New Exorcist trilogy

[Andrew NDB]

And it's mostly a sequel to the original, but it does not ignore 2-3 or Dominion.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/400m-ex...-at-universal/

But yeah... start off by hoping to make a trilogy? That's never gone badly ever...

[neatoman]

What exactly is the point of not just greenlighting one new sequel but three? Whatever happened to "Let's make a sequel and then see if it's worth making another one"? For something like Spider-Man I get it, there's like 60 years worth of monthly comics to work with and adaptations have been proven successful most of the time. With the Excorcist I don't really get it, there are only two books and the first movie adaptation is really the only one people care about.

Anyway, my mom was so scared watching the Excorcist she has refused to ever watch it again. Of course, she was probably like 10-12 when she watched it... So I doubt she'd be that scared again, since she doesn't consider Alien that scary in comparison. Then again, Dad refuses to watch Alien again and he saw it at 18. So I really don't know what's going on with them...

[IMJ]

A lot of these studios should maybe outline for a trilogy, but only get into the public details of a first movie until it's proven a success.

I haven't sat through the Exorcist flicks in some time though! I remember that damn statue scene in the nursing home hallway was creepy as hell though... I think it was Part 3 maybe?

Ugh. shudders thinking about it

[AquaParade]

As someone who adores the original, my first reaction to hearing that it's going to be remade and "pimped out" as a trilogy is to recoil. Sounds bad.
Something about horror, especially, seems antithetical to the idea of announcing sequel plans, though I may need to ruminate on that some more.

On the other hand, I can't think of any fantastic, modern, epics of horror. That could be cool. Imagine if this guy can pull of something new and different that we've never really seen done in the horror genre before. I'll remain open-minded for now, but I'll be watching closely and will be easily turned off.

I've never counted on this movie being remade. The original is still one of the most frightening movies of all time, so I can take this or leave it. I hope for something great, and if it's not, I'll watch the original for the tenth time. Seriously, if you're a fan of horror, the original is a must-see.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Something about horror, especially, seems antithetical to the idea of announcing sequel plans, though I may need to ruminate on that some more.

I can sort of see what you are saying here, but it's hard to put your finger on....

It's like where authentic "horror" material just has the solid story that delivers the horror elements because the wonderment of the "scare" should be primary amidst the "vibe" of that world. But when you delve further into a "trilogy" or some kind of marketing enhancement then the purity of the "horror" is diluted and you are left with something more akin to scary science fiction.

Something amidst trying to figure that out is akin to why Japanese horror translated so well into American horror films for a short while in the early 2000's. It was like, quieter horror with pensive build-ups into some truly scary $#!( whereas something like "A Quiet Place" has fleshed out alien invasion background and whatnot, but in doing so has crossed over into suspense or sci-fi or something like that. On the other hand, you have the Conjuring flicks which are working with all of the sequels because those are sort of building a timeline over what could be a massively long movie.....

[AquaParade]

yeah,I think you're onto something.

I really like the horror films A24 has been producing though.

[Leo656]

It's such a weird thing to bring back anyway because 1. Times have changed, and 2. The original hasn't aged well at all.

I went to go see it when it was re-released in theaters like 20 years ago and half the people in the theater were laughing their asses off. Most people under 40 watch it like it's a comedy.

It originally came out when people had strong religious faith and "Satanic Panic" was everywhere. Nowadays, most people are Atheists, or at least Agnostic, and so the original film's appeal of "Man, what if this were real?!" just seems silly to most people. The premise just doesn't fly. And if you remove that conceit from the original, then yeah, it's a very silly movie.

I'unno. I'm one of those people who doesn't necessarily believe in God but can accept that stuff like that exists for the sake of a fictional story. But I feel like the whole "This is real... kinda" conceit was a huge part of the original movie's success, and it'd be impossible to replicate that now in today's environment.

No reason it can't be "just" a decent horror movie, I guess. But the thing that distinguished it from a million other horror movies is... well, it's gone.

It's also dumb when people plan for a trilogy sight-unseen. HOPE for a trilogy, then make one good movie with room for sequels if you get lucky.

[AquaParade]

Oh, man I totally think the original holds up. If that movie isn't scary, I don't know which is. Certainly nothing recent, excluding a small handful of A24 films.

What films do you think are scary?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Oh, man I totally think the original holds up. If that movie isn't scary, I don't know which is. Certainly nothing recent, excluding a small handful of A24 films.

I do too... it's just a simple set piece with a horrific premise and great execution. The claustrophobia of being in that bed room with a pea-soup spitting, skin-peeling little goblin girl is like... ugh, OMG. Great flick.

Originally Posted by AquaParade

What films do you think are scary?

The first Ring flick was solid.
Pulse was surprisingly great horror that transitioned into a catastrophe flick in the end and didn't lose it's through-line.
30 Days of Night did vampires well....
The Grudge was good, Ju-On is worth watching even though the production values are like.... "kid in white makeup".
I don't think it's "horror" unless the suspense and atmosphere are more psychological. Like... maybe only the first Nightmare on Elm Street flick was horror. After that? Superhero movies, lmao!
I love zombie flicks, but those are rarely horror.
I actually thought Light's Out was pretty good. I was surprised that never got a sequel.
Event Horizon was great.
The old Amityville Horror flick was solid. The Shining was good.


