Gay pride

[DarkFell]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

It‘s the same with speed limits on highways here. Every study (as well as common sense) indicate that speed limits would reduce carbon emissions significantly but NO - Germans just take too much pride in being the only European country where you could go 130 miles per hour on the highway if you want to.

My stepmom loved driving fast out there on her last international trip before her retirement from The Army base that she served.

My father was stationed in Augsburg back when East and West Germany was still a thing. He brought up Alligator Mountain. I don't know much about it, but it was brought up that it was a rather mean place to drive near.

And yes, fast driving was also brought up.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

We wouldn’t have the UN if that vision was impossible. It’s a start.

Because, UN proved itself to be exactly useful...how?

All they can is to make proclamations, which do not necessitate any consequences. They have peacekeepers, but once again, they are not exactly G.I. Joes who fight dictators and terrorism.

If anything UN proves that international bureaucracy is clumsy and ineffective. Its existence is as effective as an European Union, which is to say not effective at all.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Unless you demoralize the populace to the point where they’ll believe and do anything you ask.

Demoralization is possible only in perpetually declining conditions.

Regardless of how you view recent technological progress and "culture wars" it does not happen in the West, no matter attempts of fear-mongering lefties to say that World is to be flooded, burnt, killed by racists and homophobes, killed, if you don't wear masks / wear masks and whatnot.

For example modern day Russians are extremely passive exactly, because, last decades of Soviet Union had betrayed everything empire stood for, not to mention even before that they didn't had a lot of influence on decisions of government due it being dictatorship.
Than Russians were betrayed by so called "Young Democrats" and promises of the free market. This is how you get extremely complacent population.

AFAIK, nothing like this occurs in the West, despite attempts of both sides to present the world like its being torn apart by either transpedos or rampant Nazis behind every corner.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

All it takes is one edited clip of a tragedy from the mainstream media to turn an entire city of usually rational people into a jungle of inconsolable and destructive animals.

As Agent K said, “A person is smart; people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals”.

While he is not wrong, I've yet to see examples of it in the modern West, when it comes to civilized people.
Not bunch of activists or crazy freaks.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

If I were an SJW or a fascist, I wouldn’t tell the truth and allow people to come to their own conclusions. I’d instead try to manipulate or dumb down the populace and make them my useful idiots.

First, you should be very careful while pretending that you are telling truth.
You yourself is not isolated from manipulations and misinformation. Not to mention personal biases. As such your "truth" might be just as misguided as someone else's lie.

Second, there is such thing as a "useful idiot". Someone who tries their best to help, believing in sanctity of their mission, but in reality they just being (unwillingly) goaded into helping someone's agenda.

You might not realize it, but your proclamations might help other to goad them into web of lies, which is why any statement about "truth" should always be taken with a barge of salt.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The first thing was pretty much CoVid lockdowns.

That second thing was pretty much George Floyd.

Interestingly, despite both events being handled in extremes manipulative manner, they didn't manage to change status quo a lot: people stopped caring about COVID and riots had stopped being a topic and if anything served as another divider for a population.
It doesn't help that BLM was outed as bunch of grifters.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Demoralization is possible only in perpetually declining conditions.

And everything is just hunky dory here in the West?

Originally Posted by Sumac

While he is not wrong, I've yet to see examples of it in the modern West, when it comes to civilized people.
Not bunch of activists or crazy freaks.

Okay, how about the 2016 election? How many “civilized people” suddenly became the most deranged and angriest people on the planet overnight? And how many of them still are to this day? You can thank the mainstream media for that one.

Originally Posted by Sumac

First, you should be very careful while pretending that you are telling truth.
You yourself is not isolated from manipulations and misinformation.

And I could say the same thing about you.

Originally Posted by Sumac

You might not realize it, but your proclamations might help other to goad them into web of lies, which is why any statement about "truth" should always be taken with a barge of salt.

So when someone says that there are only two genders, should I take their proclamation “with a barge of salt” because it conflicts with someone else’s “truth” since they believe that there are more than two? After all, truth is subjective right?

It sounds to me like you’re in denial that the West will ever fall or become dystopian, like the very thought of it scares you. And it is scary. There are many who are trying to keep this country from falling apart and fighting to protect our Constitution from the commies at the White House, but let’s face it: good times make weak men. Americans in general have lived a comfortable life for the last century and it’s made us lazy and even stupid. Many don’t care if the government does strip away our rights as long as they “take care of our needs”, which they do a crappy job of anyway.

