Forget rare, how about some of the non-existent figures?

*tmntman* · 11-11-2003, 07:40 PM

Ok, so we have talked about which figures are tough to find. Now which figures/items never made it to shelves? Has anyone ever seen any of these beyond the promo pics from Playmates?

1991
Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 (the Foot monster truck)
Turtle Shell backpack (a figure case that straps to your back)
Giant April (I heard that this got as far a the prototype stage)

1992
Sidewalk Surfer ( a repaint of a toxic crusader sailboard)
Retromutagen Rifle (a role playing rifle with attached ninja weapons)
Turtle Popcan Racer
TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball

1993
Muta-Party Wagon (a Turtlevan that transformed into a Metalhead-esque robot)
Giant Movie III Don and Mike

1994
*My personal Holy Grails* Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike (these were protyped and Mike even made it onto cardbacks on later shipments into Canada)
Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat
Giant Cyber Sanurai (a 12" motorized item)
Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles (Rat Fink style versions of the turtle van and Mutant Module)
Movie Sewer Subway Car ( a playset based on the subway car from the 2nd movie)

1995
Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports (the first five sets were common, but later sets such as the Tank and Muscle Cars are rare and there were 10 to 15 other sets planned including monster trucks and jet boats.)
Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station
Team Ninja assortments (a strange cross between TMNT, Power Rangers and Superhuman Cyber Samurai)
Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop (I don't even know if these made it out in Japan)
Metal Mutant War Horse (a vac-metal gold version of the Movie III Warhorse)
Jim Lee version Leonardo
Rahzar with fur
Special Sewer Forces (repaints of some of the military figures)
Warrior Bebop (metal yellow version of robotic Bebop. This one might have come out, but I've never seen one)

1998
Dr Quease
TMNT:tnm Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures

Ninjatron · 11-11-2003, 09:55 PM

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Muta-Party Wagon (a Turtlevan that transformed into a Metalhead-esque robot)

Man, I want that SO bad. That thing is awesome.

I remember there being a few Next Mutation figures that didn't make it. I'm not sure if they are the same ones that you listed. There were two Turtleflage figures with vehicles, Leo and Don with some sort of personal watercrafts, where the figure was fully painted in the same kind of camo-esque pattern that the vehicle was, with the gimmick being that the turtles couldn't be deciphered from their vehicles.

There were rumors about other figures, like another Dragon Lord that actually had the fully sculpted face rather than the mask that the costume was originaly going to have.

That Dr Quease figure was pretty decent, too bad it didn't see a release. And the Vam Mi figure was pretty hard to find.

Sayonara.

SkaterMike · 11-11-2003, 09:56 PM

I cant help you out with much on the list, but I do have the Tank from the 1995 minis. I never thought that it was rare, since I've never been too serious of a tmnt toy collector, just a big fan. Heres a pic from the official site:

Sorry I can't post pics of mine, (no digital camera or server

), but I do have it, minus the radar on top of the tank (damn moving across the country a few years ago

)

*VaughnMichael* · 11-12-2003, 12:59 AM

you had to go and do it tmntman lol!
I'm so gonna have dare i say wet toy dreams now lol sorry if thats a bit much but god
that list is just to much for me I used to have photos of all of them I need to hunt down those old toy magazines and find the photos of those toys I am sure dan berger has them he's prolly got easy acces to playmates photos...
sigh god theres even more things that never came out and it just makes me so sad they tease us like that lol...
Vaughn Michael

TMNTGal · 11-12-2003, 01:11 AM

1991
Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 - I know I've seen this. Bebop is on the box. I know I have a photo somewhere.
Turtle Shell BackPack - There's at least a prototype of this item. You can see a kid wearing it in one of the Playmates toy catalogues.
Giant April - Never heard of a prototype, the Playmates catalogues I've seen only showed concept art.

1992
Sidewalk Surfer - Released a Mike's Sidewalk Surfer. I know I've seen this too. I have to find the photos.
Retromutagen Rifle - You can see it in the Playmated catalogue but I doubt it saw a release. I've never seen one.
Turtle Popcan Racer - Wasn't this a rumor? I've seen no mention of this in the catalogues.
TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball - never released

1993
Muta-Party Wagon - This was awesome, you can see it in full color in the catalogue. Too bad it wasn't released.
Giant Movie III Don and Mike - What was up with that? These should have been released, Playmates is wacky.

