Donald Trump Hush money trial - Page 26

~~Sumac~~ · 10-05-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

americans take america and freedom and liberty seriously.

Apparently some people think American idea of "freedom" is a joke and its better to be a lapdog of a state and never challenge what state propaganda tells you.

~~Sumac~~ · 10-05-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

1) All presidents have made questionable decisions during their terms, Republican and Democrat. Hell, people are still trying to get Bill C on his affairs, and Dubya on the fake WMD invasion of Iraq long after they’ve left office. I made the point simply for you to highlight what Biden and Obama have done before and/or after leaving office that would require them to be charged with a serious crime. As generally you are immune to prosecution while President. Trump? Well, where do you start there on either side of his term…

That is not the point.
The point is, as of now, his trial is politically motivated. Its not about dirty businessman was caught doing dirty business, it is one party is trying to eliminate their opponent by any means necessary. Which creates a serious and dangerous precedent for any kind of political freedoms.

And before you start crying about "slippery slop, never happuns", this is EXACTLY how it happens. When group of power hungry bandits feel they have freedom to dictate others what to do and they know others won't challenge them, they become more and more arrogant. This is what had happened here. And a lot of people were saying: "nah, it won't happen", guess where they are now...

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

2) I don’t drink KoolAid or anything blue for that matter.

For someone kool-aid free, you sound suspiciously like someone who drinks it.

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

3) Oh they would, I think the fact a tiny minority of hard line Republicans in Congress almost caused the government to lockdown and default on its debts a few days ago is proof of that.

Well, here we go. Need I say more?
You don't drink blue kool-aid, yet, lawful political games, as strange as they can be, is considered some sort of what...attempt at dictatorship? Stealing power?

*Andrew NDB* · 10-05-2023, 04:46 PM

"Government to lockdown"? I know you guys love lockdowns, but this was (and could still be, after 40 days) a government "shutdown." But it's a joke. The government doesn't really shut down and everybody gets paid eventually. There were government "shutdowns" under both Obama and Trump and these weren't like devastating things.

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 10-06-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Not the case here, I like most Americans, the people in general are good. It's the Government and other large institutions that get a dimmer view, whoever happens to be in power.

I'll also point you to the fact that violent crime is reducing, people coming into the country is reducing, inflation is reducing, but yes, still higher than pre COVID levels.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/22/bid...nflation-crime

Violent crime is not reducing, it’s just not covered by mainstream media so you don’t hear about it. Check out MrAndyNgo on twitter/X, he covers all the violent crime by far left extremists and hate crimes by minorities that the media will not touch. Borders are still wide open, letting in all kinds of un-vetted, third world vermin.

So you’re very much anti-Trump, we get that. Does that make you a World Economic Forum supporter? It’s pretty much the opposite of “trumpism”. WEF leader Klaus Schwaub says he wants to eliminate all cars from private citizen ownership and by 2030 you would only be able to use an app to call self driving cars.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/s...72177593720883

Do you support this? Will you own nothing and be happy? This is just an example the kind of left-wing ideology that Trump is against.

On another note, after McCarthy ousted as House Speaker for being a uniparty shill, Trump possibly to become the next Speaker of the House and alot of Republicans are nominating him. Could it be? Would be very interesting to see Trump as House Speaker before he becomes President again, although he endorsed Jim Jordan for speaker, but says he would accept if nominated.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...r/71074434007/

Would be poetic justice, Trump not being able to make one of those bogus court dates cause he’s too busy as speaker overseeing a Biden impeachment.

*Mayhem* · 10-06-2023, 03:50 PM

“A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed," the Republican conference rules for the 118th Congress state.

But internally adopted rules can be changed, or ignored, and the Republican conference could do so if they choose. I suspect thus though they won’t, so no Trump as speaker.

Oh and there’s no way private car ownership disappears ever, let alone 2030.

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 10-06-2023, 05:00 PM

Thing is, all those bogus court cases are gonna be thrown out. They’re just a waste of time to distract Trump from campaigning, everyone knows it.

