So is you-know-who back in the running?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Bush Jr was incompetent

More like, "In over his head but he knew that", which created its own set of problems. He was in some respects the "Anti-Trump"; Trump is known for disregarding any and all advice anyone ever gave him, whereas W. Bush was notorious for asking everyone around him for advice and deferring far too often to far too many people, many of whom had conflicting/opposing viewpoints. He wanted the job for family/personal reasons but he knew he wasn't really cut out for it. He ended up being a weak leader because he had no confidence in himself and let other people direct him.

Whether that makes him Better or Worse than Trump probably comes down to personal preference. Me, I did fine under W.; I had few complaints during those years. I think if it's a case of two people who aren't suited for a job, any job at all, and they both get it, the one who takes "too much" direction is probably better in the long run than the one who never listens to anyone and insists he's right all the time. There's more long-term upside in the Former than the Latter.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The left is obsessed with Hitler, and Trump has become their modern day equivalent.

It's really interesting. They really want to make Trump out to be the Hitler figure (he isn't, in any way, beyond pockets of the rubes he "inspires") while everything they're doing in politics, little by little, is the actual textbook fascism and even racism. They are the ones obsessed with control. Control over you, your kids, what you say (controlling and manipulating the language is literally their favorite thing), what is in your entertainment, what is in the school, who needs to be ruined and cancelled, all of these things. The very nature of pushing ESG into 401Ks now (I open my 401K now and there it is, "We dedicate ourselves to ESG values!") and all sorts of investments.

[Leo656]

Almost every one of those things are things the Republicans ALSO do and are presently doing.

"It's WORSE on THAT side, though!" It actually really isn't. It's a matter of angle and degree, at best.

Let's be real; when one side is openly calling for an official National Religion you are officially only a few steps away from having an Actual Cult be put in charge of things. That is WAY worse than the stupid "Diversity Checklist" for movies and TV shows, and all that other pissy crap. I hate that sh*t too but if you think that is WORSE than letting cult fanatics be put officially in charge of government, that is really bad forward thinking.

I mean these people are adults, they have imaginary friends, AND take advice from them. Those People belong in padded cells, not government office.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Almost every one of those things are things the Republicans ALSO do and are presently doing.

"It's WORSE on THAT side, though!" It actually really isn't. It's a matter of angle and degree, at best.

Degrees, for sure.

Let's be real; when one side is openly calling for an official National Religion

Who is calling for that, and where? AOC calls for crazy stuff daily, as I'm sure you'd agree. Also, this Marjory Taylor Greene people on the left keep mentioning while I still have no idea who that is and isn't being talked about by remotely anybody I know on the right.

That is WAY worse than the stupid "Diversity Checklist" for movies and TV shows, and all that other pissy crap.

No, I don't agree. Someone, somewhere "calling" for a thing that won't happen isn't the same as actual things happening right now right in front of our eyes.

The only bad thing I think you can point to going on from the right is the striking down of Roe V Wade. And you know I'm all for abortion. But it was a shoddy piece of legalese and it was shot down as a result because it didn't hold constitutional water. Do I wish it was still there and do I agree it was a HORRIBLE thing for republicans to focus on and do, particularly now? Absolutely! I can almost guarantee you that's the one big thing that held back the "red wave" this cycle. Single women are the new big voting block that's emerged, apparently, and boy were they fired up.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The only bad thing I think you can point to going on from the right is the striking down of Roe V Wade. And you know I'm all for abortion. But it was a shoddy piece of legalese and it was shot down as a result because it didn't hold constitutional water. Do I wish it was still there and do I agree it was a HORRIBLE thing for republicans to focus on and do, particularly now? Absolutely! I can almost guarantee you that's the one big thing that held back the "red wave" this cycle. Single women are the new big voting block that's emerged, apparently, and boy were they fired up.

Yeah, it was the absolute worst possible timing. Everyone was getting sick off all the crazy woke trans stuff after this year's pride went off the rails and then they leak the possible overturning of RvW just as many people were willing to side with them to get this woke madness contained.

And to make it worse.... even after hearing the horrible backlash of the leak... the dumb****s go on AND ****ING DO IT ANYWAY.

That pretty ruined the image of Republicans (even worse than usual) permanently.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah, it was the absolute worst possible timing. Everyone was getting sick off all the crazy woke trans stuff after this year's pride went off the rails and then they leak the possible overturning of RvW.

And to make it worse.... even after hearing the horrible backlash of the leak... the dumb****s go on AND ****ING DO IT ANYWAY.

That pretty ruined the image of Republicans (even worse than usual) permanently.