1994
Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike - The painted protos are extremely nice.
Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it.
Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this?
Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles - Never heard of this either.
Movie Sewer Subway Car - Nor this. Were these in a catalogue?

1995
Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports - There are several that are difficult to find.
Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station - This was released
Team Ninja assortments - This seems unlikely. Where did this info come from?
Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop - These never saw a release, I don't think they made proto either.
Metal Mutant War Horse - Never heard of this either.
Jim Lee version Leonardo - I don't think this was planned. They just decided to release another Dragon instead of Leo. I thought that was stupid. I liked Leo's red costume.
Rahzar with fur - Protos exist but was never released. This was a good idea too bad it didn't go anywhere.
Special Sewer Forces - Protos exist for these too. The catalogue shows photos. No release for these either.
Warrior Bebop - I think this did come out. I saw one in an eBay lot once, but the listing was cancelled. I remember the yellow chrome. I can't say 100% though, it was quite some time ago.

1998
Dr Quease - I'd love to find a proto of this.
TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures - I remember seeing concept art for these on the website. Damn, If I had only saved the photos... They looked very cool.

Also, one catalogue had the cutest assortment of disguised plush!!! The only Disguides plush I know was released was Santa Raph since I have it.

- Undercover Raph W/Trenchcoat
- Soldier Mike
- Karate Master Leo
- Farmer Don
- Surfer Mike
- Splinter
- Bebop
- Rocksteady

I'd give anything to aquire these, especially the Leo. They are the cutest things you've ever seen. *melts into puddle*

Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-12-2003, 03:04 AM

1.Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this?
this was talked about at toy fair the one year they had a photo of it in one of the toy books.....it was robotic and it came with a romote controll god it was so awsome...]
2.Movie Sewer Subway Car
this was mentioned in the same magazine
3.Team Ninja assortments
I used to have a photo of these bad boys also from the same isue at toy fair! god I wish i had svaed those toy mags now....grrr...
4.Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop
I also used to have pictures of these from the same magazine...
5.Metal Mutant War Horse
also in the same magazine lol
6.Jim Lee version Leonardo
also in that isue lol
7.Dr Quease
god me and you both sista lol
8. TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures
I actully had proto pictures of these from the same toy magazine lol god I must go find that magazine again!
9.Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka
lmao that al;ways made me so mad as a kid them doing that to good old slashy poo! i'm not exactly sure what you are talking about here though so I can't answere that one
Vaughn Michael

*tmntman* · 11-12-2003, 07:43 AM

All of the items on the list came from the Playmates' catalogs for that year. Years ago I managed to collect each of the Toy Fair catalogs that are handed out via Ebay. They are really nice with great pics of all of the products.

(I still like the proto pics of the Turtlevan with a trap door on the front so the driver and bombs could be dumped out of the vehicle. I'm guess this idea got canned since whatever character was dumped out would be dropped right in front of the 'moving' vehicle. Perhapse the Turtles were worried about car jackers?)

Shellfox · 11-12-2003, 12:54 PM

I actually have pics of all the Turtleflage/Villians NM figures from a old issue of Toy Fare.

I'm pretty sure Quese was released since I swear I saw him at one store with Turtleflage Venus, but I only saw them once, still wish I had bought them

evil_henchmen · 11-12-2003, 02:19 PM

I am pretty sure the WOTFS figures were called Knight Leo and Spell Caster Splinter. These are by far my two favorite TMNT prototypes and hopefully will own them someday.

TMNT4LIFE · 11-12-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTGal

1995

Warrior Bebop - I think this did come out. I saw one in an eBay lot once, but the listing was cancelled. I remember the yellow chrome. I can't say 100% though, it was quite some time ago.

Maybe it was just a regular Robotic Bebop and because of the way the light hit the photo it made it look yellow.

I thought I saw a Yellow Warrior Bebop in a lot before but I asked the seller for upclose pics of it and it turned out to be the silver robotic version.

The light can sometimes make the chrome look a different color.

TMNTGal · 11-12-2003, 03:54 PM

Putrescent, you have to find this magazine.

Tokkas Battle Fun set was another dress up set. It includes a Black Mask attached to a plastic nose, elbow & knee pads, a black belt, hand attachments that look like Slash's claw things, and some throwing stars. I'll get a scan and post it later tonight.

Correction, it was Knight Mike.

Here's a photo.

