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Old 06-13-2023, 10:02 AM   #481
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Three weeks now since release.
Filmmaking Expenses Before Marketing and Black Books: $250 million
Industry Estimated Marketing Expenses: $140 million
$390 million total
Total Current Box Office: $415 million

There are always other hidden expenses, costs of credit costs that would add to the total expenses as well. But then, there are also hidden profits from tax breaks etc. I'd say in the end this movie breaks even or squeaks by with a profit so small that wasn't worth making it.

But in the long run they will also have some DVD and streaming sales. So I wouldn't call it a "failure" but I would call it another reality check. I'd say that on a long enough timeline it will make it's money back.
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Old 06-13-2023, 12:52 PM   #482
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Disney have greenlit a spin-off series for Disney Junior, Disney's Ariel

https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/d...id-1235642365/

Yeah, NOW they use an accurate f*cking Flounder
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Old 06-13-2023, 03:34 PM   #483
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Some of the comments for this video:

ClownfishTV:
It COULD be a one-off to tie into the movie. But usually, when a character gets a race swap once, they tend to STAY swapped because of the fear of backlash.

TheLunarLegend:
Yep, from now on anyone that draws Ariel white will be called a racist. How it always goes, once a character is race swapped the crazies will never let it go back.

hope-cat4894:
So, by keeping Ariel black, that means raceswaps can be permanent, which gives credence to complaints about replacing white characters. This is a no-win situation. This show might not last anyways since Disney has been losing families with all the politics.

freedantheeternal:
"Imagine debating over a fictional character" is always the go to for people who have nothing to say, but screech in rage if those same fictional characters don't fit THEIR desires. How many freaking Twitter freaks have lost their s*** over characters being straight and thus not validating their headcanon shipping again?

hyperjohnua9324:
It never had anything to do with finding the best actress for the role, it had everything to do with erasing another ginger and giving blacks the sloppy seconds of whites because they only see legitimacy in white characters, theyll even erase original black characters just to do it

JagerBomb9120:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Folks, they DO NOT want a seat at the table. They want YOUR seat at the table, and they will kick you to the dirt as soon as they can.

ToxieDogg:
Of course. The argument 'It's only a fictional character, why you mad bro?' only ever works in one direction and if they dare try to put out any new material with a white Ariel from now on they'll be accused of genocide and erasure

wargamesmaster:
So... Disney is basically saying blackface is ok now?

JacenGreysRetroCulture:
Disney: "Diversity! Its all about diversity!"
Gingers: "Bruh!"

roguefox1023:
“Once she goes black, she can never go back!” -Disney

KingRumar:
Yeah they dug themselves into this hole and now they can’t backtrack Ariel to her original design lest they prove themselves racist from the side they’re catering and if they went back they’re deemed race-baiting by the former fans who saw through their s***. They’d rather stay buried deep underground than to prove their opposition correct

infinity_flair:
I had a really strong feeling they'd mothball Classic Ariel. They might continue to license collectors figures and merchandise, but I believe New Ariel is here to stay. Activists won't accept anything less but total promotion of the new version as the new normal

RaiRai214:
I want a ginger retelling of Princess and the Frog. And if we want to make them extra mad, make her blonde

Nonjola:
Well, it is the same issue we have with April O'Neil, Velma, and She-Ra. Now that new writers came in and changed the characters to fit current year taste, you can not change them back, otherwise people, who like the new versions, will get mad. Ariel stays black, April O'Neil stays black as well, She-Ra will be a lesbian from now on, Velma will be a lesbian as well and probably Indian, etc. I mean, they can create new characters, but, then again, they will be probably just end up as forgettable token characters such as with Ethan from Strange World

dwood78part23:
Many Black folks including myself are tried of the race swapping of characters, rather than creating or using original ideas- including from Black creators- many who have good ideas, but are having a hard time getting attention in Hollywood.
& they keep wondering why their productions keep failing.

