Doctor Strange 2 - Page 4

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-15-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

god damn, everyone and their mother are having multiverse stories, it'll be so played out in the next 4 years or so when all these projects come out.

who else is doing multiverse stories?

*Andrew NDB* · 02-15-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

who else is doing multiverse stories?

The last Spider-Man movie. The "What If?" MCU show. Loki. The Flash movie. Plus Batgirl and any DC movie that continues to have the Michael Keaton Batman in it would be a "multiverse story."

~~AquaParade~~ · 02-15-2022, 01:21 PM

It's definitely in danger of feeling played out. It's a tricky thing to balance, I think, because it allows for a lot of "easy way outs", which can quickly become frustrating for audiences. Especially in the MCU, where they work on the fly, and are very liberal about forcing a script into submission in a sometimes awkward way.
Although, they deserve credit for handling the fan service moments quite well, so far. Tobey and Andrew were put to great use in No Way Home. It didn't feel cheap at all.

At the same time, there is potential for a ton of cool stories, so I do want to see it played to it's full potential before the toys are put away.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-15-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

It's definitely in danger of feeling played out. It's a tricky thing to balance, I think, because it allows for a lot of "easy way outs", which can quickly become frustrating for audiences. Especially in the MCU, where they work on the fly, and are very liberal about forcing a script into submission in a sometimes awkward way.
Although, they deserve credit for handling the fan service moments quite well, so far. Tobey and Andrew were put to great use in No Way Home. It didn't feel cheap at all.

At the same time, there is potential for a ton of cool stories, so I do want to see it played to it's full potential before the toys are put away.

I think the obvious time the multiverse stuff will go away is when they run out of universes that people would care about the MCU multiversing with.

Like, what do we have?

* Two different Fox-Men "generations."

* Two different Fantastic 4 universes.

* Two (three, including Venom?) different Spider-Man universes.

Um... what's really left that anyone is going to give a sh** about the MCU crossing over with? What, Tom Jane's Punisher? Nicholas Cage's Ghost Rider? That'll be that.

**Jester** · 02-15-2022, 03:52 PM

Afleck's Daredevil?
Eric Bana's Hulk?
I wonder if Norton would come back for a joke cameo.

Also isn't Black Bolt a member of the Illuminati? Maybe Anson Mount will return.

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-15-2022, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The last Spider-Man movie. The "What If?" MCU show. Loki. The Flash movie. Plus Batgirl and any DC movie that continues to have the Michael Keaton Batman in it would be a "multiverse story."

Ah ok, see in my mind that's just two ("Marvel" and "DC"); I'm just lumping together all of each of their uses of multiversal shenanigans in a story as one instance each. For the MCU that makes sense to me since all the stories are connected, but I don't know what's the case with any of the DC joints anymore

*Andrew NDB* · 02-16-2022, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Afleck's Daredevil?
Eric Bana's Hulk?
I wonder if Norton would come back for a joke cameo.

Also isn't Black Bolt a member of the Illuminati? Maybe Anson Mount will return.

Those are examples of things they COULD do multiversally... not examples of things they could do that more than 5 people would care about.

A Norton appearance would be nice, though. Though him as the Hulk -- any Hulk -- would sadly make the least amount of sense since he's supposed to be the same guy as Ruffalo in the same universe. Eric Bana as an older, grizzled Hulk/Banner from another universe would be kind of cool, though.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-16-2022, 01:42 AM

I feel like Norton won't work, since he is explicitly supposed to be the same Hulk as Ruffalo. Though, Feige and Co always can whip and explanation.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-16-2022, 01:44 AM

Though there'd kind of be a weirdness with, eh, if they're willing to work with him on another big budget, massive ensemble cast movie... why exactly didn't they just do so as planned with the Avengers 1? Like, wtf?

Again, the #1 thing I was looking forward to in Avengers was seeing the Norton Banner/Hulk interact with RDJ and the others.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-22-2022, 07:56 AM

A fresh rumour that Strange and Chavez will briefly enter the X-Men: TAS universe in the movie

https://geekositymag.com/doctor-stra...s1rIdJhOqKnvq0

*Andrew NDB* · 03-02-2022, 06:45 PM

They reshot "most of the movie."

https://bgr.com/entertainment/an-exc...ust-confirmed/

*neatoman* · 03-03-2022, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They reshot "most of the movie."

https://bgr.com/entertainment/an-exc...ust-confirmed/

So assuming the movie is two hours long, then they carved out at least 61 minutes and shot at least 61 minutes of more footage. How does that happen?