WOTFS Prototypes

TMNT4LIFE, it's possible I was mistaken but I believe there was a coin in the package. All of the chrome was yellow and the color was different in places. I can't say for sure since It was only a glance.

TMNT4LIFE · 11-12-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMNTGal

TMNT4LIFE, it's possible I was mistaken but I believe there was a coin in the package. All of the chrome was yellow and the color was different in places. I can't say for sure since It was only a glance.

Well I guess we will never know. Somebody else on here should have seen one by now but I do agree that it was probably made and is going to be VERY tough to find.

I have seen Knight Mike on the back of some Canadian backings so maybe that one slipped out. Or just wishful thinking on my part.

evil_henchmen · 11-12-2003, 08:16 PM

Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it.

TMNTGal-

Who owns this prototype? If you choose not to disclose the info i completely understand. I ony know of one guy who has lots of TMNT protos.

I've seen pics of alot of this stuff but some i have not. If anyone can provide some pics that would be awesome.

evil_henchmen · 11-12-2003, 08:24 PM

Forgot to mention that if anyone has Tomarts issues 94-95 they had a complete listing of virtually all vintage TMNT excluding variations. Also in issue 95 on page 51 they show a piece of concept art for the 13" April, Jim Lee Leo proto, concept art for the Turtle Popcan Racer, Sidewalk Surfer proto and concept art for Team Ninja Turtles.

*Kid Icarus* · 11-12-2003, 08:34 PM

That Splinter figure's pretty cool... Infact, that entire line would have been great.

**azure turtle** · 11-12-2003, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMNTGal

Correction, it was Knight Mike.

Here's a photo.

WOTFS Prototypes

Oh man... I remember seeing those figures before. The Knight Mike fig looks so cool. I wish Playmates would've released that.

RedFreak · 11-12-2003, 10:48 PM

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Movie Sewer Subway Car ( a playset based on the subway car from the 2nd movie)

If only there were pictures....

*VaughnMichael* · 11-13-2003, 02:14 AM

I'm going to go find those toy magazines this weekend
but tmnt gal that picture you have there is from the exact issue with all the other ones....god I love you for posting that!
also let it be know I told dan berger he should really make a proto types and unreleased tmnt page on the site he told me thats a great idea and make it a top thing to do *i'm prolly just being to hopefull though* but I hope he does it
omg tmntgal Tokkas Battle Fun did come out I saw it at a kmart when it first came out I wanted it so bad because it looked like slash but I was to emberassed to ask for it lmao! god how I wish I'd have asked *kicks self*

The_Blue_One-Leonardo
hopefully I will have one for you soon if I find one here...

also I have been told by several people Dr. Quease, warrior rahzar with fur and warrior bebop the gold one had come out...I still dont think they did I will believe it when i see it then I will pass out and then sell everything I own to get them lol
Vaughn Michael

TMNT4LIFE · 11-13-2003, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putrescent

also I have been told by several people Dr. Quease, warrior rahzar with fur and warrior bebop the gold one had come out...I still dont think they did I will believe it when i see it then I will pass out and then sell everything I own to get them lol
Vaughn Michael

I wish we had some proof those existed. If they did come out they would be by far the rarest TMNT and they'd be something I probably couldn't afford. If Scratch can sell for $250-$300 what would those 3 sell for.

evil_henchmen · 11-13-2003, 10:39 AM

I wish we had some proof those existed. If they did come out they would be by far the rarest TMNT and they'd be something I probably couldn't afford. If Scratch can sell for $250-$300 what would those 3 sell for.

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They would be priceless to the hardcore TMNT collector.