And they are trying to make private car ownership disappear, otherwise they wouldn’t be talking about it. These people are real stern and open about their plans nowadays, after seeing the fear, compliance, and gullibility of an entire population during the covid “pandemic”. The sudden push for electric vehicles, oil shortages, CA supposedly banning gas vehicles by 2035. Their goal is “15 minute smart cities”.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-06-2023, 05:06 PM

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Thing is, all those bogus court cases are gonna be thrown out.

The classified documents one is the only one with any chance of sticking. He's on tape waving around classified documents, showing them the documents and boasting about it, that he could have declassified them but he didn't, etc..

*Mayhem* · 10-07-2023, 03:37 AM

Yeah that one is a bit hard to refute. There’s going to be plenty of evidence, but for obvious reasons, you can’t make it public, because there are cases going on, so we shall have to see what spills out during the trials.

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 10-07-2023, 09:40 AM

But then they could just point to Biden, didn’t he have even more classified docs, stored in his Delaware garage or something? A clown show is still a clown show.

NY appeals court stops corrupt judge’s ruling to cancel Trump businesses

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...ource=andshare

Hillary Clinton wants to “formally deprogram” Trump supporters

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1710119355244011829

Wow, I did not see that coming. These elite globalists are getting more open and blunt about their intentions, they have an agenda, and Trump is in their way. What’s their next move?

~~Vegita-San~~ · 10-07-2023, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

But then they could just point to Biden, didn’t he have even more classified docs, stored in his Delaware garage or something? A clown show is still a clown show.

NY appeals court stops corrupt judge’s ruling to cancel Trump businesses

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...ource=andshare

Hillary Clinton wants to “formally deprogram” Trump supporters

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/...e&mode=profile

Wow, I did not see that coming. These elite globalists are getting more open and blunt about their intentions, they have an agenda, and Trump is in their way. What’s their next move?

ask and you shall sadly receive.

>>According to Newsweek - the FBI is now targeting citizens if they don't vote for the person the FBI doesn't like. They created a task force against Trump voters.

No way our country survives a FBI this corrupt.

Stay peaceful in all situations.

They want you to lash out.>>>

depreogram is what happens to cult members. wokeness IS a cult at this point.

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 10-07-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

ask and you shall sadly receive.

>>According to Newsweek - the FBI is now targeting citizens if they don't vote for the person the FBI doesn't like. They created a task force against Trump voters.

No way our country survives a FBI this corrupt.

Stay peaceful in all situations.

They want you to lash out.>>>

depreogram is what happens to cult members. wokeness IS a cult at this point.

Yeah heard about that a few days ago, I guess nobody was supposed to know about that until the story broke a few days ago. Heard it’s been going on since last December, but they try to hide it or deny it. Been getting a very 1930s Germany feeling from the left. And they label the other side “fascists” etc. That’s exactly what they did in 1930s Germany, accuse the other side of that which they are guilty.

~~Sumac~~ · 10-07-2023, 10:49 AM

I am surprised anyone still listens to Hilarity...this broad had proven without shadow of a doubt, she is a dumb arrogant idiot, incapable of humility and self-reflection. After losing to Trump (and how!!) she is basically a walking political corpse, yet, she yaps her mouth about "deprogramming"...when it was her side, which made hilarious ads where famous actors were trying to shame people into voting for her!

She is very very dumb person. And can't take loss, like any dumb person.

*Mayhem* · 10-07-2023, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

But then they could just point to Biden, didn’t he have even more classified docs, stored in his Delaware garage or something? A clown show is still a clown show.

NY appeals court stops corrupt judge’s ruling to cancel Trump businesses

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...ource=andshare

Two differences. Biden is still president, I’m not condoning what he did, but he’s still president and thus they have relevance to his current position, while Trump kept all of these boxes of documents after he left office. Second, when he found him and someone asked him to give them back, Biden did without question. Trump wanted to keep them, refused, and denied having some of them until the warranted search order happened. Two very different responses to the same situation. And the footage about him showing people he had them.

