Sony's Kraven the Hunter - Page 4

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 01:31 PM

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Minority opinion or whatever, but I hate what they've done to Peter in the MCU now. Homecoming was a fine foundation, then they had to ruin it with the subsequent movies. They just...didn't care. Unmasked him in his second movie only to then retcon it immediately after, and the 'consequences' being that Peter Parker now

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. Great legacy there!

Maybe they really should just kill him off in the next one as many are predicting. Just shoot that horse, and put it out of its misery. Besides, I'm sure Feige and Sony are itching to get rid of Pete just so they can replace him with Miles anyhow.

Don't even get me started on MCU Spider-Man. They butchered him so hard for how popular he is, yet didn't recieve the same backlash Superman and Batman have in recent movies. It really goes to show just how casual the MCU audience is that Spider-Man of all characters could be raped on screen to massive applause meanwhile people cry that Superman doesn't smile and save kittens.

The casual audience doesn't care about comic books or superhereos. They just care whether they got a few chuckles with their popcorn and then let social media dictate the rest of their opinions. DC bad, Marvel good. These movies are no longer made for comic book fans by comic book fans which shows when you compare how Raimi approached Spider-Man, to what Sony churned out after, and now the MCU. People gave Snyder sh*t out of ignorance, but you can never convince me the dude isn't a huge fan of the material regardless of how one may feel about him as a director.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 01:37 PM

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Don't even get me started on MCU Spider-Man. They butchered him so hard for how popular he is, yet didn't recieve the same backlash Superman and Batman have in recent movies. It really goes to show just how casual the MCU audience is that Spider-Man of all characters could be raped on screen to massive applause meanwhile people cry that Superman doesn't smile and save kittens.

The casual audience doesn't care about comic books or superhereos. They just care whether they got a few chuckles with their popcorn and then let social media dictate the rest of their opinions. DC bad, Marvel good. These movies are no longer made for comic book fans by comic book fans which shows when you compare how Raimi approached Spider-Man, to what Sony churned out after, and now the MCU. People gave Snyder sh*t out of ignorance, but you can never convince me the dude isn't a huge fan of the material regardless of how one may feel about him as a director.

All I'll say is that neither DC or Marvel deserve any praise at this point. Their comics and their movies (and their shows too, really) are garbage nowadays. Anyway, now that I made enemies of everyone in this forum, I'll just see myself out. Goodnight, everybody!

*Andrew NDB* · 06-21-2022, 01:44 PM

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Anyway, now that I made enemies of everyone in this forum

Yeesh. This again?

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 01:44 PM

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All I'll say is that neither DC or Marvel deserve any praise at this point. Their comics and their movies (and their shows too, really) are garbage nowadays. Anyway, now that I made enemies of everyone in this forum, I'll just see myself out. Goodnight, everybody!

DC is definitely terrible now with everything they've done in reaction to Marvel. Snyder carved himself a niche and gave us something different, but like cowards, WB had to overreact and throw more color and humor into everything while burying the only good thing they had going.

Also, LMAO! What kind of gimmick is this? We're enemies because we both don't like MCU Spider-Man?

*Andrew NDB* · 06-21-2022, 01:46 PM

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Also, LMAO! What kind of gimmick is this?

It has to be, right? Or some kind of abandonment/persecution complex. "You're going to leave me, aren't you?! I know it!!" so then they sabotage things themselves and make it a reality.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 01:50 PM

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Also, LMAO! What kind of gimmick is this? We're enemies because we both don't like MCU Spider-Man?

No, because I don't like the DCEU. Or most of DC's crap, really. I'd accentuate this with some kind of vomit emote if it existed on here.

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It has to be, right? Or some kind of abandonment/persecution complex. "You're going to leave me, aren't you?! I know it!!" so then they sabotage things themselves and make it a reality.

Kind of weird you say this given that you've laid into me pretty hard because of disagreements we've had. Many of you have, really. I'm apparently some woketard monster, according to you guys. And maybe that's true.

At this point, I've accepted that I'm pretty hated online.

*Autbot_Benz* · 06-21-2022, 01:50 PM

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. Great legacy there!.

Spider-Man still exists in the MCU the spell was to erase Peter Parker from everyone's mind not Spidey.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-21-2022, 01:53 PM

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Spider-Man still exists in the MCU the spell was to erase Peter Parker from everyone's mind.

It is a very odd choice. I get that they wanted sacrifice... but maybe sacrificing all of the character developments over the past three movies plus Civil War wasn't the best choice? I'm sure Peter will get around to re-filling in Ned and MJ about who he is (probably there will be a "love transcends all/breaks all barriers" where all of the memories come flooding back to MJ in the 4th film) but what about all of the Avengers? It's pretty needless.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 01:54 PM

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Spider-Man still exists in the MCU the spell was to erase Peter Parker from everyone's mind not Spidey.

Yeah, I know, genius.

But for all intents and purposes, Peter Parker doesn't exist anymore. Nobody knows who he is. Aunt May, if she had survived, wouldn't have either. All of his accomplishments and his identity are gone. I don't see how he can even go to college (or finish high school even) at this point since Peter Parker isn't a real being anymore. He'd have to make up a new identity or something. The whole thing was f*cking stupid.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-21-2022, 01:56 PM

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I don't see how he can even go to college (or finish high school even) at this point since Peter Parker isn't a real being anymore. He'd have to make up a new identity or something.

