Rittenhouse/ self defense

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

although what he was doing with what looked like a high powered rifle might be another matter.

Its an AR15 which is not even remotely "high powered"... it uses .223 ammo which isn't much larger in size than a .22 which is for kids...more powder, but almost same size round.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Rosenbaum (the first death of two) was the one screaming that...and threatening people and in general “fronting” and a king aggressive through the night.

The second death I think had a felony...but he had a skateboard and bashed Rittenhouse on the head and tried to take the rifle when he was shot (I think he had a hole in his hand in a direction proving that if people didn’t trust video).

Bicept guy was a domestic abuser with a felony who was concealed carrying and had his pistol aimed at Rittenhouses head when he was shot.

Rosenbaum was shot through the hand, because he was grabbing at the rifle too. His conviction 5x over of peddling small children should matter, even if Kyle couldn't know at the time, he was saying "shoot me, n****" and "fvck you" over and over... and Kyle stated Rosenbaum said he would kill Kyle at least twice before chasing him down.

All four people who attacked Kyle were/are convicted felons. Gaige, arm spaghetti, even stated under oath, that Kyle only shot him after Gaige pointed his (illegal) firearm at Kyle. Felons are prohibited people and cannot carry. Also, I believe it was Gaige who fired the first shot prior to Kyle needing to shoot Rosenbaum.


I'm guessing the folks who think Kyle murdered these criminals are just avoiding this thread. I'm curious to know how anyone can think this is anything but self defense...

[Andrew NDB]

And apparently it was ruled perfectly legal and OK for him to carry a rifle such as the one he had, where he did and when he did. So the whole "but he wasn't supposed to carry a gun there and especially ACROSS STATE LINES!!!" is completely null and void.

It's a very strange hill to die on for libtards and I think they're increasingly realizing this. On the one hand they feel strongly about it because they're terrified of guns and want to get them outta here so we can get one big step closer to socialist utopia... but on the other, this incident really doesn't fit any of the race-based narratives they've established for shootings, despite how hard they really, really try to make it fit. The general hope is probably that most people will just see an article with Kyle Rittenhouse's picture and a headline and go, "Ugh... damn white supremacist Trumpers!" and not bother to click or read any further. At this point.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And apparently it was ruled perfectly legal and OK for him to carry a rifle such as the one he had, where he did and when he did. So the whole "but he wasn't supposed to carry a gun there and especially ACROSS STATE LINES!!!" is completely null and void.

Exactly. Not to mention, if Kyle had not been carrying, he'd likely have been raped/killed by Rosenbaum & his history would matter then... all this rioting that was allowed by democrats over a dead criminal.

[Leo656]

What a f*cking hero that George Floyd was. Hope his supporters are proud of all the violence wrought in his wake after they made him a martyr.

Imagine, if Floyd was home reading his daughter a book instead of out passing fake bills and getting high on dope, NONE of this ever could have happened.

Maybe we should stop putting junkies up on pedestals and the rest of it might just take care of itself. Worth thinking about.

Anyway, yeah, if the legal system does its job then Rittenhouse should walk.

[Bahamut810]

Kyle couldn't know at the time, he was saying "shoot me, n****" and "fvck you" over and over... and Kyle stated Rosenbaum said he would kill Kyle at least twice before chasing him down.

This is one half of the big reason all this should be over already. He established his motive to attack and kill everyone in Rittenhouse's group. The second half is that he went to enact that violence by trying to steal the gun.

All four people who attacked Kyle were/are convicted felons. Gaige, arm spaghetti, even stated under oath, that Kyle only shot him after Gaige pointed his (illegal) firearm at Kyle. Felons are prohibited people and cannot carry. Also, I believe it was Gaige who fired the first shot prior to Kyle needing to shoot Rosenbaum.

It was another party, the guy (I think his name is Grouscroitz or something like that) that tried to distract Rittenhouse while Rosenbaum came from behind, that shot the first shot in the air that caused him to turn around.

