DC/WB Confirm ''The Flash: Flashpoint'' Movie

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

It is such **** that they need to reshoot 3/4 of the movie?

Maybe they want to add Battinson now.

[Andrew NDB]

Also reading a lot of speculation that all of these delays are due to the Discovery merger finalizing any day now. That the new powers that be might want a lot of reshoots to better restore the Snyderverse to some degree.

[CyberCubed]

I'm worried about Michael Keaton, I just hope he lives long enough to get one more sequel. I get really worried when every actor is in their 70's, they could die at any time even if they seem healthy.

[Leo656]

Andrew: Which would ultimately be pointless because everyone except Ezra is gonna be too old to keep playing their respective role anyway. WB bungled things so much for so long that it's at the point where Snyder's entire JLA cast will be in their 40s soon.

I mean even if the DCEU had gone according to plan they'd still all be at the point where WB would absolutely be using This Movie as a way to organically reshuffle things to go on with a younger cast. No doubt of that whatsoever.

Now it's a "Multiverse" movie, because WB are copycats and also don't know what the hell they're doing at the best of times. And while the basic "reboot with a younger cast (for some characters at least)" will still be in play, they might still rig it so that the older cast can remain "in play" as well? To what purpose, I wonder? So Cavill can do cameos in stuff while the Black Superman movie nobody wants gets its own movie instead? Anything Affleck might have done a cameo for was given to Keaton instead.

It's just a mess. Don't get me wrong, I love Snyder's cast and if they do more stuff then I'm down for it. But I can't help but feel like not only did they completely miss their window if they did indeed want to do more with these people, but the entire possibility just illustrates the entire lack of direction over there at WB. They are SUCH a sh*t company. If you really dig into their history, it starts to look like every good movie they ever put out was a complete accident, and that those movies in turn were good in spite of being produced by WB, never ever because of them. Even stuff like Beetlejuice was a disaster until they fixed it in the editing room. There's a million stories like that. And yeah, on some level it's just movies in general, but with WB it happens so consistently that it becomes a rule and not an exception.

[Leo656]

DC as an entity originated the Multiverse way before anyone else used the concept.

Point of fact, the concept used to be derided by most people as "sloppy, lazy storytelling" before everyone realized there was big money in it. Before crossover movies and Nostalgia Wank became a thing, though, all having fifty different disparate versions of a character meant was that you didn't know how to write or manage them properly. Which is objectively true; the "Multiverse" concept was originally invented by editors who needed an excuse as to why some stories had glaring inconsistencies between them, and thus any "mistake" wasn't actually a mistake, but rather, "That Story happened on Earth-2". There was no creative motivation behind any of it, in the beginning; it literally started when someone asked why Mxyzptlk used to spell his name "Mxyztplk", and the guy answering the mail that week said "Alternate Earth". That tongue-in-cheek avoidance of admitting a simple spelling error somehow became a Whole Big Thing.

Anyway. DC invented the Multiverse BUT the reason I say that WB are copycats is because as a rule they never go ahead with an idea for a movie unless someone else already made a billion dollars with it. They can only follow, never lead. Not a single original thought or idea in the entire corporation. "Those Guys made a billion dollars with three Spider-Mans? We need FOUR Batman's for our movie! Quick, call Clooney for the Flash movie!" That's how they f*cking operate over there, it's a goddamn circus.

[Autbot_Benz]

The reason for delay is this according to deadline

We’ve heard that a number of these movies, which are VFX heavy, are being pushed due to the logjam many post-prod effects houses are facing as productions ramped up during Covid. The Flash alone has 2,500 VFX shots, we understand.

https://deadline.com/2022/03/warner-...el-1234974660/

[ZariusTwo]

Grace Randolph claims there's been a few changes in the editing room and Ben Affleck's been spared the chop, though Keaton will remain the core Batman, the door remains open for Ben to return.

https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/st...n%3Fpage%3D347

[Sumac]

The whole thing smells of typical WB approach, "changing things on the fly" and "too many cooks in the same kitchen".

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Grace Randolph claims there's been a few changes in the editing room and Ben Affleck's been spared the chop, though Keaton will remain the core Batman, the door remains open for Ben to return.

https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/st...n%3Fpage%3D347

I thought the Execs at WB wanted to move away from The Snyderverse after all the drama they went through, Especially with the Cyborg actor.

We still have other movies based on the Snyderverse that are still getting movies, Like Wonder Woman 3, Aquaman 2 and The Flash.

As far as my concern, Those are Snyderverse movies.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

As far as my concern, Those are Snyderverse movies.

They're Josstice movies.