*Andrew NDB* · 03-03-2022, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

So assuming the movie is two hours long, then they carved out at least 61 minutes and shot at least 61 minutes of more footage. How does that happen?

I suspect what happened is that "No Way Home" made a ton of money and they realized their actual Multiverse movie didn't have enough Multiverse. So now they reshoot in the X-Men, Fantastic Four maybe, more Spider-Men again, etc..

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-03-2022, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Norton was a better Bruce banner

Of course, he's super talented. And Mark Ruffalo hasn't had much to work with, imo. He had some fun moments in the first Avengers and has been pure comic relief since.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-03-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Of course, he's super talented. And Mark Ruffalo hasn't had much to work with, imo. He had some fun moments in the first Avengers and has been pure comic relief since.

Pretty weird what they've done with him. Rather than develop him and get into good stories with him... their idea seems to be "let's completely change who the Hulk is every time you see him." While subtly shoving him into the background of late because of toxic masculinity or whatever it is.

~~Sumac~~ · 03-03-2022, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Pretty weird what they've done with him. Rather than develop him and get into good stories with him... their idea seems to be "let's completely change who the Hulk is every time you see him." While subtly shoving him into the background of late because of toxic masculinity or whatever it is.

More like, because, Hulk on his own is a fairly one note character, and in ensemble cast he is even worse than usual.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-26-2022, 10:22 AM

Illuminati confirmed

~~Leo656~~ · 04-28-2022, 03:17 PM

Not related to this new movie, but it showed up in my News feed, and... yikes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctor-st...073347020.html

*Andrew NDB* · 04-28-2022, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Not related to this new movie, but it showed up in my News feed, and... yikes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctor-st...073347020.html

I like the little stinger at the end there:

"His previous marriage had broken down as he had a relationship with Ms Phythian who was a teenager at the time."

Who is this chick, though? I don't remember her in Dr. Strange. Is she somebody in the new one?

~~Leo656~~ · 04-28-2022, 03:44 PM

No idea. You know I don't watch Marvel movies.

She's "nobody", apparently. No Wikipedia page, but according to the Wiki for the first movie she (and other people with no page) "portray zealots under Kaecilius" whatever that means. That might mean something to someone who actually watched the movie.

02-15-2022, 03:52 PM	#65
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Afleck's Daredevil? Eric Bana's Hulk? I wonder if Norton would come back for a joke cameo. Also isn't Black Bolt a member of the Illuminati? Maybe Anson Mount will return. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-16-2022, 01:44 AM	#69
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	Though there'd kind of be a weirdness with, eh, if they're willing to work with him on another big budget, massive ensemble cast movie... why exactly didn't they just do so as planned with the Avengers 1? Like, wtf? Again, the #1 thing I was looking forward to in Avengers was seeing the Norton Banner/Hulk interact with RDJ and the others. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-22-2022, 07:56 AM	#70
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,500	A fresh rumour that Strange and Chavez will briefly enter the X-Men: TAS universe in the movie https://geekositymag.com/doctor-stra...s1rIdJhOqKnvq0 __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

03-02-2022, 06:45 PM	#71
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	They reshot "most of the movie." https://bgr.com/entertainment/an-exc...ust-confirmed/ __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-26-2022, 10:22 AM	#77
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,500	Illuminati confirmed __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

02-15-2022, 01:21 PM	#63
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	It's definitely in danger of feeling played out. It's a tricky thing to balance, I think, because it allows for a lot of "easy way outs", which can quickly become frustrating for audiences. Especially in the MCU, where they work on the fly, and are very liberal about forcing a script into submission in a sometimes awkward way. Although, they deserve credit for handling the fan service moments quite well, so far. Tobey and Andrew were put to great use in No Way Home. It didn't feel cheap at all. At the same time, there is potential for a ton of cool stories, so I do want to see it played to it's full potential before the toys are put away.

02-16-2022, 01:42 AM	#68
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	I feel like Norton won't work, since he is explicitly supposed to be the same Hulk as Ruffalo. Though, Feige and Co always can whip and explanation.

04-28-2022, 03:17 PM	#78
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Not related to this new movie, but it showed up in my News feed, and... yikes. https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctor-st...073347020.html

04-28-2022, 03:44 PM	#80
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	No idea. You know I don't watch Marvel movies. She's "nobody", apparently. No Wikipedia page, but according to the Wiki for the first movie she (and other people with no page) "portray zealots under Kaecilius" whatever that means. That might mean something to someone who actually watched the movie.