It was not just he couldnt carry from felony, his concealed carry permit was expired meaning that even if he could carry he couldn't conceal carry...which he was.

if Kyle had not been carrying, he'd likely have been raped/killed by Rosenbaum & his history would matter then...

In all seriousness, I don't think he would have sexually assaulted him. 'Just' normally assaulted or killed him. In all joking-ness, Kyle was too old.

[Bahamut810]

On topic:

[Leo656]

I also think it's funny how some of the squawking heads like those dumb hens on The View love to trot out the old "He (Rittenhouse) had no business even being there!" excuse.

I said the same thing about ol' Floyd, many times, BUT YA KNOWWWW the Libs don't like it when you flip that kinda sh*t on 'em. In THAT case, WHY Floyd was out passing fake bills and getting high instead of home with his kid was "nobody's business but his." But in THIS case, Kyle Rittenhouse "had no reason being there except to cause trouble."

It's very "interesting".

[Sumac]

I find it amusing that people who were shot and were "fighting a good fight on a right side of history" were criminals: a pedophile, a murderer, and a just a thug. Its like perfect portrayal of Left audience. All this group was needed is a transqueer nerd, who was peeping on women in bathrooms and it would have been perfect.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I find it amusing that people who were shot and were "fighting a good fight on a right side of history" were criminals: a pedophile, a murderer, and a just a thug. Its like perfect portrayal of Left audience. All this group was needed is a transqueer nerd, who was peeping on women in bathrooms and it would have been perfect.

No, because then they would have gone with the transphobic angle.

[AquaParade]

It's a fascinating trial to watch. Not to make light of it, but I may even go back and watch some other classic trials after this.

Either way, it's a sad situation on all sides. Rittenhouse, to me, seems like someone with good intentions but also doesn't seem to make the best decisions.
The men who died seem of poor character in comparison. Not to say they deserve to die - not at all.

But at the end of the day, I'm thinking he is innocent by way of self-defense. Don't attack people.

Look, I haven't been following this closely enough to make the call, so I'm not trying to play judge & jury, that's jus where I'm at right now.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm thinking regardless the reason, if you're stupid enough to run at someone telling threats and insults at someone with a gun that big (or any kind of gun to be honest) you must be tired of living. You get what you ****ing deserve.

[IMJ]

There are a significant number of units out there nowadays that the general complaining public would call "assault rifles" when in fact many of them are actually handguns with stocks and elongated barrels.

That aside, this really looks like a case of self defense. And the courts are the last bastion of upholding these intellectual virtues given what is going on in society. The manipulative members of society, the haters, and quite frankly the criminals will argue it's an unfair system. But they are disingenuous liars and they are wrong.

[oldmanwinters]

And... here we go.

[Vegita-San]

twitter is already going on about the usual white supremicist nonsense ....
and this nonsense of 'no justice, no peace' sure sounds like a threat for more violence.

here's the thing. if he deliberatly went out there looking for trouble, that's not self defense. if he was just walking around trying to get something during a riot, and got attacked that IS self defense.

the video could have been edited to make it look like one, or the other and no one is happy.

the first thing I saw, was him being attacked by a gang and having what looked like a hand gun go off after someone grabbed it. that clearly looked like self defense. but if he had what LOOKED like a high powered rifle that the attorney held in court, and was just walking around waiting for something to happen, that IMHO, opens it up to a whole other discussion.

[vicsavage]

This place is starting to look indistinguishable from Stormfront.

[Coola Yagami]

The more I look into it, it was self defense and never should have made it to court. Now we sit back and watch the kid sue the literal **** out of everyone.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The more I look into it, it was self defense and never should have made it to court. Now we sit back and watch the kid sue the literal **** out of everyone.

It was clearly self-defense. Anyone who says otherwise given all of the information out there about this is either a hater & manipulator or an idiot of the highest order.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by vicsavage

This place is starting to look indistinguishable from Stormfront.

had to look up what the hell that was. is this voltron reborn?

ahh, twitter. never fail to disappoint. Why is black lives matter trending? he shot three white criminals IIRC.

[Coola Yagami]

Cause everything, no matter what, has to be about race.