Whats wrong with the turtles being silly? - Page 2

*Powder* · 12-15-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cake-Monster85

I've had the same arguments at work with my friend, Greg. I'm used to this sentiment. He's all, "TMNT Should Be Gritty and Dark and Made For Adults" and I just can't agree. Just different aspects to the fandom I guess.

Kinda like how some prefer Adam West Batman to Neil Adams/Frank Miller version... or the serious Superman stuff to the George Reeves TV show and Superboy stuff. Different strokes for different folks as they say.

You probably are Greg, AKA PizzaPowerwhatever.

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

You probably are Greg, AKA PizzaPowerwhatever.

Well, that is my name. LoL. You wouldn't be the first, but Nope! He's too Leftist for me. He's cool and all, but he don't believe in God and he don't respect the heroes of this country. Trust me, working with him is hard enough. To "BE" him? My word, I couldn't imagine. The things that come outta his mouth are just too damn Liberal for me.

srmff · 12-15-2020, 05:42 PM

I'm also in the camp where I like seeing the turtles being humorous with each other as brothers and having some light-hearted moments but being competent and serious when required where they're actually respected as a threat by their opponents.

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by srmff

I'm also in the camp where I like seeing the turtles being humorous with each other as brothers and having some light-hearted moments but being competent and serious when required where they're actually respected as a threat by their opponents.

there was some of that in every incarnation tho.

Last Ronin · 12-15-2020, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by srmff

I'm also in the camp where I like seeing the turtles being humorous with each other as brothers and having some light-hearted moments but being competent and serious when required where they're actually respected as a threat by their opponents.

Yeah, I'm with this. I'm in the mind frame that the TMNT should have put up a better fight against Batman. I mean four highly trained Ninjas that in their eorld fought countless enemies and such can't put up at the very least a better threat to Batman, I know it's Batman but damn he swatted these guys like they swat away foot soldiers. Comedy is all good for me and being goofy but I want to see them taken more seriously than the 80's cartoon in some incarnations.

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Ronin

Yeah, I'm with this. I'm in the mind frame that the TMNT should have put up a better fight against Batman. I mean four highly trained Ninjas that in their eorld fought countless enemies and such can't put up at the very least a better threat to Batman, I know it's Batman but damn he swatted these guys like they swat away foot soldiers. Comedy is all good for me and being goofy but I want to see them taken more seriously than the 80's cartoon in some incarnations.

I watched that movie and thought it was great. The Batman Joker fight was a lot of fun.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-15-2020, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cake-Monster85

Oh, you must be Andrew. Hi!
Well, dude... you have to admit, that TMNT on its face is pretty silly. That's what's so fun about it. It's not meant to be taken seriously! I mean they eat pizza and fly around with dimension-hopping teenagers and encounter all kinds of talking animals. How serious can it get?

The TMNT I dig don't do any of the things you mention.

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The TMNT I dig don't do any of the things you mention.

Fair enough. But those of us that enjoy the cartoons should be allowed to enjoy them here! On a TMNT forum.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-15-2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cake-Monster85

Fair enough. But those of us that enjoy the cartoons should be allowed to enjoy them here! On a TMNT forum.

Who's saying you can't, exactly?

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Who's saying you can't, exactly?

No one... just a general feeling of unease I guess. This place is pretty welcoming... when I'm not being accused of being someone I'm not, just because I share a moniker with some Liberal SJW who got here years before me, who I happen to know in real life.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:26 PM

Well I mean, like I said elsewhere... nobody ever tells anyone they "can't" like what they like. It's just that people who like the "goofy" TMNT get sick of how many people disagree, how strongly they disagree, and eventually they just leave rather than get roped into the same old debates over and over again.

But no, nobody "makes" them leave. Nobody even "bullies" them, which is another common claim. They just typically can't handle dissent. It's a common and repeating pattern.

~~Cake-Monster85~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Well I mean, like I said elsewhere... nobody ever tells anyone they "can't" like what they like. It's just that people who like the "goofy" TMNT get sick of how many people disagree, how strongly they disagree, and eventually they just leave rather than get roped into the same old debates over and over again.

But no, nobody "makes" them leave. Nobody even "bullies" them, which is another common claim. They just typically can't handle dissent. It's a common and repeating pattern.

I did hear once that a long time ago there was an unofficial rule bout not criticizing the original cartoon around these parts. That's okay. Truth is, I've lurked on the Technodrome Forums for a long time... since at least 2018 and... finally made an account when I heard that guy I know had an account here.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:41 PM

It was no "bashing", not no criticizing. Although either way, that's been relaxed in recent years.

Pretty much the only rule that matters is "No harassment or personal attacks." That's really the only rule any forum should have, in my opinion.

I mean, *I'd* say "No fat chicks" but then, y'know... "internet".

*Andrew NDB* · 12-15-2020, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Well I mean, like I said elsewhere... nobody ever tells anyone they "can't" like what they like. It's just that people who like the "goofy" TMNT get sick of how many people disagree, how strongly they disagree, and eventually they just leave rather than get roped into the same old debates over and over again.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Then later on you'll see those same people pop up in strange corners of the internet, or FB, talking about, "The Technodrome forums are a real wasteland! So many a**holes and lawlessness. Never going there again!" with 4 or 5 like-minded others agreeing with them and so on.

