M3gan

[Coola Yagami]

Anyone interested in this movie? A girl lost her parents and her aunt isn't equipped to watch over her so she lets a new robot doll she created watch over her. At first it looks like it takes the 'protect Cady from any physical and emotional harm a little too serious, but the trailer looks like she eventually goes full AWOL.



Love the premise. It's too bad they didn't do it sooner before that Chucky reboot movie went in a similar direction.

Similar to the Smile marketing campaign, a bunch of 'M3GAN' took over a sporting event's halftime show.

[ssjup81]

Oh we are so going to watch this movie Coola Yagami. It’s creepy looking and AI gone rogue, but given the premise, curious how M3GAN will be dealt with. I hope the ending isn’t set up to have a sequel. Stand-alone films seem to be such a rarity these days.

[Coola Yagami]

We'll have to see. The marketing campaign suggests they can be mass produced, hence all the girls walking around dressed like M3GAN clones.

The only thing I don't like about sequels is the more you add to them the further removed you get from the original premise.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

We'll have to see. The marketing campaign suggests they can be mass produced, hence all the girls walking around dressed like M3GAN clones.

The only thing I don't like about sequels is the more you add to them the further removed you get from the original premise.

That’s why I don’t want a sequel and why I’m worried about one coming about…the mass production of M3gan. Maybe they’ll all get destroyed.

[IMJ]

We are looking forward to this one here in the house as well.

[Andrew NDB]

I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

LOL it's always gotta be hard R for you, doesn't it?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

I take that to mean that it will be more of a thriller than "robot horror", you know?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

LOL it's always gotta be hard R for you, doesn't it?

With horror movies about a lot of murdering yeah, generally. And I just read they actually shot a bunch of R material but then went back in and reshot it all as PG-13... which is certainly something I can't respect, remotely.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

With horror movies about a lot of murdering yeah, generally. And I just read they actually shot a bunch of R material but then went back in and reshot it all as PG-13... which is certainly something I can't respect, remotely.

Agree with Andrew on this as generally it's done in practice to try to get more money at the box office to avoid that R rating. Studios tend to hinder/cut down pivotal moments and scenes so it gets a PG-13 allowing younger audiences to see it and get in more screenings.

That said, this movie looks ridiculously b-movie goofy, and looks like a fun laugh at how silly it is.

[The Deadman]

For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

That said, this movie looks ridiculously b-movie goofy, and looks like a fun laugh at how silly it is.

Which is why the PG-13 rating doesn't bother me much. Doesn't look like it's to be taken seriously.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

And for the thousandth time what seems to be endemic to a lot of people is a general sense of "R rated just means you can swear and blood." Also, you're not clever or cool for taking that stance. No, it's quite a bit more than that. It's characters being allowed to talk and react believably like real people in real situations. It means you can show even one kick to a head. It means you can show actual graphic consequences to violence, which is an important piece of being able to buy into whatever it is you're watching... moreso the more fantastical it is.

Now, insert killer doll movie where a doll starts murdering a lot of people. You won't have people talking or reacting believably to it. There won't be any or definitive visual data on the kills going on. There won't be anything. Maybe a music score with a lot of "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAM"s. Great.

And what exactly are some post-modern horror movies that are great that are rated PG-13? What, The Ring? No, not scary. "Spooky kids" has become a popularized thing but I've never found it very horrific in and of itself.

[Sumac]

I smell some people will find themselves a new fetish.

Other than that, it can be either very creepy (if played right) or very stupid, because, premise like this is barely above Chucky-level.

And it reminds me about the movie Toy Soldiers with some Artificial Intelligence thrown in.

As for the blood: yeah, it'd be unfortunate, if in the movie about killing doll, they won't show much of it. Like, this is a horror movie about doll killing people, why bother with making it a family one?!

On a technical level, I wonder how they executed doll dancing and jumping - was it an actress or a pure CGI?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I smell some people will find themselves a new fetish.

Other than that, it can be either very creepy (if played right) or very stupid, because, premise like this is barely above Chucky-level.

And it reminds me about the movie Toy Soldiers with some Artificial Intelligence thrown in.

As for the blood: yeah, it'd be unfortunate, if in the movie about killing doll, they won't show much of it. Like, this is a horror movie about doll killing people, why bother with making it a family one?!

On a technical level, I wonder how they executed doll dancing and jumping - was it an actress or a pure CGI?

Actress dancing with a plastic doll mask. Extra CGI for the face details added in post I assume.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

I think a lot of people understand that, but it also speaks to the kind of horror a film is trying to capture.

The Ring & Pulse pulled it off as PG-13 but those movies spoke to a sense of personal dread in ways that were "scary". Whereas a movie like Silent Hill (the first one) sort of had to go the "R" route to really capture what it was doing.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Actress dancing with a plastic doll mask. Extra CGI for the face details added in post I assume.

Yeah I would say very similar to how the robot was done so convincingly in Zathura. Perfected hybrid approach.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I think a lot of people understand that, but it also speaks to the kind of horror a film is trying to capture.

The Ring & Pulse pulled it off as PG-13 but those movies spoke to a sense of personal dread in ways that were "scary". Whereas a movie like Silent Hill (the first one) sort of had to go the "R" route to really capture what it was doing.



Yeah I would say very similar to how the robot was done so convincingly in Zathura. Perfected hybrid approach.

Yeah, it's all over those Youtube shorts and Instagram stories. They show the entire dance sequence uninterrupted (you know, without cutaway shots or close ups or whatever) and then the actress taking off the mask post filming.

[Bahamut810]

Movies like this are why I am like "Man I love AI in movies," then when I see some news that 'we taught AI to do XYZ' I am like "WHY HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM THESE MOVIES?"

[Andrew NDB]

This seems actually pretty close to the Child's Play remake where Chucky wasn't a voodoo possessed doll but purely AI gone wrong. Except that was more about Chucky interfacing with your Alexa type stuff... which might even be in this.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

This seems actually pretty close to the Child's Play remake where Chucky wasn't a voodoo possessed doll but purely AI gone wrong. Except that was more about Chucky interfacing with your Alexa type stuff... which might even be in this.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kinda wish the Chucky reboot didn't go with the corrupt AI route because that will just draw more and more comparisons to that one. I'm sure even if it stuck with 'voodoo possessed doll' it would have drawn comparisons anyway, but now people can call this a Chucky rip off.