Official Justice League Movie

[ZariusTwo]

Snyder confirms the movie will run for a full four hours and there will be no mini-series format after all


https://comicbook.com/movies/news/ju...movie-hbo-max/

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Snyder confirms the movie will run for a full four hours and there will be no mini-series format after all


https://comicbook.com/movies/news/ju...movie-hbo-max/

yeesh 4 hours of Snydervision that sounds terrible

[AquaParade]

Maybe they couldn't find an organic way to chop it up. Or maybe they think they can capitalize off of the recent discussions regarding how many episodes services are dropping at once with a "Get it all at once!!" angle to their advertisements. There are benefits to dropping episodes periodically or weekly, but HBO can try and make a bluff out of how much content they have coming by allowing entire programs to drop at once.
I mean, they really do have a lot coming in the next year. I'm probably going to subscribe.

[CyberCubed]

Don't worry, if you watch at 1.5x speed that 4 hour movie will be condensed into about a 2 hour 1/2 movie. Which is still pretty long, but at least it'll be more manageable.

Hell, maybe I'll switch to 2x speed at some of the slower parts of this to get through it even faster.

[ZariusTwo]

Cartoon Network will be airing the Whedon cut of Justice League tomorrow.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Don't worry, if you watch at 1.5x speed that 4 hour movie will be condensed into about a 2 hour 1/2 movie. Which is still pretty long, but at least it'll be more manageable.

Hell, maybe I'll switch to 2x speed at some of the slower parts of this to get through it even faster.

you can't enjoy a movie by watching it at faster speeds you dolt even a terrible 4 hour movie by a terrible director.

[Sumac]

It's hard to sit through Snyder regular movies, 4 hours would be a torture. Or a good sleeping pill. Also, what had happened with his plan to chop it into two parts?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Sumac

It's hard to sit through Snyder regular movies, 4 hours would be a torture.

agreed call it cruel and unusual punishment.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Maybe they couldn't find an organic way to chop it up.

That's the most likely reason. It wasn't originally shot to have "story breaks" and they only shot two minutes of new footage, supposedly, so there was most likely no way to add chapter breaks in a way that wasn't completely disruptive to the flow of the movie. They probably tried it, found out that all the breaks were right in the middle of scenes and that it simply wasn't going to work. I kinda wondered from the beginning how that was even going to work, and I'm not surprised it doesn't. If it wasn't shot for that and you don't have a lot of autonomy to add more padding and such then there's only so much you can do.

What I wanna know is, they already announced the 4K Blu-ray release of it, but is there a "regular" Blu-ray coming out? Because I don't have a 4K player and don't care to buy one. I assume they would be releasing a regular disc too but it'd be nice to have confirmation.

Also be nice if the same people who've been whining for five years could go f*ck their own ass instead of repeating themselves constantly. When other people do that sh*t about stuff you like, you bitch. Grow the f*ck up and move on already. EVERY time any news comes out; "This sucks, I don't wanna watch it." Okay, then DON'T.

And then at least some of them are gonna watch it anyway just so they can say how MUCH they hated it, because that's the way a mature adult behaves. THAT's gonna be fun, once the people who liked it try and have a conversation about it after it comes out, and The Same Three People show up to go on and on and ON about how much they didn't like it.

It's like I really wish the people who swear they don't care would COMMIT to not caring and f*cking move on already. It was "tiresome" years ago and now it's well beyond. I think Power Rangers is the dumbest thing ever; you don't see me sh*tting up that thread every time anyone talks about it, for f*cks sake. I don't even read it. I don't care, so I don't care.

Like c'mon, Benz, your "two cents" on this topic is up to fifty bucks at this point. Take that sh*t and go buy a hooker if you're that bored. You repeat yourself more than f*cking CyberCubed and you're always on his ass for being annoying and crass but you're in no way any better. Act your f*cking age already. Jesus.

