Gay pride

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Why else would you use a compass?

In flat earth belief, they claim magnetism only has one pole -- the north. The south doesn't exist.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

In flat earth belief, they claim magnetism only has one pole -- the north. The south doesn't exist.

Not that kind of compass, the ones used for drawing circles.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Well that’s stupid. Sounds like they have flat brains themselves

Quoting the bible to make a scientific point doesn‘t make you any smarter than those guys.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Quoting the bible to make a scientific point doesn‘t make you any smarter than those guys.

While I'm not religious in the slightest, I always feel obliged to point out that while I can't subscribe to anything religious... I respect it. I didn't when I was a high schooler. I wanted religion taken down as the obvious hoax that it seemed to be. And honestly, you can point out any hole in the bible and I'll probably agree with you. But I'd still 1000% rather have a neighbor that is Christian/Catholic over an atheist hard leftist, easily. It wouldn't even be a consideration. Yeah, "The Church" has its share of problems and attracts a certain sort in certain circles, but at least a general sense of faith and "I'm accountable to a higher power" imbues real moral values when it works. The opposing view is kinda... nothing at all. Or full on leftism, which has full-on become its own religion in every sense of the word. And now we have narcissism and are actively baking a nice cake of nihilism and suddenly we don't know what a woman is beyond a costume. Basically the media and the "news" is the new church ("Hello, CNN and late night talk show hosts and the View, what am I supposed to be thinking today?"). And sure, you can point to Fox News as being guilty of similar behavior, but it's not coming from a place of ideology. It's mostly just pointing out ridiculous stuff and having a laugh, at length. As best as I can figure. Which annoys the left. I'm not an avid watcher of anything in particular, I watch both sides so I try to keep a pretty peripheral view of things as best as I can, but it is admittedly difficult.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Quoting the bible to make a scientific point doesn‘t make you any smarter than those guys.

Would it make me smarter if I used the description “schnitzel-shaped” instead of “flat”?

[Mayhem]

Flat-Earthism has always been a very minority held view throughout history anyhow, even back in ancient times when (mistakenly) people today think there was no enlightenment and that everyone back then thought it was. The fact there's a horizon and that you can see further the higher up you are in the sky is the simplest of proofs that the Earth can't be entirely flat. Otherwise I'd be able to see Australia once I cleared enough height above where I currently reside to get past the mountains etc.

Then again, there are probably people in this world who don't believe Australia exists...!

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...t-wont-go-away

[Coola Yagami]

I honestly don't know how flat-Earthers can exist among all the technology that exists.

I mean c'mon. You really think Disney or whoever wouldn't sell tickets for people to see the edge of the earth and make bank on that?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

The fact there's a horizon and that you can see further the higher up you are in the sky is the simplest of proofs that the Earth can't be entirely flat. Otherwise I'd be able to see Australia once I cleared enough height above where I currently reside to get past the mountains etc.

No, you wouldn't. Rayleigh scattering would blue it out.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

While I'm not religious in the slightest, I always feel obliged to point out that while I can't subscribe to anything religious... I respect it. I didn't when I was a high schooler. I wanted religion taken down as the obvious hoax that it seemed to be. And honestly, you can point out any hole in the bible and I'll probably agree with you. But I'd still 1000% rather have a neighbor that is Christian/Catholic over an atheist hard leftist, easily. It wouldn't even be a consideration. Yeah, "The Church" has its share of problems and attracts a certain sort in certain circles, but at least a general sense of faith and "I'm accountable to a higher power" imbues real moral values when it works. The opposing view is kinda... nothing at all. Or full on leftism, which has full-on become its own religion in every sense of the word. And now we have narcissism and are actively baking a nice cake of nihilism and suddenly we don't know what a woman is beyond a costume. Basically the media and the "news" is the new church ("Hello, CNN and late night talk show hosts and the View, what am I supposed to be thinking today?"). And sure, you can point to Fox News as being guilty of similar behavior, but it's not coming from a place of ideology. It's mostly just pointing out ridiculous stuff and having a laugh, at length. As best as I can figure. Which annoys the left. I'm not an avid watcher of anything in particular, I watch both sides so I try to keep a pretty peripheral view of things as best as I can, but it is admittedly difficult.

