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Old 05-14-2022, 04:13 AM   #201
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You needed more proof that corporations look at diversity as something of a marketing thing? Well, here it is: Activision-Blizzard presented a new tool, which calculates "character diversity".
Gladly a lot of people went angry about it, justifiably comparing "scoring system based on race, culture and sexual orientation" not different than Nazi practices of race measuring.
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Old 05-14-2022, 05:52 AM   #202
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You needed more proof that corporations look at diversity as something of a marketing thing? Well, here it is: Activision-Blizzard presented a new tool, which calculates "character diversity".
Gladly a lot of people went angry about it, justifiably comparing "scoring system based on race, culture and sexual orientation" not different than Nazi practices of race measuring.
Ah, yes. A 'social credits system' based on a racial/orientation/religious hierarchy. What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 05-14-2022, 10:46 AM   #203
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Ah, yes. A 'social credits system' based on a racial/orientation/religious hierarchy. What could possibly go wrong?
But SJW told me many times over, that "Oppression Olympics" and rewarding people for their supposedly oppressed status is not a real thing!!
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Old 05-14-2022, 11:18 AM   #204
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But SJW told me many times over, that "Oppression Olympics" and rewarding people for their supposedly oppressed status is not a real thing!!
It's this desire to try to appear to be the most upstanding, moral people to ever walk the Earth. This is why they claim the Oppression Olympics don't exist, yet they still partake in the very behavior. They don't want to admit that this is what they do because then they will look bad to the 'right people'.

Britta from the show, Community, deconstructed the psychology of such a person very well (and I honestly really liked her as well, she's hilarious).
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:59 PM   #205
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So, I used to consider myself a conservative democrat. I knew they tended to be more neutral, while the republicans where big bad rich business men. And maybe that was true for a time.

But now? the Dems claim this, and 'oh, we're the good guys'...and that, but the NRA is still there. No other country has them, and no other country has this gun issue. THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OWN SEMI OR FULL AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. Our For fathers never envisioned such things, let alone being easily available.

The NRA relies on donations to get laws past. Why can't we simply find out which democratic AND republican senators accept such things and sanction them to hell..so they not only can't afford to accept them anymore, but no one else will either.

I also feel the amendment also needs updating to reflect the technology of the times.
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Old 05-26-2022, 07:05 AM   #206
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If you're referring to the recent shooting, no one is really willing to talk about the real issues.

No one is ready to bring back the nuclear family, to actually raise their kids, to actually treat mental illness, to stop bullying, abuse in the home, etc. Treat these sociopaths before they lash out or snap.
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Old 05-26-2022, 07:15 AM   #207
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Treat these sociopaths before they lash out or snap.
You can't treat sociopaths or psychopaths. That's the thing. There's no way to change them. No amount of medication or therapy can change their 'brain chemistry', that's the problem. Monsters just exist in our world, and it's something humans need to accept. Same with death. Same with bad things happening.

There's really no easy answer to solve any of these problems, short of actually mind controlling the masses. Humanity is...a messed up species, largely due to our free will and intelligence. Thus violence is going to always happen.

Yesterday, I was thinking about this exchange from the Watchmen film:

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Edward Blake: No, but it takes a room full of morons to think they're small enough for you to handle.
I think this applies more than ever before.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:01 AM   #208
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Good Lord do I love Watchmen. Book, movie... I just love it so, so much.

But yeah, your analysis is why I cannot stand the recent trope in media and fiction that "nobody's really a 'bad guy', nobody's actually a 'villain'... there are no bad people, only misunderstood people who need some compassion and understanding."

That's insane to even put forth as a hypothetical, because Sociopathy and Psychopathy exist. You can't cure a mental disorder, especially a violent one, with "compassion and understanding". Stick your neck out like that to THOSE people, it'll get sliced wide open.

"Everyone just needs a hug" is a nice idea. Doesn't actually work in practice.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:13 AM   #209
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I think some people are misunderstood, and a product of abuse/bad environment though good deep down. It's also something I don't mind explored in fiction. Though maybe not in the "everyone is good, everyone is misunderstood" mindset we have a lot of nowadays.

But...yeah. Not everyone is that. There are evil people out there. Like, very evil. Some of them don't even kill, but are still horrible people that enjoy tormenting their victims. And yes, being kind to those types will get your neck sliced wide open, figuratively and also literally. I should know, I've had run-ins with them that have not ended well for me. Luckily, I'm alive at least, but I have been screwed over by bad people. Thus why I am a cynical, guarded mess.

And yes, I also love Watchmen, comic and movie alike. Watchmen is probably Snyder's best movie (I run very hot/cold on his movies, I tend to love or hate). When I think about Watchmen, I usually think of the movie ever since that came out. It feels more vivid to me, maybe because the casting was just so perfect.
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So what do we do with these violent kids? Lock em up as soon as they're diagnosed? End them?
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So what do we do with these violent kids? Lock em up as soon as they're diagnosed? End them?
There's no easy answer to this. There really isn't.
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Old 05-26-2022, 09:10 AM   #212
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And yes, I also love Watchmen, comic and movie alike. Watchmen is probably Snyder's best movie (I run very hot/cold on his movies, I tend to love or hate).
I get accused of being a stan but I haven't even seen everything he's done. Like, to borrow a phrase from you, "I am a bad nerd" because I still haven't seen 300 or his zombie stuff. Just not as strong of an interest in the material. But I will watch them. I own 300 on Blu-ray and I hate myself for not watching it since that was his "big break"... I just get busy and forget.