Oh geeze - okay so get this.... the boss here has managed to get our Netflix account populated with - usually awful foreign films. She's always watching them..... But the other day we watched.... I think it was called "Blood Red Sky". At first I was like... terrible. But as I sat through and man they did some truly monstrous, 30 Days of Nights, Nosferatu style vampires. Check that flick out.

I can't stand Horror flicks about killer hicks though. The Hills Have Eyes and Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I hate that stuff. It's just @$$holes. @$$holes don't scare me - I'd hunt them. Hate killer hick flicks. An old ex-GF of mine loved all of the Rob Zombie stuff - awful. Had to sit through all of them - awful. We did get to meet Captain Spaulding though - he was a cool guy.

[Andrew NDB]

The 2nd Nightmare on Elm Street was definitely horror. The rest, you may have a point.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The 2nd Nightmare on Elm Street was definitely horror. The rest, you may have a point.

Oh yeah... yeah that's probable true.
I edited the $#!( out of that post above and added a bunch of stuff that this thread got my gears turning on... lmao

[IMJ]

The Paranormal Activity flicks were pretty good - not usually a fan of "found footage" or stationary camera movies, but those were well done.

Remember when those were like - an annual event, like the Saw movies? What happened to that franchise?

[Leo656]

Aside from the stupid comedy bits the studio forced into it to lighten the mood, the original "Last House on the Left" is pretty scary, I think, on account of the fact that stuff like that actually happens in real life ALL the time.

I've only seen bits of "Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer", but that'd be another one.

I'm at the point now where "supernatural" type of horror movies don't scare me, and I look at them the same way I do action movies, just from another angle. "It's fake, this could never really happen", so there's a disconnect there. They can definitely still be entertaining movies, but they can't actually "scare" me.

What scares me in movies nowadays is stuff that's not only plausible, but actually can and does happen. Stuff like that sticks with me; stuff like ghosts and goblins and demons might as well be Grimm's Fairy Tales.

"The Poughkeepsie Tapes". THAT was a f*cking twisted movie. That one stayed with me for days.

[AquaParade]

That I get. Horror is subjective. It’s the same way slasher films do nothing for me. But if supernatural works for you, then Exorcist is the gold standard and not really watched as a comedy by anyone interested in the genre, generally speaking.

I’ll check out Last House on the Left. I’m always looking for something scary and I do appreciate the stuff that could actually happen in real life.

Saint Maud was a recent film, that was very eerie. It’s a subdued film and while it touches on supernatural stuff, it’s also completely grounded in reality.

[Leo656]

The sh*tty thing about "Last House on the Left", is that it was SO graphic and horrific that the studio forced in some comedy bits or else they wouldn't release it. So like there's these bumbling cops who keep showing up and every time they do they play this goofy circus music. It's terrible.

This stuff gets spliced in-between extremely graphic scenes of stuff like one girl forcibly going down on another girl while her friends disembowel her and play Cats' Cradle with her intestines.

To say it's a jarring disconnect would be an understatement. But the Keystone Kops bullsh*t was the only way the studio would release it without an X Rating. It definitely drags the movie down but the rest of it holds up.

Definitely one of Wes Craven's better films. I just always feel like I need to prepare people for that crammed-in goofy nonsense because otherwise it's very jarring.

"The Poughkeepsie Tapes", though... there's NOTHING goofy about THAT f*cking movie. Very high recommendation. I don't typically like "found footage" stuff, or at least I only like it selectively, but it works very well in this context as a fake documentary.

[Cowabung-Gal]

So….

“Believer” was complete woke garbage that nobody could stomach:

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So….

“Believer” was complete woke garbage that nobody could stomach:

https://media.tenor.com/S4TcO6Mtq9gA...cist-vomit.gif

It sounds like it's a real mess. The studio paid 400 million to get the rights to make their trilogy... but now they're already talking about if they make movie #2, they'll probably use a different writer and director and do a "different direction."

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So….

“Believer” was complete woke garbage that nobody could stomach:

https://media.tenor.com/S4TcO6Mtq9gA...cist-vomit.gif

No shocker there

[IMJ]

Yup. I was looking forward to seeing this, but then read some review somewhere that went on about how the mom apparently rants that she couldn't be part of her daughter's exorcism because of the "patriarchy" and immediately was out of paying for that.

I can't believe how stupid humanity has become that a line like that would even remotely be written into an exorcism movie - like.... "are you a priest??!" Hello?

Where are the wokesters once again? It must be the isms and the ists who bought the anti-tickets once again for this one to fail, right? Their gonna take on the whole world.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Yup. I was looking forward to seeing this, but then read some review somewhere that went on about how the mom apparently rants that she couldn't be part of her daughter's exorcism because of the "patriarchy" and immediately was out of paying for that.

I wonder, though, if that was making fun of the thing and not just... the thing. This same writer/director made Halloween Kills essentially as a stealth rebuttal to the BLM riots, with Halloween Ends as a statement against cancel culture.