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I don't think a lot of people liked whatever seasons 9-10 did and its characters. And I doubt they've helped to sell a lot of toys. Yes, show was around for three more years, but was it? It was unrecognizable, with only 8 episodes per season, no memorable characters or stories, arcs that were constantly introduced and aborted for no reason and rather boring new artstyle. It was more of a life support than full-fleshed existence at this point an d it was fairly pointless, considering that majority of the people barely acknowledge RSS. |
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I was the perfect age for the red sky season when I first saw it. I didn’t even know what the hell I was looking at, but was utterly captivated. All I knew what that it was a darker version of the cartoon I was used to. It just popped up on tv one Thanksgiving at my grandparents.
This was before I had internet, so the elusiveness of that episode haunted me for a long time. You know how it was back in the day when you had no resources to track these things down. It was everything I wanted out of TMNT, at that young age. I had some Mirage comics and the movie, so I knew tmnt could be a little darker than the cartoon, but nonetheless. By the time I discovered what it was, my tastes had developed, and it didn’t attract me anymore. |
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First viewed the red sky era in 1999 on a random rerun on the BRAVO channel. I was confused, yet interested, since the channel was so used to repeating the stuff from seasons 2-3.
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I wasn't aware of these episodes and seasons until I re-discovered the TMNT with the Internet, starting some weeks before Christmas, in mid-December 2003 I think. But it took a couple of years until I was able to watch them.
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Again, we're not talking "creative" decisions, we're talking "How do you try to sustain a billion-dollar franchise for just a little longer" decisions. You never leave money on the table, you squeeze the tit until it's bleeding. I don't have the toy sales numbers in front of me, but at that point, if they sold any significant numbers at all, I'm sure they were more than happy to take it. Even one dollar coming in from a franchise that by rights should've been dead by 1993 was a victory. And I'm sure it was more than that, while still far from what they made in 1990. But again, I don't think anyone at all was expecting 1990 levels of "success" in 1993. The attempt to retrofit FW into a Batman: TAS or X-Men: TAS clone was haphazard but it was a success by the standards of which they were going for. That being, "Let's just try and keep it going a little longer since it's been such a huge money-maker for us." It worked, by any objective measure. It "helped" plenty of people. Such as, the fans who were still just happy the toys and show still existed at all, and most importantly, the people making money off the brand, who got to keep making money for an extra two-plus years. It's like, I hate the "Back to the Sewers" seasons of the 4Kids show a whole bunch. They "ruined" the show for me the way Red Sky "ruined" FW for a lot of people. BUT, they succeeded at what they attempted to do - keep the show on the air a little longer and keep selling more toys, long after the show had run out of steam creatively. Same exact thing, same exact results. Right down to a lot of existing fans not liking it. Definitely wasn't what I wanted to see, but it worked for what 4Kids and Playmates wanted it to do. "Red Sky", same thing. |
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Again, we're not talking "creative" decisions, we're talking "How do you try to sustain a billion-dollar franchise for just a little longer" decisions. You never leave money on the table, you squeeze the tit until it's bleeding. [/QUOTE]
But I don't think it was popular enough to squeeze anything out of it. And retooling killed the last shards of what made it popular. Quote:
And, even though, I wasn't around, when season 8-10 premiered, I won't be happy with such radical shift in, well, everything about the show I liked. Maybe I would have been even more pissed off, since when I was a kid Shredder and Krang were my favorite characters in the show and Seasons 8-10 mostly replaced them with some generic and boring no-names. |
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Russian airdates
I don't know how many episodes you caught when they first aired in Russia, but here are the Russian airdates.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1...B7%D1%8F%C2%BB |
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Also, I don't see where it lists first broadcast in Russia. It lists only first broadcasts in US. Original Russian broadcast has started in 1993 with an "Epic Begins". Then they've broadcasted seasons 4-7 up until 1995. Last edited by Sumac; 10-03-2021 at 12:30 PM. |
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Russian page says Season 10 was not broadcasted in Russia up until 2013. I can personally assure you that it was not broadcasted in 2000 and 2001-2003, as I watched TMNT almost every day and I would've remembered completely new episodes being broadcasted. |
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I never saw all of the red sky episodes. But I did think it was stupid to make Dimension-X space look like everywhere else.
I say release Revenge of the Shredder on a new Season 10 disc for the 35th anniversary of the 1987 series. Now it appears that searching for that unaired episode brings up the video game instead. |
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I thought there was an unaired episode called Revenge of the Shredder. I think it was Cybercubed that mentioned it looking for a character called Wyrm. That was years ago so maybe there isn't such an unaired episode. Maybe I just remember wrong.
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