Random Thoughts - Current Events edition

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Never apologize to SJW - they see it as a weakness and will exploit it. And some are so far gone, they will never accept your apology, even if you didn't said anything revolting in the first place.

That's why when plas used to PM me trying to scold and "educate" me on my opinions I'd just dig in deeper and tell her to take a leap.

That kind of sh*t is insufferable. First off, we were never even friends, so I'm not sure why she had this need for us to agree on anything. But again, those people are super-intolerant.

Like, maybe I am a "terrible person". That's between me and whatever God there might be, not between you and I. I don't care to be "saved" and I'm probably well past that point anyway. So I'll keep my "terrible opinions" as my own cross to bear and suffer whatever consequence that entails.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Its weird, I absolutely loathe and hate the positions that plastroncafe takes but I somewhat admire her being a clear-cut authoritarian about it, even if she denies it. The reason why plastron's brand of "SJW woke politics" is so widespread nowadays is because the movement has been spread through force and intimidation, its that simple.

I sometimes am curious whether she lurks here or not. I'm still here to talk, frenemy

[Leo656]

"If you don't think someone should be able to be in a relationship with one person and still casually have sex with a bunch of other people outside the relationship, you're a terrible person."

^^^ Something a person with highly questionable morals and values who cares more about orgasms than peoples' feelings would say. Woe be to anyone who'd willingly be in a "relationship" with someone like that.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

"If you don't think someone should be able to be in a relationship with one person and still casually have sex with a bunch of other people outside the relationship, you're a terrible person."

^^^ Something a person with highly questionable morals and values who cares more about orgasms than peoples' feelings would say. Woe be to anyone who'd willingly be in a "relationship" with someone like that.

Anyone who takes a position like that should have an equally condescending reply:

"If you think someone should be able to cheat on their husband/wife without consequence, you're a terrible person".

People with that user's mentality were only able to spread because they were allowed to. I wish they weren't, and it was a bad judgement in American history to think that everyone's voice counts when reality clearly shows otherwise.

[Leo656]

I think it's telling that people like that tend to pack up and leave this place for good when people refuse to defer to them. Rather than just agree to disagree and say "Okay, it's clear we'll never agree but we can still talk in general."

Some people NEED that echo chamber or they simply can't function. They think they're "taking a stand" by walking away - "I simply can't be around people who think such terrible things" - but all they're really doing is revealing how thin-skinned and intolerant they are if they're only interested in hearing people tell them "I agree, you're SO right", over and over again, forever, regardless of topic.

To them, we're the "bad guys" for wrongthink. To me, they're pussies. Which is even worse than the fact I can't stand their politics. I can respect a difference of opinion. I don't respect wimps.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Anyone who takes a position like that should have an equally condescending reply:

"If you think someone should be able to cheat on their husband/wife without consequence, you're a terrible person".

People with that user's mentality were only able to spread because they were allowed to. I wish they weren't, and it was a bad judgement in American history to think that everyone's voice counts when reality clearly shows otherwise.

You make an interesting point in your 2nd paragraph.

Freedom of expression is a person's right in any democratic nation... but sometimes I hear and read such stupid ****, especially nowadays with social media and everyone having a voice to reach the entire world in a few minutes, that it honestly makes me think if those people who defend the return of authoritian regimes don't have a point after all.

Seriously, in a democracy you gotta take both the good and bad opinions, but sometimes I wish some people could just be taken away for being too stupid.

Like Churchill said, Democracy is a bad form of government, but all the others are worse. He also said that the strongest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with your average voter.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Prowler

You make an interesting point in your 2nd paragraph.

Freedom of expression is a person's right in any democratic nation... but sometimes I hear and read such stupid ****, especially nowadays with social media and everyone having a voice to reach the entire world in a few minutes, that it honestly makes me think if those people who defend the return of authoritian regimes don't have a point after all.

Seriously, in a democracy you gotta take both the good and bad opinions, but sometimes I wish some people could just be taken away for being too stupid.

Like Churchill said, Democracy is a bad form of government, but all the others are worse. He also said that the strongest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with your average voter.

I blame social networks for this.

Before, if you wanted your opinion to be heard, you needed at least some management skills, money and / or talent to publish newspaper or get article in one, appear on TV or radio, publish a book or something like that.

Most of SJW lunatics plaguing West won't be able to do that, since they are lazy and most of them can't manage anything except for video games. But with social networks anyone can say, whatever they want and anyone can gather cult in their own name. And its just few clicks away and costs nothing!

[Leo656]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...232312073.html

These people really... really... really... really... really... REALLY really really wanna talk to your 4-year old kids about Being Gay and/or Trans.

No. Shut up. You're insane.

[Andrew NDB]

Some crazy stuff going on.



Supreme Court pick can't define what a woman is when asked. It's one thing when random transsexuals on Dr. Phil can't do it... this is quite another.

[Sumac]

And too think its all done to service mentally ill men. So much for "future is female" and Feminism.

At this point I am starting to think that some women just want to submit themselves to men, even at the cost of their safety, dignity and freedom. Otherwise I can't explain why they will appease crazies.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Some crazy stuff going on.



Supreme Court pick can't define what a woman is when asked. It's one thing when random transsexuals on Dr. Phil can't do it... this is quite another.

It's a cancel tactic. They know in this day and age you can't 'define a woman' without somehow including transfolk or you're canned.

That supreme court nominee wasn't stupid. She knew if she gave an honest answer she's not only lose her position but she'd probably never be able to find work in that town ever again. The cancel crowd would see to it.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

That supreme court nominee wasn't stupid. She knew if she gave an honest answer she's not only lose her position but she'd probably never be able to find work in that town ever again. The cancel crowd would see to it.

