, especially IV, only the original works as a serious movie and this is from someone who likes the whole franchise. And the robot is awesome.

They are basically superhero movies. That's really what they are.