11-11-2003, 07:40 PM	#1
tmntman Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,444	Forget rare, how about some of the non-existent figures? Ok, so we have talked about which figures are tough to find. Now which figures/items never made it to shelves? Has anyone ever seen any of these beyond the promo pics from Playmates? 1991 Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 (the Foot monster truck) Turtle Shell backpack (a figure case that straps to your back) Giant April (I heard that this got as far a the prototype stage) 1992 Sidewalk Surfer ( a repaint of a toxic crusader sailboard) Retromutagen Rifle (a role playing rifle with attached ninja weapons) Turtle Popcan Racer TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball 1993 Muta-Party Wagon (a Turtlevan that transformed into a Metalhead-esque robot) Giant Movie III Don and Mike 1994 My personal Holy Grails Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike (these were protyped and Mike even made it onto cardbacks on later shipments into Canada) Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat Giant Cyber Sanurai (a 12" motorized item) Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles (Rat Fink style versions of the turtle van and Mutant Module) Movie Sewer Subway Car ( a playset based on the subway car from the 2nd movie) 1995 Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports (the first five sets were common, but later sets such as the Tank and Muscle Cars are rare and there were 10 to 15 other sets planned including monster trucks and jet boats.) Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station Team Ninja assortments (a strange cross between TMNT, Power Rangers and Superhuman Cyber Samurai) Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop (I don't even know if these made it out in Japan) Metal Mutant War Horse (a vac-metal gold version of the Movie III Warhorse) Jim Lee version Leonardo Rahzar with fur Special Sewer Forces (repaints of some of the military figures) Warrior Bebop (metal yellow version of robotic Bebop. This one might have come out, but I've never seen one) 1998 Dr Quease TMNT:tnm Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures

11-11-2003, 09:56 PM	#3
SkaterMike Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 188	I cant help you out with much on the list, but I do have the Tank from the 1995 minis. I never thought that it was rare, since I've never been too serious of a tmnt toy collector, just a big fan. Heres a pic from the official site: Sorry I can't post pics of mine, (no digital camera or server ), but I do have it, minus the radar on top of the tank (damn moving across the country a few years ago ) __________________

11-12-2003, 12:59 AM	#4
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	oh geez you had to go and do it tmntman lol! I'm so gonna have dare i say wet toy dreams now lol sorry if thats a bit much but god that list is just to much for me I used to have photos of all of them I need to hunt down those old toy magazines and find the photos of those toys I am sure dan berger has them he's prolly got easy acces to playmates photos... sigh god theres even more things that never came out and it just makes me so sad they tease us like that lol... Vaughn Michael

11-12-2003, 01:11 AM	#5
TMNTGal Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,061	1991 Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 - I know I've seen this. Bebop is on the box. I know I have a photo somewhere. Turtle Shell BackPack - There's at least a prototype of this item. You can see a kid wearing it in one of the Playmates toy catalogues. Giant April - Never heard of a prototype, the Playmates catalogues I've seen only showed concept art. 1992 Sidewalk Surfer - Released a Mike's Sidewalk Surfer. I know I've seen this too. I have to find the photos. Retromutagen Rifle - You can see it in the Playmated catalogue but I doubt it saw a release. I've never seen one. Turtle Popcan Racer - Wasn't this a rumor? I've seen no mention of this in the catalogues. TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball - never released 1993 Muta-Party Wagon - This was awesome, you can see it in full color in the catalogue. Too bad it wasn't released. Giant Movie III Don and Mike - What was up with that? These should have been released, Playmates is wacky. 1994 Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike - The painted protos are extremely nice. Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it. Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this? Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles - Never heard of this either. Movie Sewer Subway Car - Nor this. Were these in a catalogue? 1995 Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports - There are several that are difficult to find. Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station - This was released Team Ninja assortments - This seems unlikely. Where did this info come from? Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop - These never saw a release, I don't think they made proto either. Metal Mutant War Horse - Never heard of this either. Jim Lee version Leonardo - I don't think this was planned. They just decided to release another Dragon instead of Leo. I thought that was stupid. I liked Leo's red costume. Rahzar with fur - Protos exist but was never released. This was a good idea too bad it didn't go anywhere. Special Sewer Forces - Protos exist for these too. The catalogue shows photos. No release for these either. Warrior Bebop - I think this did come out. I saw one in an eBay lot once, but the listing was cancelled. I remember the yellow chrome. I can't say 100% though, it was quite some time ago. 1998 Dr Quease - I'd love to find a proto of this. TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures - I remember seeing concept art for these on the website. Damn, If I had only saved the photos... They looked very cool. Also, one catalogue had the cutest assortment of disguised plush!!! The only Disguides plush I know was released was Santa Raph since I have it. - Undercover Raph W/Trenchcoat - Soldier Mike - Karate Master Leo - Farmer Don - Surfer Mike - Splinter - Bebop - Rocksteady I'd give anything to aquire these, especially the Leo. They are the cutest things you've ever seen. melts into puddle Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka. __________________