Wait... this isn't right, is it? I thought the spell was that just everyone on the planet would be forced to forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, or any chain of memories intersecting with knowledge of him being Spider-Man.

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 01:57 PM

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No, because I don't like the DCEU. Or most of DC's crap, really.

So that makes us enemies? Are we gonna duel or something?

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 01:58 PM

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So that makes us enemies? Are we gonna duel or something?

Who even are you? You just showed up out of nowhere today, and started posting everywhere, and acting like you've been here the entire time.

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Wait... this isn't right, is it? I thought the spell was that just everyone on the planet would be forced to forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, or any chain of memories intersecting with knowledge of him being Spider-Man.

They forgot Peter too. It's not just forgetting him being Spider-Man, they forgot everything associated with Peter. That's why Happy had no idea who Peter was when he saw him at the graveyard. I'm not sure if they forgot Spider-Man. The movie didn't seem to confirm it as far as I remember.

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 02:03 PM

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Who even are you? You just showed up out of nowhere today, and started posting everywhere, and acting like you've been here the entire time.

I've been here far longer than you, so it's quite funny you think I came from outta nowhere when it's you who popped in suddenly talking about being a girl and now everyone hating you which I've somehow now been roped into despite this being like our first major interaction.

Also, Spider-Man was referenced in Doctor Strange, so they clearly haven't forgotten about him. They probably just don't know his identity.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 02:06 PM

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I've been here far longer than you, so it's quite funny you think I came from outta nowhere when it's you who popped in suddenly talking about being a girl and now everyone hating you which I've somehow now been roped into despite this being like our first major interaction.

I never said I was a girl in this conversation, but thanks for making it about that. I know you guys totally have no issues with that. Nope. None at all.

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 02:09 PM

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I never said I was a girl in this conversation, but thanks for making it about that. I know you guys totally have no issues with that. Nope. None at all.

Figured it was worth mentioning since we're just questioning who we are apparently because you have problems with me or something.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 02:11 PM

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Figured it was worth mentioning since we're just questioning who we are apparently because you have problems with me or something.

That has nothing to do with the conversation, but you just brought it up as a means to slander me. How very mature of you. I guess I struck a little nerve by saying I hated the DCEU, huh? Oopsie!

~~Sumac~~ · 06-21-2022, 02:12 PM

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Minority opinion or whatever, but I hate what they've done to Peter in the MCU now.

Second movie was one of the worst in MCU, but No Way Home was a masterpiece and one of the best in the MCU, IMO.

I might disagree with its ultimate direction, but as a trilogy stands now, it is pretty strong subseries with a direction and finale.

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Don't even get me started on MCU Spider-Man. They butchered him so hard for how popular he is, yet didn't recieve the same backlash Superman and Batman have in recent movies. It really goes to show just how casual the MCU audience is that Spider-Man of all characters could be raped on screen to massive applause meanwhile people cry that Superman doesn't smile and save kittens.

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Holland makes a decent Peter, much better than a crybaby McQuire.

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Originally Posted by Turo602

The casual audience doesn't care about comic books or superhereos. They just care whether they got a few chuckles with their popcorn and then let social media dictate the rest of their opinions. DC bad, Marvel good. These movies are no longer made for comic book fans by comic book fans which shows when you compare how Raimi approached Spider-Man, to what Sony churned out after, and now the MCU. People gave Snyder sh*t out of ignorance, but you can never convince me the dude isn't a huge fan of the material regardless of how one may feel about him as a director.

Yeah, sure, mate, no-one knows what is a good movie and everyone who disagrees with you only there to munch popcorn. Abso-****ing-lutely, mate.

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DC is definitely terrible now with everything they've done in reaction to Marvel. Snyder carved himself a niche and gave us something different

He carved niche called "I am the ****ing edgy teenager" and gave us a pile of ****.
Yeah, its different. Doesn't mean it is good.

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It is a very odd choice. I get that they wanted sacrifice... but maybe sacrificing all of the character developments over the past three movies plus Civil War wasn't the best choice?

Peter himself has all his developments and arguably stronger and better person for it. So, I guess, that what counts.
I don't agree with this direction, because, I know it will be undone, but on its own it is an interesting choice, which could have interesting twists.

*Turo602* · 06-21-2022, 02:12 PM

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That has nothing to do with the conversation, but you just brought it up as a means to slander me. How very mature of you. I guess I struck a little nerve by saying I hated the DCEU, huh? Oopsie!

Nah, we agreed the DCEU is trash. Again, this problem seems to be all in your head.

superstaff · 06-21-2022, 02:14 PM

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Nah, we agreed the DCEU is trash. Again, this problem seems to be all in your head.

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Don't even get me started on MCU Spider-Man. They butchered him so hard for how popular he is, yet didn't recieve the same backlash Superman and Batman have in recent movies. It really goes to show just how casual the MCU audience is that Spider-Man of all characters could be raped on screen to massive applause meanwhile people cry that Superman doesn't smile and save kittens.

Sounds like someone who liked the DCEU to me. If you don't, cool. I don't care.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-21-2022, 02:16 PM

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