New Ghostbusters movie in OG movie universe Jason Reitman directing 2020

[Turo602]

I just finished watching the first 2 films last night and I definitely wouldn't consider them comedies... I mean, yeah, they have comedic actors and it's quirky and has lots of humor in it, but when I think of a comedy, I think of something more like Dumb and Dumber or Step Brothers. Y'know, movies that solely exist to make you laugh and there's nothing overtly hilarious about Ghostbusters. I would liken it more to the MCU than a full on comedy. But I guess people do often criticize MCU movies for being comedies these days anyway. An exaggeration for sure, but the tone definitely does seem more serious and bleak from the trailers.

[Andrew NDB]

Very dumb indeed. They're horror/action (probably in that order) movies that only incidentally include Bill Murray walking around saying funny sh**. You remove Bill Murray and his adlibbing from these movies there's no way you could even say there was much humor in them at all, to speak of.

The only actor who is in GB1 and GB2 who seems to think they're a non-serious part in a comedy movie is Rick Moranis.

[Turo602]

The most hilarious sh*t in Ghostbusters is that they want us to believe Bill Murray is an attractive and charming guy even though he looks like Elmer Fudd.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Turo602

The most hilarious sh*t in Ghostbusters is that they want us to believe Bill Murray is an attractive and charming guy even though he looks like Elmer Fudd.

He gets a lot of extra credit for "swagger" and "charisma," I'm sure. To be fair, while she's an awesome actress I've never found Sigourney Weaver particularly attractive in anything, ever.

[Leo656]

Weaver was a f*cking knockout in "Heartbreakers". I thought she was hotter than Jennifer Love Hewitt in that one.

She's a bit "mannish" in the face I guess but I think she's quite attractive. She definitely always had a good body. However I do think some people over-sell her attractiveness just a bit.
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Turo: I agree with your assessment of what makes a movie a "comedy".

As a general rule, I find myself not liking "comedies", with some very strong exceptions but on the whole I find them rather insipid. I DO however enjoy a good belly laugh when it's earned. I like "funny movies" but I generally don't get into "comedy movies". The joke-every-30-seconds formula tends to wear itself out very fast. I also tend to prefer movies that were made with craftsmanship and care, and most comedies, let's be honest, are Not That. They're "cheap" by design and in execution.

People can like them and that's just fine, I don't care. They just happen to be my second-least-favorite genre of movie, with musicals being my least-favorite. But in either case there are a few that I really, really like. I just don't like MOST of them.

Like I've seen "Dumb & Dumber" twice in my life and both times I wanted someone to come shoot me before it was halfway over. I just can't do it, that stuff isn't my taste AT ALL. The first Ace Ventura still holds up, though. Second one was awful.

[lonewarrior20]

just finished watching it, i enjoyed it after watching around 30 minutes of movie trailers and theater commercials.

[Andrew NDB]

So I can confirm...

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There is a little bit of Egon in the beginning at the farmhouse, then the first time you see an OG Ghostbuster is about an hour in and it's the "calling Ray" scene from the trailer. Which goes on for a few minutes. Then they don't show up until about an hour 44 minutes into it for like the last 9 minutes. Janine near the beginning when they're settling into the farmhouse, as you'd expect, but it looks like that's it. Also, I was just skimming around so it's possible I missed it (if I did it must be TINY), but I didn't see any Dana at all.

Definitely I was way off base about the OG Ghostbusters having a B plot and anybody expecting huge things of them in this will be disappointed. It's kind of exactly what most people figured it'd be for their time in the movie. Maybe slightly more. I mean, Ray technically has a whole arc throughout the movie... he's just absent between the two points in it. Now people only expecting just a small, quick CGI Egon cameo or none at all WILL be surprised with how much is there, and what they were able to do.

Like, if your thing was wanting to see all 4 OG Ghostbusters busting side by side one more time? You'll get it.

[oldmanwinters]

I was optimistic about this but...

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I even liked it better than I expected!

I could never bring myself to watch the 2017 film all the way through, however...

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I saved my last box of Ecto-Cooler from that film's tie-in promotion and smuggled it into the theatre tonight to enjoy in the dark.

Spoilers?

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S.Weaver is in the mid-credits scene...

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with Venkman, of course.

The Janine-Winston epilogue (and teaser for another sequel) is the final post-credits scene.