True. Even I didn't think that would get overturned, but I didn't really do enough homework into the letter of the law... but wow, yes, I did do a deep dive and it was pretty yikes. And hollow. STILL! Horrible timing. And they should have just let it alone, regardless. And if Leo wants to beat the "religion is evil" drum, yes, this was probably a thing solely motivated by religion. This one time. But if the actual legalese had been airtight, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

Though "evil"? If you're religious -- and as you know, I am not -- you believe killing unborn lives is wrong. We can argue this or that, when life begins, but they're not coming from any place resembling an evil one. They're coming from a sound and good one. Now, do I think they should f*** off and let it be, anyway? YES! But I don't believe for one moment the effort to try and stop abortions is an evil thing.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

True. Even I didn't think that would get overturned, but I didn't really do enough homework into the letter of the law... but wow, yes, I did do a deep dive and it was pretty yikes. And hollow. STILL! Horrible timing. And they should have just let it alone, regardless. And if Leo wants to beat the "religion is evil" drum, yes, this was probably a thing solely motivated by religion. This one time. But if the actual legalese had been airtight, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I mean, had Obama done his job.... had 8 whole years to do it. But I figure the dope felt it was airtight and whatnot. Or just never really cared about it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I mean, had Obama done his job.... had 8 whole years to do it. But I figure the dope felt it was airtight and whatnot. Or just never really cared about it.

It kind of comes down to there is just no way to Tetris in "abortion" into the constitution. Essentially. It just wasn't a thing they allotted for in it, no matter how they retroactively try to make it fit by this vague bit of text or the other one. Roe V Wade basically said "there is something in there, somewhere in the Constitution that would allow this, and later on we'll figure out where" and turns out, nope. Is my understanding.

Which is where the "we need to burn the constitution and start anew!" types come in. Though I don't know. Can we not just make a new amendment that's pro-abortion and just vote on it now and get it over with? Why is this difficult? I'd vote yes, for sure. As long as the door isn't open to abortions like 4.5-9 months. And yes, while we like to believe they're not happening, the door is wide open for 9 month abortions and they are happening willy nilly in blue states including my own.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The left is obsessed with Hitler

In other words, they're narcissists.

[1987]

Leftist media already with the hit pieces

[ProphetofGanja]

What a chaotic time to be alive

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by 1987

Leftist media already with the hit pieces

https://i.imgur.com/70vOW0k.jpg?2

https://i.imgur.com/5Grcsu8.jpg?3

Yep. They can't help themselves. They could just say former president Trump announced he's running again in 2024 but they just gotta add alllll the potshots in there.

[ChosenOne]

Setting themselves up to be hit back: "Donald Trump, whose legitimate election was overturned, launches 2024 bid"

[Cowabung-Gal]

If Trump wins the 2024 election, we will have another Jan 6, but by Antifa this time. The media will call them “heroes” instead of “insurrectionists”, bail them out of jail almost immediately, and award them with Amazon gift cards and a free trip to Epstein Island.

But in order for Trump to win, he’ll have to provide actual solutions instead of just ragging on Biden and the Democrats for their failures. Also, no more mail-in ballots, but of course the Democrats won’t agree to that, like ever.

[Vegita-San]

>>He attacked through insurrection, threatened Pence/family's life and stolen more than 700 classified doments with several of them oddly missing. Not only 14th Amendment Section 3 should be invoked now but I rather re-elect Nixon over this tiny handed crybaby of a bankrupt SOAB.>>

when you wonder if responding to someone like this on twitter is even worth the effort

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

>>He attacked through insurrection, threatened Pence/family's life and stolen more than 700 classified doments with several of them oddly missing. Not only 14th Amendment Section 3 should be invoked now but I rather re-elect Nixon over this tiny handed crybaby of a bankrupt SOAB.>>

when you wonder if responding to someone like this on twitter is even worth the effort

It's a waste of time, but at least you'll ruin his day. Best case scenario, they blow a gasket and pop a blood vessel over their own stupid obsession.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It's a waste of time, but at least you'll ruin his day. Best case scenario, they blow a gasket and pop a blood vessel over their own stupid obsession.

Sounds like even a butterfly landing on him would ruin his day.

[Cowabung-Gal]

So now that Nancy Pelosi is out of the job, the Democrats have no more use of her, which means that they will no longer cover up for her husband or his drug dealer/secret lover/whoever he was to the old man. Get ready for another media crucifixion.

[ChosenOne]

Sad to see Nancy go. Now who's Trump gonna troll mercilessly in his third term?

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So now that Nancy Pelosi is out of the job, the Democrats have no more use of her, which means that they will no longer cover up for her husband or his drug dealer/secret lover/whoever he was to the old man. Get ready for another media crucifixion.

one could hope. but they'd probably only do that for leverage on something.
don't trash for free....political modo