**Jester** · 12-15-2020, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

You probably are Greg, AKA PizzaPowerwhatever.

You win the Technodrome No-Prize

~~Leo656~~ · 12-15-2020, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, that sounds about right. Then later on you'll see those same people pop up in strange corners of the internet, or FB, talking about, "The Technodrome forums are a real wasteland! So many a**holes and lawlessness. Never going there again!" with 4 or 5 like-minded others agreeing with them and so on.

Y'know who I don't miss? All the contrarian types who'd over-sell for things most everyone else hated, and double-down by saying "I like this even MORE because everyone hates it!" and talk about drinking "salty fanboy tears" and such.

I don't think it's any coincidence that all the arguments, personal insults and people getting Temp-Banned dropped by about 75% once those people "had enough" and quit.

I still see some of them on FB. This place is apparently an "Alt-Right Echo Chamber" now and that's why they left.

I mean, whatever it took to get rid of 'em, I guess. The toxic ones never believe they're the toxic ones. They're always "The Good Guys"!

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 12-15-2020, 08:49 PM

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This place is apparently an "Alt-Right Echo Chamber.

Oh boy, how I wish that was the case.

This place will never reach 4Chan levels of glory. That site helped popularise My Little Pony too

*Coola Yagami* · 12-29-2020, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Y'know who I don't miss? All the contrarian types who'd over-sell for things most everyone else hated, and double-down by saying "I like this even MORE because everyone hates it!" and talk about drinking "salty fanboy tears" and such.

I don't think it's any coincidence that all the arguments, personal insults and people getting Temp-Banned dropped by about 75% once those people "had enough" and quit.

I still see some of them on FB. This place is apparently an "Alt-Right Echo Chamber" now and that's why they left.

I mean, whatever it took to get rid of 'em, I guess. The toxic ones never believe they're the toxic ones. They're always "The Good Guys"!

Especially the ones that are die-hard fans of the BayTurtles.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-29-2020, 01:41 AM

I'm with Andrew in thinking that most of those specific people were sent here by Nickelodeon and Viacom. Nobody's taste is THAT bad, not even TMNT fans. No sane adult thinks those movies were anything but piss.

I'm more thinking along the lines of the longtime member-type folks who insisted that stuff like Chickbusters was good, and the more people said it wasn't - which isn't even an "opinion", it's a provable fact - the more they dug in and said stuff like "I like the movie even more because a bunch of people with small-dick energy hate it. Your salty fanboy tears sustain me." Like, that's just plain sh*t-stirring, it's not even discourse.

I won't name names, because even though they "quit and don't miss it" according to the stuff they say on FB, I know for a fact a lot of them still lurk. And I can't help but notice that after they left, there was a HUGE drop in people arguing, threads getting locked, and people being Temp-Banned.

It's almost as if when people try and converse like adults, even when they disagree, and don't openly cop to trying to rile people up on purpose "for the lulz", everybody gets along a lot better in general and people don't fight as much.

aprilbound · 12-29-2020, 08:35 AM

Absolutely nothing wrong with them silly, as long as the show has a decent art style and not the horrendous style from the last show!

12-15-2020, 05:42 PM	#23
srmff Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 189	I'm also in the camp where I like seeing the turtles being humorous with each other as brothers and having some light-hearted moments but being competent and serious when required where they're actually respected as a threat by their opponents.

12-15-2020, 07:26 PM	#31
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Well I mean, like I said elsewhere... nobody ever tells anyone they "can't" like what they like. It's just that people who like the "goofy" TMNT get sick of how many people disagree, how strongly they disagree, and eventually they just leave rather than get roped into the same old debates over and over again. But no, nobody "makes" them leave. Nobody even "bullies" them, which is another common claim. They just typically can't handle dissent. It's a common and repeating pattern.

12-15-2020, 07:41 PM	#33
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It was no "bashing", not no criticizing. Although either way, that's been relaxed in recent years. Pretty much the only rule that matters is "No harassment or personal attacks." That's really the only rule any forum should have, in my opinion. I mean, I'd say "No fat chicks" but then, y'know... "internet".

12-29-2020, 01:41 AM	#39
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm with Andrew in thinking that most of those specific people were sent here by Nickelodeon and Viacom. Nobody's taste is THAT bad, not even TMNT fans. No sane adult thinks those movies were anything but piss. I'm more thinking along the lines of the longtime member-type folks who insisted that stuff like Chickbusters was good, and the more people said it wasn't - which isn't even an "opinion", it's a provable fact - the more they dug in and said stuff like "I like the movie even more because a bunch of people with small-dick energy hate it. Your salty fanboy tears sustain me." Like, that's just plain sh*t-stirring, it's not even discourse. I won't name names, because even though they "quit and don't miss it" according to the stuff they say on FB, I know for a fact a lot of them still lurk. And I can't help but notice that after they left, there was a HUGE drop in people arguing, threads getting locked, and people being Temp-Banned. It's almost as if when people try and converse like adults, even when they disagree, and don't openly cop to trying to rile people up on purpose "for the lulz", everybody gets along a lot better in general and people don't fight as much.

12-29-2020, 08:35 AM	#40
aprilbound Mouser Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13	Absolutely nothing wrong with them silly, as long as the show has a decent art style and not the horrendous style from the last show!