[ChosenOne]

I wouldn’t say the European is ineffective. Not when it has succeeded so spectacularly at stomping down and stifling the economies of several member countries, my own included, so that we're forced to import everything from a handful of others.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Interestingly, despite both events being handled in extremes manipulative manner, they didn't manage to change status quo a lot: people stopped caring about COVID and riots had stopped being a topic and if anything served as another divider for a population.
It doesn't help that BLM was outed as bunch of grifters.

Eh, nowadays people are still getting cancelled or in some sort of trouble if they speak ill of the CoVid vaccine or BLM. As recent as that Spiderverse sequel you have character with BLM pins, and people complain about the people that complain about it. Sadly way too people still believe the BLM grift.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

And everything is just hunky dory here in the West?

No, but neither it is anywhere else.
In fact, situation is much better, unless you are terminally online and consume media and news 24/7.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Okay, how about the 2016 election? How many “civilized people” suddenly became the most deranged and angriest people on the planet overnight? And how many of them still are to this day? You can thank the mainstream media for that one.

They are "activists" I was speaking about.
If person suddenly turns into zealous retard overnight they were never normal to begin with.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

And I could say the same thing about you.

I never said I have any kind of "truth".
I now better than that, pardon my arrogance.
I can recommend you to temper your arrogance as well.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So when someone says that there are only two genders, should I take their proclamation “with a barge of salt” because it conflicts with someone else’s “truth” since they believe that there are more than two? After all, truth is subjective right?

Depends on a situation.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

It sounds to me like you’re in denial that the West will ever fall or become dystopian, like the very thought of it scares you. And it is scary. There are many who are trying to keep this country from falling apart and fighting to protect our Constitution from the commies at the White House, but let’s face it: good times make weak men. Americans in general have lived a comfortable life for the last century and it’s made us lazy and even stupid. Many don’t care if the government does strip away our rights as long as they “take care of our needs”, which they do a crappy job of anyway.

It seems you are just a fear-mongering doomer, who is also arrogant and thinks she knows better than anyone else.

And all of those are mistakes.
They are understandable, given the context, but having moderation and humility, as well, as a clear perspective, as opposed to emotional gut reactions and "TAKE THAT" moments, will make you much more palatable to everyone.

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

I wouldn’t say the European is ineffective. Not when it has succeeded so spectacularly at stomping down and stifling the economies of several member countries, my own included, so that we're forced to import everything from a handful of others.

Its less a European strength, but an individual country weakness.
And greed of its elites.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

They are "activists" I was speaking about.
If person suddenly turns into zealous retard overnight they were never normal to begin with.

No, they’re not all “activists”. Not everyone who riots or acts like a total a-hole toward people with different opinions is an activist. Many are just regular people who allow the mainstream media to shape their way of thinking instead of doing the research themselves and coming to their own conclusions, so when the Establishment doesn’t get their way, to quote Joker, “Well, then everyone loses their minds”.

Originally Posted by Sumac

I never said I have any kind of "truth".
I now better than that, pardon my arrogance.
I can recommend you to temper your arrogance as well.

Sure, Dad

Originally Posted by Sumac

It seems you are just a fear-mongering doomer, who is also arrogant and thinks she knows better than anyone else.

Yeah, nowadays, truth-telling is considered to be “fear-mongering”. Maybe I am pessimistic, but if I were to “humble” myself as you think I should, then I’d just become an NPC who mindlessly consumes everything and wouldn’t know what to do when it does hit the fan, except maybe trust that our good friends the government will save the day. (Spoiler alert: they won’t). And I’m capable of changing my perspective on things. For instance, I don’t worship cops anymore like I used to before the lockdowns. Now I know many (but not all) of them are just tools of the system who will do unspeakable and unconstitutional things while using the excuse, “I’m just doing my job”

I don’t know better than everyone else, but I do know better than some in a couple of areas, like you do.

One of the most crucial mistakes a person can make is to get into the mindset of “That could never happen to me.”

[Cowabung-Gal]

I’m sorry, but remind me again, how are these people the most oppressed group in America?

But you gotta admit, THIS is hilarious: