Texas

[robertfiduciary]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...-to-sue-509244

Hours after justices issued their 5-4 decision early Thursday, top Republicans in Florida, Arkansas and South Dakota said they were examining how the law’s unique “private right of action” enforcement structure could be used for look-alike abortion bans in their own states.

Dear Republican Men of the The Technodrome,

Could you please explain to me how you can support a party that supports actions that are so clearly anti-women, so clearly designed to keep women "in their place" as this does?

You talk about how terrible Democrats are. How awful Joe Biden is. That's fine. You certainly have that right (this is, after all, America).

However, no one on the left, no Democrat supports a ban on abortions at six weeks (few women even know they're pregnant at six weeks!).

So, yeah. I'm genuinely curious. It is "cool" to hate on Democrats because it allows you to ignore the fact that you support a political party that hates on women, on women's right to choose?

If you could please explain this... what's the word I'm looking for here? I want to say "duplicity," but I'm not sure that's it.

Explain how you can support a party that obviously harbors some sort of resentment, some type of hate, for half of it's citizens (women).

I'm not... I just don't get it? I mean, maybe I *do* get it. I certainly *suspect* what might be behind it. But I don't know for sure.

To quote the great Sherlock Holmes, "Data! Data! Data! I can't make bricks without clay."

Please, kind sirs, give me some clay for my bricks. Explain yourself in a way that I, a dumb liberal (who believes in the Equal Rights Amendment, that women should be paid the same amount as men for doing the same job, that the choices of a women's body should be between her and her Doctor. The list goes on and on...) could easily understand.

Thanks for your time, and your input. I really would like to understand. And right now, I just don't.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm definitely all for abortion. I wish there was more of it, maybe even mandated in some cases. But they'll never stamp out abortion entirely or will even come close... and plus, that's only one thing. Some mild restrictions on abortion vs. the straight up facism, outright racism, identity politics, weaponizing of the arts, marxist indoctrination of our children, and anti-free speech of the left? I'll take the former every time.

[robertfiduciary]

Wow. Okay. Interesting, thanks.

Interesting, and a little telling. "Some mild restrictions" is pretty dismissive of what's happening / will happen to women throughout Texas. And what could very well happen in other Republican run states.

This is a long-game play to repeal Roe v Wade. Like I said, it's a move to keep women "in their place." Knocked up, in the kitchen, out of the workplace, and less of a "threat" to (IMO) emotionally immature men.

I've not got the time to go through that litany of "whataboutism" that you use as your defense. What about "straight up facism, outright racism," etc etc. You're more than welcome to claim those things. I certainly don't agree (obviously).

But I will just say this. You mention the "anti-free speech of the left." You are aware that every. Single. Place. That the Right has claimed their "right" to free speech has been infringed upon is a privately owned business, right? Facebook doesn't owe anyone but their shareholders s*it. Same goes with Twitter. Any privately owned company that is in the business of making as much money as they possibly can can set their terms of service as they deem fit. And if they don't like certain content, guess what?

Bye, bye content.

It's pretty rich that anyone on the right is still trying to claim "censorship." I went down the rabbithole to figure out where that Taliban helicopter "news" story / video thing you thought was fit to share started from.

And surprise, surprise. That little juicy piece of misinformation, that nugget of right-wing propoganda's viral spread can be traced by to one Senator Rafael "Ted" Cruz, of Texas.

And where did he post it, footloose and censor-free?

Oh, yeah. That's right.

On Twitter.

Thank you for the discussion. It gave me a bit to think about.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm definitely all for abortion. I wish there was more of it. But they'll never stamp out abortion entirely or will even come close... and plus, that's only one thing. Some mild restrictions on abortion vs. the straight up facism, outright racism, identity politics, weaponizing of the arts, marxist indoctrination of our children, and anti-free speech of the left? I'll take the former every time.

[Powder]

So, which banned user returning to the forum are you?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Powder

So, which banned user returning to the forum are you?

Was thinkin' the same thing.

[CyberCubed]

Why the hell do people keep coming to a TMNT forum of all things to discuss politics? What exactly attracts these people to a Ninja Turtles forum?

[Andrew NDB]

Only one person ever did that around here (got banned and came back with an alt, not posting in any TMNT topics but coming straight to the political stuff) that I'm aware of.

TommyT.

[ToSte]

Anyone who gets excited about having abortions is probably not the type of person that would make a good parent anyway.

[Mayhem]

What happened when the UK legalised abortion but it remained illegal in Ireland? Women flew here in the 60s to get it done instead. So if Roe vs Wade does somehow get "repealed" expect a whole load of folks going to Mexico instead.

This precident is worrying. Quite frankly I'm a bit disappointed in how the US has withdrawn from Texas and let the Taliban take over.

Being serious here though, basically to echo the sentiments of the OP, quite frankly it's shocking how narrow minded insecure men are aiming to control what women can do all in the name of an invisible person in the sky.