I don't know about all that, I've never met any of the crazy leftist that people go on and on about here. I'm not saying they don't exist, maybe it's more of an American thing because of your two party world? Most of my friends are liberals but no one seems insane or fit your description in any way.

I do know many conservative Christians since my family consists of devout Catholics. I also live next door to some anti-migration, climate change sceptical right-wingers who happen to be my in-laws and we all get along fine. Just don't bother trying to convince each other about anything.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Okay…? Yet you indicated that I was some sort of conspiracist. I’m not a flat-Earther, and I don’t believe that aliens built the pyramids or that the moon landing was fake. But when things don’t add up or are looking rather suspicious, and when people in power slip up and accidentally reveal their true intentions, I’m not gonna shut up just because Uncle Sam wants me to.

Believing in global elites trying to force normal people to do something is conspiracy.
Partially, because, it is very obvious that it takes place in real life and partially, because, your ideas of their goals make you look like a lunatic.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So I assume you have a backup plan in case it does hit the fan?

What do you even mean?
Police will confiscate paper money or something?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Believing in global elites trying to force normal people to do something is conspiracy.
Partially, because, it is very obvious that it takes place in real life and partially, because, your ideas of their goals make you look like a lunatic

How many people in WW2 era Europe were called “lunatics” for saying that the Big Baddies were going to round people up and slaughter them?

Originally Posted by Sumac

What do you even mean?
Police will confiscate paper money or something?

They’ll have to confiscate your guns first. And they’ve been trying very hard to do that lately.

And if you’re going to say, “Well, I’ll just get gold”, the government banned ownership of gold during the 1930’s, but the ban was repealed during the 70’s. It might happen again though

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Police will confiscate paper money or something?

Hasn't there been a push recently to stop using actual paper money and make things as digital as possible? Some small places have even stopped taking cash and only use the card swipers.

I mean, even though I doubt this big 'round everyone up' thing will happen in our lifetime, it's a long process and the steps have been underway for years now. It's not gonna happen overnight. But gradual things like phasing out money, phasing out gas stoves, phasing out gasoline-powered cars, making people eat bugs, making everything digital so literally everything you own is much more like a rented service than something you actually personally own.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Concerned Parents: Why are they chanting “We’re coming for your children”?

NBC: Oh, they’ve always said that at Pride events.

Concerned Parents:

Why on Earth did NBC think it was a good idea to say that like it was damage control? That only makes it so much worse!

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Concerned Parents: Why are they chanting “We’re coming for your children”?

NBC: Oh, they’ve always said that at Pride events.

Concerned Parents:

Why on Earth did NBC think it was a good idea to say that like it was damage control? That only makes it so much worse!

I know part of it is tongue in cheek, kinda like 'we're coming for your children to teach them to not grow up to be bigots' while also trolling conservatives with their own assumptions.

But it didn't help to have actual convicted child molesters form part of that one gay choir that was singing 'we're coming for your children' either......

Honestly, I know it's trolling from their end, but the whole 'were coming for your children' when you combine drag queen story hour, them talking about gay sex around grade schoolers, parents taking kids to drag shows and people being half-naked shaking their junk in front of kids at pride parades..... to the average joe on the street the whole 'coming for your children' thing doesn't look like trolling.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

How many people in WW2 era Europe were called “lunatics” for saying that the Big Baddies were going to round people up and slaughter them?

Attitude towards Jews in nazi Germany was very well known and to shame of global community it was ignored, because, of the fear of another big war.
Ignorance doesn't make for good arguments.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

They’ll have to confiscate your guns first. And they’ve been trying very hard to do that lately.

Their attempts will not be successful.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

But gradual things like phasing out money, phasing out gas stoves, phasing out gasoline-powered cars, making people eat bugs, making everything digital so literally everything you own is much more like a rented service than something you actually personally own.

Outside of replacing your personal things with renting, which I agree takes place to a certain extent, none of it is bad. Also, why the **** everyone is so obsessed with "eating bugs"? Its like "5G towers cause COVID" level of retarded.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Honestly, I know it's trolling from their end, but the whole 'were coming for your children' when you combine drag queen story hour, them talking about gay sex around grade schoolers, parents taking kids to drag shows and people being half-naked shaking their junk in front of kids at pride parades..... to the average joe on the street the whole 'coming for your children' thing doesn't look like trolling.