11-12-2003, 03:04 AM	#6
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	tmntgal 1.Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this? this was talked about at toy fair the one year they had a photo of it in one of the toy books.....it was robotic and it came with a romote controll god it was so awsome...] 2.Movie Sewer Subway Car this was mentioned in the same magazine 3.Team Ninja assortments I used to have a photo of these bad boys also from the same isue at toy fair! god I wish i had svaed those toy mags now....grrr... 4.Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop I also used to have pictures of these from the same magazine... 5.Metal Mutant War Horse also in the same magazine lol 6.Jim Lee version Leonardo also in that isue lol 7.Dr Quease god me and you both sista lol 8. TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures I actully had proto pictures of these from the same toy magazine lol god I must go find that magazine again! 9.Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka lmao that al;ways made me so mad as a kid them doing that to good old slashy poo! i'm not exactly sure what you are talking about here though so I can't answere that one Vaughn Michael

11-12-2003, 07:43 AM	#7
tmntman Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,444	All of the items on the list came from the Playmates' catalogs for that year. Years ago I managed to collect each of the Toy Fair catalogs that are handed out via Ebay. They are really nice with great pics of all of the products. (I still like the proto pics of the Turtlevan with a trap door on the front so the driver and bombs could be dumped out of the vehicle. I'm guess this idea got canned since whatever character was dumped out would be dropped right in front of the 'moving' vehicle. Perhapse the Turtles were worried about car jackers?)

11-12-2003, 12:54 PM	#8
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	I actually have pics of all the Turtleflage/Villians NM figures from a old issue of Toy Fare. I'm pretty sure Quese was released since I swear I saw him at one store with Turtleflage Venus, but I only saw them once, still wish I had bought them __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

11-12-2003, 02:19 PM	#9
evil_henchmen Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 282	I am pretty sure the WOTFS figures were called Knight Leo and Spell Caster Splinter. These are by far my two favorite TMNT prototypes and hopefully will own them someday.

11-12-2003, 03:54 PM	#11
TMNTGal Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,061	Putrescent, you have to find this magazine. Tokkas Battle Fun set was another dress up set. It includes a Black Mask attached to a plastic nose, elbow & knee pads, a black belt, hand attachments that look like Slash's claw things, and some throwing stars. I'll get a scan and post it later tonight. Correction, it was Knight Mike. Here's a photo. WOTFS Prototypes TMNT4LIFE, it's possible I was mistaken but I believe there was a coin in the package. All of the chrome was yellow and the color was different in places. I can't say for sure since It was only a glance. __________________

11-12-2003, 08:16 PM	#13
evil_henchmen Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 282	Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it. TMNTGal- Who owns this prototype? If you choose not to disclose the info i completely understand. I ony know of one guy who has lots of TMNT protos. I've seen pics of alot of this stuff but some i have not. If anyone can provide some pics that would be awesome.

11-12-2003, 08:24 PM	#14
evil_henchmen Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 282	Forgot to mention that if anyone has Tomarts issues 94-95 they had a complete listing of virtually all vintage TMNT excluding variations. Also in issue 95 on page 51 they show a piece of concept art for the 13" April, Jim Lee Leo proto, concept art for the Turtle Popcan Racer, Sidewalk Surfer proto and concept art for Team Ninja Turtles.

11-12-2003, 08:34 PM	#15
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	That Splinter figure's pretty cool... Infact, that entire line would have been great.

11-13-2003, 02:14 AM	#18
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	tmntgal and everyone else I'm going to go find those toy magazines this weekend but tmnt gal that picture you have there is from the exact issue with all the other ones....god I love you for posting that! also let it be know I told dan berger he should really make a proto types and unreleased tmnt page on the site he told me thats a great idea and make it a top thing to do i'm prolly just being to hopefull though but I hope he does it omg tmntgal Tokkas Battle Fun did come out I saw it at a kmart when it first came out I wanted it so bad because it looked like slash but I was to emberassed to ask for it lmao! god how I wish I'd have asked kicks self The_Blue_One-Leonardo hopefully I will have one for you soon if I find one here... also I have been told by several people Dr. Quease, warrior rahzar with fur and warrior bebop the gold one had come out...I still dont think they did I will believe it when i see it then I will pass out and then sell everything I own to get them lol Vaughn Michael

11-13-2003, 10:39 AM	#20
evil_henchmen Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 282	Re: tmntgal and everyone else I wish we had some proof those existed. If they did come out they would be by far the rarest TMNT and they'd be something I probably couldn't afford. If Scratch can sell for $250-$300 what would those 3 sell for. [/quote] They would be priceless to the hardcore TMNT collector.