[frank_one]

Originally Posted by ToSte

Anyone who gets excited about having abortions is probably not the type of person that would make a good parent anyway.

Better an abortion than a poor child you cannot raise.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Better an abortion than a poor child you cannot raise.

There are people out there who arent poor and still cant raise a child properly.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Powder

So, which banned user returning to the forum are you?

Originally Posted by Leo656

Was thinkin' the same thing.

Last night I would've been post #3 in the thread, but I thought the same thing and just didn't bother.....

I wouldn't have even talked about abortion anyway, but rather O.P's assumed "anti-woman" straw-man position and headspace.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Why the hell do people keep coming to a TMNT forum of all things to discuss politics? What exactly attracts these people to a Ninja Turtles forum?

Honest assessment in answering your question?

It's mostly disingenuous conversation. That is to say conversation from a small group of loud but uninformed people that need the sense of self-importance so they dig in on "political conversation" in a place like this where they feel that they can rise to the top. You aren't going to see a lot of these Dromers in MBA circles or with real political science backgrounds, but here they can boost their egos and self-righteousness and think they'll be on top. Two of the women here do it all the time and Voltron used to do it.

Basically it's where Little Leaguers can post like Big Leaguers and think they'll out-compete the locals. The soft-background, armchair political posting I see here from the raging liberal lefties is self-serving - it's basically coming here to rule in hell instead of serving in heaven.

That's the real psychology about many of the rage-bait, virtue-posting here. It's poodles who got snipped at by Rottweilers in real life so they come here thinking they can snip at squirrels and look like top dogs. It's fifth-grade thinkers who learned that they can sound informed by challenging an idea by asking for sources, not as a curiosity measure, but as an argument measure, on a Turtles forum.

That's it. All of those words there are designed to answer your question and clearly illustrate the behavior patterns. That's it. -shrugs- I started by saying that a lot of the social-justice and political posting is disingenuous. That's because it's presented as some kind of "informed morality that outshines their posting peers" but in fact it's self-serving ego-boosting from the deepest pool of nerdom (hence my routine use of "Napolean Dynamite" here). It's the "life-angry" with health problems like circulation issues, gout and joint pain that was really caused by their own lifestyle choices. But you know... the world is unfair for their life-pain and it's not their fault so they will post on a TMNT forum about it because this is the bottom of the ocean here.

So there you go, Cubed. I just gave you the keys to the Corvette, buddy. Drive carefully.

[The Deadman]

Yeah the OP is definitely either someone who's been here before or they've been lurking for months and waited for the right time to come on here and go "you republican Dromers".

[1987]

gotta at least give you credit for acknowledging that only WOMEN can give birth, not men, not transgenders, not “birthing persons”,... most leftists can’t even do that, until now when it suits the narrative.

planned parenthood has been killing black babies for years. margaret sanger was on a mission to exterminate the african american population.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/5480192002/

dr fauci benefits from abortion by organ harvesting aborted minorities

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...an-harvesting/

after 18 months of medical martial law, lockdowns, fear mongering, fascism, vaccine coercion, force-masking by the left, now suddenly they are pro choice again?

[IndigoErth]

Dark horse coming in and leaving these old ponies with a remaining "Trumpie mark" brand on their butt without much to say.

[ABrown]

"ABORTIONS FOR ALL!!!"



I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[AquaParade]

I'm generally of the mind that there should be less government restrictions and more personal choice. That essentially covers abortion.

At the same time, it's not something I necessarily condone to the extent it has been casualized and encouraged. It certainly has it's time and place, but I think it's been taken beyond that.

Therefore, I'm not about to get up in arms about it. Not saying I've got all the answers, but that's where I'm at.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I'm generally of the mind that there should be less government restrictions and more personal choice. That essentially covers abortion.

This is my position on most things almost exactly - at least of concepts of deeply personal choice.

Basically if you believe it's a viable choice, then you evaluate the decision and live with the emotional consequences if you experience them. If you don't believe in it, then avoid it and live with the consequences of your actions.

Simple as that.

But I'm also deeply against the kind of idiot like the O.P. who posts things with presumptive straw man points that lead conversation with a premise of assumed syntax - e.g. "why do you Republicans agree with oppressing women?" That conversation starter is a disingenuous lie. Quite frankly if every f'er like that dropped dead on Earth I'd be absolutely cool with it. F'n @$$hat.

[AquaParade]

Yeah, I hear you on that.

Someone could probably use the slippery slope argument against me, in this case by the way. So if pressed, then I suppose I am pro choice.

I mean, I think it’s pretty ****ed up the way it can be encouraged and abused, but I also don’t feel it’s my place to judge others or decide they should be punished for it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I mean, I think it’s pretty ****ed up the way it can be encouraged

Oh, I wish it was encouraged way more. These are rookie numbers... we need to pump them up.