One should think twice before uttering "we are coming for your children" in any context. Especially, when it comes from a group, which a lot of people (rightfully?) suspect in being pedophiles.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Outside of replacing your personal things with renting, which I agree takes place to a certain extent, none of it is bad. Also, why the **** everyone is so obsessed with "eating bugs"? Its like "5G towers cause COVID" level of retarded.

I'm not really sure. I think the general idea is instead of eating meat, eat bugs, even though technically speaking you're still eating animals. There have been pushes for that sort of thing and certain smaller companies have already started sneaking ground up crickets and such as part of the ingredients in their chips.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Honestly, I know it's trolling from their end, but the whole 'were coming for your children' when you combine drag queen story hour, them talking about gay sex around grade schoolers, parents taking kids to drag shows and people being half-naked shaking their junk in front of kids at pride parades..... to the average joe on the street the whole 'coming for your children' thing doesn't look like trolling.

I'm shocked that it's not more obviously noticed by regular people. Boom, there's a sudden -- out of nowhere -- push for drag queen story hour in elementary schools. OK. So surely there's also a push at the same time for, like, burlesque shows with women doing the same, right? Oh, there isn't? So why is it specifically drag queens -- men dressed as women -- that is the focus and what is being pushed? Why is that -- specifically -- so important to these people? And we all know the answer. And so do they.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Attitude towards Jews in nazi Germany was very well known and to shame of global community it was ignored, because, of the fear of another big war.
Ignorance doesn't make for good arguments.

There were all kinds of signs that things would get ugly under a Nazi takeover, one example being the publication of Hitler’s book Mein Kampf. The German Jews dismissed those signs and thought that the Nazis wouldn’t last long enough in power to go to such extremes anyway. Then, before they could escape from Germany, it was too late.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Their attempts will not be successful.

What makes you so certain of that? Because the People won’t let it happen? Most of them still believe in the system and can’t even avert their eyes from the mainstream media, which is the ultimate propaganda tool for the government, so when you reveal ugly truths to them like kids are being exposed to naked guys at Pride parades, they scoff at you and refuse to believe it

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

so when you reveal ugly truths to them like kids are being exposed to naked guys at Pride parades, they scoff at you and refuse to believe it

Or they turn you into the bad guy for pointing it out.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I'm not really sure. I think the general idea is instead of eating meat, eat bugs, even though technically speaking you're still eating animals. There have been pushes for that sort of thing and certain smaller companies have already started sneaking ground up crickets and such as part of the ingredients in their chips.

So what? In some countries people are eating bugs and? It is unrealistic to phase out meat industry in just few years, bar major disaster.
I am not really sure what is rationale behind this conspiracy.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

There were all kinds of signs that things would get ugly under a Nazi takeover, one example being the publication of Hitler’s book Mein Kampf. The German Jews dismissed those signs and thought that the Nazis wouldn’t last long enough in power to go to such extremes anyway. Then, before they could escape from Germany, it was too late.

Do you seriously comparing genocide with phasing out paper money?
Is it a trolling or some brain worms?

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

What makes you so certain of that? Because the People won’t let it happen? Most of them still believe in the system and can’t even avert their eyes from the mainstream media, which is the ultimate propaganda tool for the government, so when you reveal ugly truths to them like kids are being exposed to naked guys at Pride parades, they scoff at you and refuse to believe it

Because, majority of the people won't like it. Grudging acceptance is not a real acceptance - it comes from someone from a country where grudging acceptance was the norm for the whole 20th century and even now.
People can be scared into a submission, but fear doesn't equal brainwashing. As soon as regime changes most of the people will support new thing.

Also, don't think of people as easily manipulated vegetables. You are basically parroting SJW rhetoric at this point.

Everyone have their own reasons for having an opinion and it goes deeper than "muh TV said this and that". Majority of people do not want to think why they support one thing or the other, but its usually comes from ignorance, not malice (like people who support trans, because they don't know disgusting details about them and see them as "oppressed victims").

Like I, myself, less than a decade was a SJW, largely out of ignorance, since I never took my time to sift through their ideology, what it entails and what values and how they are supporting. I just heard: "we are good guys for equality and Gays and Blacks are people too!" which was (and technically still is) completely OK with me. Its just when I got through their ideology and saw their rhetoric in all its sordid details, it has become obvious who they are and what they are really fighting for.

Also, third trans shooter this year. This one also fan of BLM.