Leamichellefan2244:
The stupidity is going to blow up in the face of Disney in the most glorious way. I need to remind everyone that all of the toys from this abomination are still sitting on the shelves at 20% off light because children do not want them. They want the real Ariel they want the real Sebastian. They want the real flounder someone and so on and so forth they don’t want this. Children are not stupid.

michaelfields7088:
TWITTER GRANDMA: "I dont care what they tell you in school, Ariel is black."
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Old 06-13-2023, 03:38 PM   #484
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Old 06-13-2023, 04:14 PM   #485
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Old 06-13-2023, 04:39 PM   #486
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Why are Koreans supposed to care about woke American BS? The arrogance of our country, I swear.
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Old 06-14-2023, 11:27 AM   #487
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Man, Disney is really trying to get people to see this movie in theaters. They have released so many full clips of the songs.

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Old 06-14-2023, 12:33 PM   #488
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Man, Disney is really trying to get people to see this movie in theaters. They have released so many full clips of the songs.
Which is weird, because that's the opposite of how you accomplish that.
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Old 06-14-2023, 12:51 PM   #489
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Old 06-14-2023, 07:38 PM   #490
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Man, Disney is really trying to get people to see this movie in theaters. They have released so many full clips of the songs.


I'll watch it for free when it comes out in HD on the illegal streaming websites. But they won't get 1 red cent of money from me.
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Old 06-14-2023, 08:17 PM   #491
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I'll watch it for free when it comes out in HD on the illegal streaming websites. But they won't get 1 red cent of money from me.
In this case, I actually applaud you.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:25 PM   #492
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I'll watch it for free when it comes out in HD on the illegal streaming websites. But they won't get 1 red cent of money from me.
I respect you not giving money to this movie but is it worth watching even pirated? I can't bring myself to even watch the music videos uploaded by Disney, it looks that ugly.
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Old 06-14-2023, 10:12 PM   #493
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I respect you not giving money to this movie but is it worth watching even pirated? I can't bring myself to even watch the music videos uploaded by Disney, it looks that ugly.
The 1.5x speed option works wonders.
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Old 06-15-2023, 12:01 PM   #494
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Well this isn’t good. If I were Disney I'd remove this person from the home media version and when it comes to Disney+ as well even if he only appears momentarily.

https://torontosun.com/entertainment...little-mermaid
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Old 06-15-2023, 02:14 PM   #495
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Well this isn’t good. If I were Disney I'd remove this person from the home media version and when it comes to Disney+ as well even if he only appears momentarily.

https://torontosun.com/entertainment...little-mermaid
So because a guy used to make porn, and found a bit part in a movie that has nothing to do with any of that, you want him removed or cancelled.

Yet you are here on the forums cheerleading a movie about a young, barely dressed girl swimming around wearing almost nothing as a fantasy mermaid that, as an adult male there is literally no reason for you to go see or be engaged with.

But you want to remove a guy doing an authentic job who break free of his previous job even if only for a bit part. But you want to go to see the children's movie, "The Little Mermaid" for repeat viewings. The ex-porn star guy seems like less of a weirdo threat than you.
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Old 06-15-2023, 02:30 PM   #496
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Well this isn’t good. If I were Disney I'd remove this person from the home media version and when it comes to Disney+ as well even if he only appears momentarily.

https://torontosun.com/entertainment...little-mermaid

Well, that explains THIS interesting tweet:


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What the…

“Kink”???

Way to prove the concerned parents right. Again.

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1663268933347028992
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Old 06-16-2023, 06:47 AM   #498
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She made pretty bad job as Chief Finance Officer, I guess.
Now, this maybe offtopic, but why Kennedy is still there?
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Here's the full “Kiss the Girl” musical number. According to interviews, this was actually the first scene that was filmed.




Also, Melissa McCarthy believes that when she wanted to meet Rob Marshall and see if he was interested in having her play Ursula, she believed that she wasn’t on his list at all, especially because she never considered herself to be a singer.

https://fb.watch/ldOud35bY6/
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Old 06-23-2023, 08:21 PM   #500
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I really think they nailed the casting for Vanessa/Ursula's alter-ego. This was Jessica Alexander's first major movie role and she was simply fantastic.



In other news, the film has been a box office success in the Phillippines and Japan.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...sh-1235521433/
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