[Leo656]

To clarify for those who may not understand:

WB as an entertainment company wants to move away from Snyder's material. They did not want to release Snyder's Justice League, they do not want Cavill as Superman or Affleck as Batman, etc. They want to keep Wonder Woman and Aquaman and bury the rest, and lean full-tilt into copying the MCU formula of sunny/funny comic book movies with lots of jokes and such.

Warner Media, which is a corporate entity above WB on the pecking order, supposedly still sees value and money in the Snyder-based material, and that it can co-exist alongside the other stuff WB/DC is doing. They feel like different strokes for different folks is fine and that every product will find its own audience. As such, they're open to bringing Cavill back as Superman, doing more with Affleck's Batman, etc., even on a smaller platform such as HBO Max, since there's obviously still an audience for those things. Supposedly, that's how they feel. They know they need HBO Max content anyway and that not every single person wants "sunny/funny" super-hero material.

So they've been playing tug-of-war behind the scenes for a while now.

Discovery is a new wild card in the game. They might end up forcing an end to the stalemate one way or the other. It remains to be seen.

So anyways, yes, if WB had full control over their DC output then we probably wouldn't even have Affleck in the Flash movie. But WB on some level is still obliged to take "suggestion" from Warner Media. Therefore, WB may have to do some things that creatively they'd rather not, because it comes from Corporate. Like if Warner Media says, "We want an Affleck Batman series for HBO Max, make it happen," WB has to at least try and get it to work even if they don't want to.

It's a matter of corporate hierarchy, essentially.

[Leo656]

Holy sh*t, AGAIN with this guy:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...044540525.html

‘Flash’ Star Ezra Miller Arrested for Disorderly Conduct and Harassment in Hawaii

According to a post by the Hawai’i County Police Department, South Hilo officers responded to a report of a disorderly bar patron on Sunday evening at 11:30 p.m. Police determined that the agitator had become unruly while other patrons sang karaoke and had begun “yelling obscenities.” Miller then “grabbed the microphone from a 23-year-old woman singing karaoke and later lunged at a 32-year-old man playing darts.”

Get ready for more delays as they reshoot every scene of the movie with Grant Gustin in Ezra's place, now, probably. F*cking JESUS.

This guy needs to be on a leash when he goes out. People have BARELY forgotten about the time he choked a woman down to the ground after another bar scuffle, as the article points out. Dude apparently can't handle his drugs and alcohol.

Also, c'mon, I know it's Variety and everything, but did they have to make it a point to go through their archives and find The Absolute Gayest Picture Ever Taken Of Ezra Miller to headline the article? Yeesh.

Anyway, yeah, whether the movie comes out or doesn't I don't think he has a career left after this. He only barely escaped the last incident, now it's becoming a pattern. WB doesn't like "risky" people who publicly embarrass themselves while under the influence. We'll see, but I kinda think he's done. He wasn't doing much anyways but this might be it.

[Sumac]

Just wanted to post it.

After his first stint with the grabbing woman or something, I thought, "OK, everyone do stupid ****", but now it seems, like he is indeed a dumb**** who can't control himself.

Also, obligatory, watch some retards being angry that people refer to the man as a man, instead of referring to him as "them".

[Leo656]

It's a shame, I haven't seen him in much but I liked what I've seen.

Same thing happened with whatsisname, Hirsch, the guy who played Speed Racer. Got high and choked some woman at an industry party. DONE. Like still works a little here and there but by and large that was it.

Stan Hansen said it best, when a younger wrestler asked him where he liked to go out and blow off steam after the shows. "I don't go out. I stay in my room. NOTHING good can happen when you go out."

That's good advice, more people should take it. Especially famous people.

[Andrew NDB]

Loves attacking women, I guess?

[ZariusTwo]

A temporary restraining order for Ezra has been filed by a couple in Hawai, after Ezra reportedly burst into their bedroom threatening to kill them. He also stole several items including a social security card, wallet, passport, driver's licence, and bank cards

https://people.com/movies/hawaii-cou...actors-arrest/

[CyberCubed]

What's wrong with this guy? WB is definitely going to clean house of him after the Flash movie.

[Leo656]

Jesus. Yeah, he's done.

[Sumac]

Even retarded pronounce won't save his crazy ass.
And, yeah, his movie carrier is as good as finished for next few years. At least as far as blockbusters are concerned. No way WB want to be associated with someone so unstable and toxic like that. Now if he was a woman...

[ZariusTwo]

Test screening of The Flash was last night, here are the alleged leaks

Spoiler:

-Superman timeline erased. Zod restored. Cavill gone for good
-You want to get nuts? Keaton is 'nuts'
-Affleck lives, but is trapped someplace. This is a post-credits scene. Rumour is he'll be back for a Crisis movie
-Christian Bale is in this
-Black Flash is the villain