[Jester]

My wife and I are going to see it Saturday as a belated anniversary date. Gotta watch the 1st 2 movies again before then.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

My wife and I are going to see it Saturday as a belated anniversary date. Gotta watch the 1st 2 movies again before then.

I'm... on the fence about how Afterlife handles continuity.

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There are at least one or two subtle references to GBII, even the famous Paul Rudd line about "hasn't been a ghost sighting in 30 years" [2021-1989/1990] This movie cements the original film as taking place in 1984 and establishes the current definitely takes place is 2021... maybe as a result of some digital editing after the postponement. However, the new history about Egon having a daughter becomes complicated because

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he keeps dated photographs of her in his lab, some of which are dated 1983 and 1987. This obviously suggests Egon had a wife/lover and daughter prior to the events of the first film.

[Andrew NDB]

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That's fine. And good to know Egon had some personal life outside of his work. It doesn't seem contradicted by anything in GB1 and GB2. In fact, it kind of makes sense. In GB1 he was pretty clearly avoiding all of Janine's advances. She didn't know him yet. In GB2, which by that time she'd know more about him, she had completely moved on and angled toward Louis.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

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That's fine. And good to know Egon had some personal life outside of his work. It doesn't seem contradicted by anything in GB1 and GB2. In fact, it kind of makes sense. In GB1 he was pretty clearly avoiding all of Janine's advances. She didn't know him yet. In GB, which by that time she'd know more about him, she had completely moved on and angled toward Louis.

Wasn't there some line he says in the original film about apparently disdaining human emotions? Maybe that has some more depth now considering his apparent backstory before going into Ghostbusting.

Also, IMO... Annie Potts is a step up from Sigourney Weaver for Louis, haha.

[Leo656]

Huh. THAT is an interesting wrinkle about Egon I had never even considered. And I can also see it being a bit of "canon" that was always there but had just never come up in the actual movies themselves. Like sometimes actors/writers do come up with little "facts" about their characters that never make it into the movies, but if you ask them they'll tell you. I can see this being one of those. It's a retrofit, but it works.

Works better than "Apollo Creed went out and knocked up some broad the night before he got beaten to death and now his bastard is gonna carry the franchise", at any rate.

Anyways, looking forward to this but might not get to see it for a few days. Sunday, maybe.

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Also, IMO... Annie Potts is a step up from Sigourney Weaver for Louis, haha.

I'unno if I'd go THAT far but I definitely would've slammed the sh*t outta 1980s Annie Potts, for sure.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Wasn't there some line he says in the original film about apparently disdaining human emotions? Maybe that has some more depth now considering his apparent backstory before going into Ghostbusting.

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Something like that. But that doesn't mean he didn't meet someone similarly minded.

Also, IMO... Annie Potts is a step up from Sigourney Weaver for Louis, haha.

Huge. I think Potts is still pretty cute now.

[oldmanwinters]

Speaking of appearances... it's remarkable when

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the OG G.Busters assemble, Ernie Hudson looks like he's 10-15 years younger than Aykroyd and Murray. He and Potts look great for their age, whereas "Ray" and "Peter" just look like they've let themselves go. It ain't an exaggeration when Winston is talking to Janine at the final scene and calls himself "the sex appeal" of the original group. Plus, he delivers all his lines with some real affection for his character. Murray plays it about as much as you would expect for a special appearance... about with the same enthusiasm he had in Space Jam or Zombieland. Aykroyd tries hard but I'm just thinking... the years have been hard to you, "Ray."

[Leo656]

Black Don't Crack, homie.

[Andrew NDB]

So it seems like... this is less so Ghostbusters: The Next Generation (though it COULD be) and less so Ghostbusters 3... but more like a coda to the franchise.

[lonewarrior20]

i just wanna know who egon shacked up with, i mean it had to be when he was in collage or when they were in paranormal studies.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'll be honest, this movie doesn't look that interesting but definitely better than Ghostbusters 2016. I might wait on this one.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

So it seems like... this is less so Ghostbusters: The Next Generation (though it COULD be) and less so Ghostbusters 3... but more like a coda to the franchise.

I definitely took it that way, as I'm sure was the director's intention. But you know movie studios these days... everything must be done with the prospects of "franchise" or "shared universe." The movie's very last image of

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the original firehouse containment unit being active makes that very clear.