[Coola Yagami]

I get the feeling that if Leo, me and say 3 random Dromers all sat down to watch this 4 hour Snyder cut together....

by hour 3 and a half, me and the other guys would either be sleeping or watching miserably waiting for it to end..... while Leo is still watching it wide-awake and with a big smile just as when the first hour started.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I get the feeling that if Leo, me and say 3 random Dromers all sat down to watch this 4 hour Snyder cut together....

by hour 3 and a half, me and the other guys would either be sleeping or watching miserably waiting for it to end..... while Leo is still watching it wide-awake and with a big smile just as when the first hour started.

Yeah, that sounds about right. And I would still be saying the same things like ' Batfleck isn't half bad, Aquaman and Wonder Woman are quite underrated even if Aquaman looks like my favorite wrestler and why Steffenwolf? Kalibak,Desaad, or someone else and Cyborg, needs to go to Titans tower..." Then Leo would punch my arm and tell me I sound like a broken record.

[Leo656]

People can like or not like what they want but some people have been repeating themselves ad nauseum for 5 f*cking years providing zero new "insight". It's not "conversation", it's not "debate", it's just "I hate that thing you like", over and over and OVER again.

I mean, it's all already been said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said.

Not one person on Earth expects anyone who didn't like MoS or BvS to magically like "Justice League". So don't watch it! And for God's sake if you already know you're gonna hate it then spare the people who are gonna watch it and probably like it your "insights" because those people aren't interested.

And I'm less annoyed with the ones who won't watch it because they know they won't like it. That's fine. I know I'd hate stuff like "Ragnarok" and "Birds of Prey", so I don't watch them. Simple. What kills me is people like Benz are going to watch "Justice League" anyway just so they can constantly butt in with how much they hated it.

And y'know what? I'll make you a deal right now, in that case. How much money would it cost me to pay you to NOT watch the goddamn movie just so I wouldn't have to listen to all that? Seriously. You know you're gonna hate it, just don't even f*cking watch it then. Jesus CHRIST.

Five years ago it could have been "a conversation" or a dialogue. Now it's just the same people pissing in their own mouths because they can't get enough of the taste.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Leo656

What kills me is people like Benz are going to watch "Justice League" anyway just so they can constantly butt in with how much they hated it.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

https://i.imgur.com/1cdXPIh.gif

Pot. Kettle. Black. Every. Time.
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It's likely been said, but I am still curious on a hypothetical scenario: if the reception of Snyder's version is better than the theatrical version, will it be the canonical variant going forward? Or, will Whedon's still be the one?

Just genuinely curious. I haven't seen any of the DCEU films barring Man of Steel, and that was a longtime ago. I could really use some insight as a result.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Leo656

People can like or not like what they want but some people have been repeating themselves ad nauseum for 5 f*cking years providing zero new "insight". It's not "conversation", it's not "debate", it's just "I hate that thing you like", over and over and OVER again.

I mean, it's all already been said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said. And said.

Not one person on Earth expects anyone who didn't like MoS or BvS to magically like "Justice League". So don't watch it! And for God's sake if you already know you're gonna hate it then spare the people who are gonna watch it and probably like it your "insights" because those people aren't interested.

And I'm less annoyed with the ones who won't watch it because they know they won't like it. That's fine. I know I'd hate stuff like "Ragnarok" and "Birds of Prey", so I don't watch them. Simple. What kills me is people like Benz are going to watch "Justice League" anyway just so they can constantly butt in with how much they hated it.

And y'know what? I'll make you a deal right now, in that case. How much money would it cost me to pay you to NOT watch the goddamn movie just so I wouldn't have to listen to all that? Seriously. You know you're gonna hate it, just don't even f*cking watch it then. Jesus CHRIST.

Five years ago it could have been "a conversation" or a dialogue. Now it's just the same people pissing in their own mouths because they can't get enough of the taste.

Okay so he would punch my arm, but he would piledrive broken records that screech louder.

[Leo656]

GM: No, WB has said that Snyder's version is basically an "Elsewords" at this point. Since Whedon's came out first and was an "official" theatrical release, then as of now that's the "mainstream" version of the movie and will remain that way.

I mean, that MIGHT change, but I don't expect it to. In the unlikely event that it makes a TON of money for HBO Max and gets an overwhelmingly positive reception - neither of which are likely if we're being completely honest - then WB could shift gears and say "Never mind, Snyder's is the new Official Version and Whedon's is the 'Elseworlds' version" but I just don't see that happening. The only real precedent is how the "Ultimate Edition" of BvS is now considered the "real" version of the movie rather than the Theatrical Cut, but it's not like that was a completely different movie as this project will be. It just turned out that the extra 30 minutes made a lot of difference to smooth out the plot and was edited a lot better, so the Theatrical Cut is considered "useless". But again, that was a Shorter vs. Longer Cut situation, not a "Two Different Versions of the Same Movie" situation.

That said, given how bad the reception was for Whedon's JL, I do expect the reception for Snyder's cut to be better simply for being coherent. MOST of the hate for Whedon's version came from being so completely the opposite of what Snyder's originally was, and the two directors' styles clashing against each other horribly. So at least Snyder's will be one consistent and coherent film rather than a patchwork quilt of two people whose styles don't mesh at all.

The theatrical cut of "Justice League" was like what would have happened if J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson "co-directed" a Star Wars movie. So if nothing else at least the Snyder version won't have that particular problem, and will at least feel like an actual sequel to the two films that preceded it.

But will it change anyone's mind? Absolutely not. People who've always either Loved or Hated Zack Snyder's DC films will feel exactly the same about this one. WB and Zack have never really even tried to convince us otherwise. Not one person who hated MoS or BvS has any reason whatsoever to even try to watch this one. And if they do watch it just so they can run around screaming "See? I KNEW I'D HATE IT!" then they're willfully being obstinate idiots.

And there ARE a lot of those people out there, both on this forum and elsewhere, and that's incredibly irritating. Why the f*ck do people do that? "I'm gonna waste hours of my life watching something I KNEW that I'd hate, then spend even MORE time going around telling anyone who'll listen how much I hated it!" Like seriously. I didn't watch "Transformers 3 and 4" and the chick "Ghostbusters" movie because I thought I'd like them; I KNEW I wouldn't. My f*cking wife forced me to or else I'd never have watched them. To this day, I STILL have not seen either BayTurtles movie in their entirety and I don't ever plan to. I'm not watching "Birds of Prey" or "Ragnarok" in this lifetime unless my wife makes me OR someone has a gun to my head. I don't willingly watch things I already know I'm going to hate, just so I can spew snarky bile on the internet about just how awful they are. Not habitually. I watched ONE episode of "Rise of the TMNT", so I could claim that "I gave it a chance", and all I learned from that experiment was, "I don't NEED to give everything a chance", and that trusting my gut when something screams at me to avoid it is probably the best thing to do. And in turn, it saves everyone else a lot of grief since I can only bitch so much about things I haven't seen and refuse to see.

Alas, some people can't help themselves. All over the internet, whenever any news about this movie comes out, the Comments are FULL of trolls saying "I can't wait to sh*t all over this thing when it comes out!" And it's like... how about NOT doing that? Like, for ONCE, can people who don't like something just Not Like It quietly? If you KNOW you're going to hate it, then just ignore it already.

I know, I know. Might as well ask the Internet to unplug itself. But man... people sure don't do a very good job walking in the spirit of Christ, that's all I gotta say.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

GM: No, WB has said that Snyder's version is basically an "Elsewords" at this point. Since Whedon's came out first and was an "official" theatrical release, then as of now that's the "mainstream" version of the movie and will remain that way.

I mean, that MIGHT change, but I don't expect it to. In the unlikely event that it makes a TON of money for HBO Max and gets an overwhelmingly positive reception - neither of which are likely if we're being completely honest - then WB could shift gears and say "Never mind, Snyder's is the new Official Version and Whedon's is the 'Elseworlds' version" but I just don't see that happening. The only real precedent is how the "Ultimate Edition" of BvS is now considered the "real" version of the movie rather than the Theatrical Cut, but it's not like that was a completely different movie as this project will be. It just turned out that the extra 30 minutes made a lot of difference to smooth out the plot and was edited a lot better, so the Theatrical Cut is considered "useless". But again, that was a Shorter vs. Longer Cut situation, not a "Two Different Versions of the Same Movie" situation.

That said, given how bad the reception was for Whedon's JL, I do expect the reception for Snyder's cut to be better simply for being coherent. MOST of the hate for Whedon's version came from being so completely the opposite of what Snyder's originally was, and the two directors' styles clashing against each other horribly. So at least Snyder's will be one consistent and coherent film rather than a patchwork quilt of two people whose styles don't mesh at all.

The theatrical cut of "Justice League" was like what would have happened if J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson "co-directed" a Star Wars movie. So if nothing else at least the Snyder version won't have that particular problem, and will at least feel like an actual sequel to the two films that preceded it.

But will it change anyone's mind? Absolutely not. People who've always either Loved or Hated Zack Snyder's DC films will feel exactly the same about this one. WB and Zack have never really even tried to convince us otherwise. Not one person who hated MoS or BvS has any reason whatsoever to even try to watch this one. And if they do watch it just so they can run around screaming "See? I KNEW I'D HATE IT!" then they're willfully being obstinate idiots.

And there ARE a lot of those people out there, both on this forum and elsewhere, and that's incredibly irritating. Why the f*ck do people do that? "I'm gonna waste hours of my life watching something I KNEW that I'd hate, then spend even MORE time going around telling anyone who'll listen how much I hated it!" Like seriously. I didn't watch "Transformers 3 and 4" and the chick "Ghostbusters" movie because I thought I'd like them; I KNEW I wouldn't. My f*cking wife forced me to or else I'd never have watched them. To this day, I STILL have not seen either BayTurtles movie in their entirety and I don't ever plan to. I'm not watching "Birds of Prey" or "Ragnarok" in this lifetime unless my wife makes me OR someone has a gun to my head. I don't willingly watch things I already know I'm going to hate, just so I can spew snarky bile on the internet about just how awful they are. Not habitually. I watched ONE episode of "Rise of the TMNT", so I could claim that "I gave it a chance", and all I learned from that experiment was, "I don't NEED to give everything a chance", and that trusting my gut when something screams at me to avoid it is probably the best thing to do. And in turn, it saves everyone else a lot of grief since I can only bitch so much about things I haven't seen and refuse to see.

Alas, some people can't help themselves. All over the internet, whenever any news about this movie comes out, the Comments are FULL of trolls saying "I can't wait to sh*t all over this thing when it comes out!" And it's like... how about NOT doing that? Like, for ONCE, can people who don't like something just Not Like It quietly? If you KNOW you're going to hate it, then just ignore it already.

I know, I know. Might as well ask the Internet to unplug itself. But man... people sure don't do a very good job walking in the spirit of Christ, that's all I gotta say.

To be fair, most of those people do it for the clicks, they know JL is gonna be big news once it's released so they'll hatewatch it anyway and make a video with them making an exagerated face and the words 'IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT' all over it.

[Andrew NDB]

I think the reception to the Snyder Cut on HBO Max MAY impact future DCEU stuff... on HBO Max. But that's about it, and that's pretty optimistic.

Though I'm kind of worried the Flash movie is going to... how should I put this. You know how so often we know a big, interesting movie is coming? And we all come up with a dozen or more really compelling theories as to what happens and where things go from there? With Flash I'm really thinking everything people are speculating will happen in terms of "this will refurbish the DCEU!" and "it will introduce the Multiverse in an organic way!"... it's going to kind of do none of those things and just be whack.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

GM: No, WB has said that Snyder's version is basically an "Elsewords" at this point. Since Whedon's came out first and was an "official" theatrical release, then as of now that's the "mainstream" version of the movie and will remain that way.

Quite true, hell the Superman II that's almost always repeated on TV remains the Lester Cut, because it was the official theatrical version, and Donner's version remains very much a novelty exclusive to DVD

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Quite true, hell the Superman II that's almost always repeated on TV remains the Lester Cut, because it was the official theatrical version, and Donner's version remains very much a novelty exclusive to DVD

To be fair? Also, what WB says? It changes every day.