It's sincerely not my fault that I've honestly loved all the stuff of his I've seen, though. I don't "stan" for directors. Everybody has good stuff and bad stuff. But I've only liked everything I've seen of Zack's, and I can't help that. I will say I make it a point to only acknowledge his Director's Cuts, as the theatrical versions of his movies are always inferior and remove many critical elements that can fundamentally change the entire movie. I know people are like, "10-30 more minutes can't change anything but make it longer", but... that's an oversimplification. Sometimes it changes a lot.

Watchmen isn't a bad example. Some of it is "just more", but some of the extended cut is also context, and putting some of the important bits of the book back in. Which to any fan of the book would be huge. Neophytes might not care, but why would a neophyte even watch Watchmen in the first place? Book or film, it simply isn't a "populist" piece of fiction.

I'm sure one day I'll run across a movie of his I didn't love, but so far he's way ahead with me.

"Owls of F*cking Ga'Hoole", man. Zack Snyder made an animated kids' movie about f*cking owls and it's one of the coolest f*cking things I've ever seen in my life. Don't ask me to explain this sh*t, I can't. I just go where my heart tells me to go.

Note to Self: Time to re-watch "Owls of Ga'Hoole". It's been a while.
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So what do we do with these violent kids? Lock em up as soon as they're diagnosed? End them?
Back in my day we'd stick 'em in the Army and make 'em play the bugle.
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I get accused of being a stan but I haven't even seen everything he's done. Like, to borrow a phrase from you, "I am a bad nerd" because I still haven't seen 300 or his zombie stuff. Just not as strong of an interest in the material.
Hm. For me, 300 no era bueno, and the 'zombie stuff' (Dawn of the Dead) era muy bueno, in my opinion.

Ironically, what I haven't watched is the Owls of Ga'Hoole. I worked at a movie theater at the exact time that movie came out, and the trailer would play on the little TVs we had in the lobby. I'd look up at it, and be like, "Huh...Owls...Zack Snyder??? WHAT?" Never saw it, unfortunately. I think I have it too, included in a 'Family Favorites' DVD thing.
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I think the Ukraine is a good example why we shouldn't get rid of guns. They probably wish they had theirs right about now.
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Hm. For me, 300 no era bueno, and the 'zombie stuff' (Dawn of the Dead) era muy bueno, in my opinion.

Ironically, what I haven't watched is the Owls of Ga'Hoole. I worked at a movie theater at the exact time that movie came out, and the trailer would play on the little TVs we had in the lobby. I'd look up at it, and be like, "Huh...Owls...Zack Snyder??? WHAT?" Never saw it, unfortunately. I think I have it too, included in a 'Family Favorites' DVD thing.
Please don't make me use Google f*cking Translate, we're just goofing around, it shouldn't be work. Have pity on us poor gringos, my Mom was from f*cking Queens. I say "yesterday" as "Yes-tiday" for f*ck's sake. Have a heart.

And I was not ready for Owls of Ga'Hoole. I barely even like kids movies, I never read the books, and if owls were real, holy sh*t we'd all be f*cked.

But I loved that movie. Here's something that may shock you: A "kids' movie" directed by Zack Snyder is a bit darker than your typical kids' movie. I really liked it though, it was "family-friendly" without being fluffy toothless vomit. Not "inappropriate" at all, just has some teeth to it. And it's funnier than one would expect, too. Like, it is actually very funny. I had a great time with it.
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So, I used to consider myself a conservative democrat. I knew they tended to be more neutral, while the republicans where big bad rich business men. And maybe that was true for a time.

But now? the Dems claim this, and 'oh, we're the good guys'...and that, but the NRA is still there. No other country has them, and no other country has this gun issue. THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OWN SEMI OR FULL AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. Our For fathers never envisioned such things, let alone being easily available.

The NRA relies on donations to get laws past. Why can't we simply find out which democratic AND republican senators accept such things and sanction them to hell..so they not only can't afford to accept them anymore, but no one else will either.

I also feel the amendment also needs updating to reflect the technology of the times.
The founding fathers gave us a republic if we can keep it and a second amendment to defend it. Law abiding citizens cannot lose fundamental rights because of the acts of criminals.

Shall not be infringed.

If you want stricter gun control laws because of the recent mass shootings, the media has brainwashed you into voting for your oppressor. It will only lead to full on democrat fascism.
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There sure have been alot of mass shootings lately, it’s also a midterm election year.

If the shooter happens to be white, then the issue is white supremacy. If the shooter is another race, the issue becomes gun control. Every tragedy is just another opportunity for Democrats to steal away our rights and freedoms.

Democrats have been working very hard to usher in the New World Order.

Some Republicans are in on it too, the “RINO”’s (republican in name only), but mostly dems.

It’s guys like Trump who were a real threat to the corrupt establishment, that’s why they wanted him out so bad, used mainstream media to demonize “MAGA”, and stopped at nothing to install Xiden.

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The founding fathers gave us a republic if we can keep it and a second amendment to defend it. Law abiding citizens cannot lose fundamental rights because of the acts of criminals.

Shall not be infringed.

If you want stricter gun control laws because of the recent mass shootings, the media has brainwashed you into voting for your oppressor. It will only lead to full on democrat fascism.

I've ALWAYS hated guns. not about politics. want to defend yourself? how about a sword. cut off the attackers arms and boom, no more threat.

A local citizen should NOT be able to own a automatic or semi automatic. not brain washing, just simple facts.
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I've ALWAYS hated guns. not about politics. want to defend yourself? how about a sword. cut off the attackers arms and boom, no more threat.
Dude... you'd be shot 5 times before you could even draw your sword.
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