It is a shame that mentally ill and grifters got so powerful they can manipulate lives of random people, even those who should "unreachable" by their ****

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

It is a shame that mentally ill and grifters got so powerful they can manipulate lives of random people, even those who should "unreachable" by their ****

Yeah.... I'm all for respect and whatnot, but this is just pushing it too far. Nowadays it seems the needs of the few far outweigh the needs of the many.

We're gonna reach the point where the President (not necessarily Sleepy Joe, but whoever happens to be in office) will get a free pass for mass treason but will instantly get booted out of office and replaced if he misgenders someone.

[sdp]

I'm glad we have this thread so we can discuss this topic which seems to trigger a lot of people but since we have so many experts on the topic here and this is a TMNT forum it's only right. I know I've mentioned it before but it just fits this topic better.

Rise of the TMNT Case Jones is transsexual and no matter where you stand on your views on trans people you need to accept it since it'll fit your views.

As we saw Casey Jones is a girl in Rise of the TMNT but Case Jones is a man as we all know but in reality he really is a man just as he should be in canon because he is trans.

If you think that trans people aren't the gender they say they are then this works for you because Casey Jones is a male trying to be female but in reality he'll never be a woman despite cutting his penis off, so he's still male just as Casey Jones should be.

If you think trans people are the gender they say they are then this works for you because Casey Jones is a female trying to be a male, and since in reality she really is the gender she say she is, then she is a he, even if he has a vagina and not a penis, he's still male just as Casey Jones should be.

Everyone can be happy and get along knowing no matter your views, Casey Jones is male in Rise of the TMNT because he's trans.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I love you, sdp. We should sit down for coffee in Tokio, Italy, which I'm sure is a nice place.

[Sumac]

Oh, sdp and his low quality bait.

[Leo656]

What the sh*t is this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-t...193803242.html

Gay teachers upset about the bill in Florida because they "Don't want to be barred from discussing their personal lives with their students."

Uh... what? Like, is this a new thing? Since when was this ever a thing?

When I was in school, discussions about "personal life" - i.e. anything not having to do with the worksheet in front of you - between students and teachers was completely out of bounds. Anything going on in YOUR life as a student regarding anything outside of school was strictly between you, the nurse, and/or the guidance counselor, nobody else. First or second day back from school they might do a "What I Did On My Summer Vacation" deal, but that's it. The staff only got involved in your home life if your Mom was on the PTA or there were signs of abuse, otherwise it was "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." "If someone is hitting you or touching you inappropriately, tell the nurse or the counselor. Otherwise, it's not appropriate to discuss what goes on at home with teachers. They're there to Teach, and you're there to Learn."

And that went double for teachers; one time, we had a teacher who got pregnant, and that was a big deal and a topic of discussion since it was like Second Grade and a lot of the kids had never even seen a pregnant woman before. But even then, after having a brief talk about it Once we really were not supposed to talk about it anymore, since it invited conversation about things 7-year olds "aren't supposed to be talking about yet". Past that, once in a great while a teacher got married or something, but again, you REALLY were not supposed to ask them about it, and they weren't supposed to talk about it. Rarely two teachers from the same school got married to each other, and naturally the students would be curious and try to ask about it, but the answer was ALWAYS a very curt and firm, "We do not talk about our personal lives at school, we are here to teach you lessons not talk about what we do at home. It simply is not appropriate."

That's how it always was. And frankly, how it should probably be. Even at the high school level, "We don't talk about what we do when we go home, that's none of your business." If you saw a teacher outside of school on the weekend or whatever, be it at the grocery store or god forbid coming out of a bar, you might say a quick "Hello" and/or "See you Monday" but that was it. Even a few of the teachers I had a good relationship would pretend they didn't see me and walk away if I saw them out in public, it was just too awkward to interact in a social setting. The boundaries between Student and Teacher were well understood.

So now suddenly it's a thing where teachers and students "bond" over "sharing their personal lives and experiences"? Is this more of the "I'd rather be a Friend and not an authority figure" nonsense?

Really can't wrap my head around this. "I'm sad because now I can't tell my students I'm gay and I can't regale them with tales of all the Jolly Gay Adventures I have with my partner when we're not in school." News Flash: Straight or Gay, married or single, you shouldn't be talking about stuff like that with your students because that's not what they're in school for ya numbnuts.

I used to think home-schoolers were crazy and their kids were all maladjusted little misfits. I'm sure a ton of them are, but nowadays it seems like actually sending your kid off to school is the "crazier" option. Priorities are f*cking shot across the board. It's lunacy.

[Leo656]

They are absolutely, 100% not interested in indoctrinating your kids, though.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-ex...224509498.html

Disney Executive Producer Admits to ‘Gay Agenda,’ ‘Adding Queerness’ Wherever She Could

During a staff meeting on Florida’s recent enactment of the Parental Rights in Education bill, an executive producer at Disney said she was advancing a “not-at-all-secret gay agenda” to insert queerness into children’s animation.

Hmmmm. Hm.

in·doc·tri·na·tion
noun
the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.

......Huh. Well whattya know about that.

[Sumac]

It was fairly normal here to teacher talk about their lives, but it never went into realm of personal and intimate details, like who were they dating or something.

Being outraged that you can not talk about your personal life, with your students, pretending that it hurts Gays somehow, is dumb as ****. Seems another attempt at indoctrination to me, i.e. demonstrating through teachers that being LGB is normal, something that really shouldn't be concern of the school.

Also, **** that executive producer. If she want to make a Gay show, she should be doing shows for adults. Trying to "insert Gay agenda" into kids show is ****ed and shows that those people seriously ****ed in their heads.

[Andrew NDB]

It is really sick and twisted adults that need their alternative lifestyles validated by small children.