That link is pay/register walled, got anything you don’t have to sign up to and be tracked? I’m presuming it just says Trump has filed an appeal against the cancellation, so of course proceedings there have halted while it’s heard. Duh. Clickbait description. And then likely thrown out and it will happen regardless.

*Mayhem* · 10-22-2023, 03:41 AM

The first of many I’m suspecting as he can’t keep his mouth shut…

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/trum...gag-order.html

*Andrew NDB* · 10-22-2023, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Two differences. Biden is still president, I’m not condoning what he did, but he’s still president and thus they have relevance to his current position, while Trump kept all of these boxes of documents after he left office. Second, when he found him and someone asked him to give them back, Biden did without question. Trump wanted to keep them, refused, and denied having some of them until the warranted search order happened. Two very different responses to the same situation. And the footage about him showing people he had them.

That link is pay/register walled, got anything you don’t have to sign up to and be tracked? I’m presuming it just says Trump has filed an appeal against the cancellation, so of course proceedings there have halted while it’s heard. Duh. Clickbait description. And then likely thrown out and it will happen regardless.

There could be an argument that Biden actually holding the same or even more number of documents -- as president now, especially as the son stuff gets underway who was confirmed to be living in the house with these loose documents -- is an even more egregious crime. I suspect this will all get washed away as a result, when it comes to Trump. But the classified documents case is the only one he has to worry about.

*Mayhem* · 10-22-2023, 03:07 PM

Aside from the “how much money will he pay?” determine in NYC.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-24-2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

The first of many I’m suspecting as he can’t keep his mouth shut…

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/trum...gag-order.html

He’s such a fool

*Andrew NDB* · 10-24-2023, 12:47 PM

Oh wow, what a terrible post that was.

*Mayhem* · 10-24-2023, 01:34 PM

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Oh wow, what a terrible post that was.

Well, there’s a gagging order and he breached it. First fine is pretty pocket change, but it’ll escalate higher if he repeatedly breaches it further.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 10-24-2023, 02:02 PM

you do realize that this is their desperate attempt to get him on SOMETHING?

even if he went too jail, his popularity would shoot THROUGH the ROOF.

10-05-2023, 04:46 PM	#503
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,594	"Government to lockdown"? I know you guys love lockdowns, but this was (and could still be, after 40 days) a government "shutdown." But it's a joke. The government doesn't really shut down and everybody gets paid eventually. There were government "shutdowns" under both Obama and Trump and these weren't like devastating things. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-06-2023, 03:50 PM	#505
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,087	“A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed," the Republican conference rules for the 118th Congress state. But internally adopted rules can be changed, or ignored, and the Republican conference could do so if they choose. I suspect thus though they won’t, so no Trump as speaker. Oh and there’s no way private car ownership disappears ever, let alone 2030. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

10-07-2023, 03:37 AM	#508
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,087	Yeah that one is a bit hard to refute. There’s going to be plenty of evidence, but for obvious reasons, you can’t make it public, because there are cases going on, so we shall have to see what spills out during the trials. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

10-22-2023, 03:41 AM	#514
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,087	The first of many I’m suspecting as he can’t keep his mouth shut… https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/20/trum...gag-order.html __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

10-22-2023, 03:07 PM	#516
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,087	Aside from the “how much money will he pay?” determine in NYC. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

10-06-2023, 05:00 PM	#506
~~TurtleManiac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KALI Posts: 1,008	Thing is, all those bogus court cases are gonna be thrown out. They’re just a waste of time to distract Trump from campaigning, everyone knows it. And they are trying to make private car ownership disappear, otherwise they wouldn’t be talking about it. These people are real stern and open about their plans nowadays, after seeing the fear, compliance, and gullibility of an entire population during the covid “pandemic”. The sudden push for electric vehicles, oil shortages, CA supposedly banning gas vehicles by 2035. Their goal is “15 minute smart cities”.

10-07-2023, 09:40 AM	#509
~~TurtleManiac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KALI Posts: 1,008	But then they could just point to Biden, didn’t he have even more classified docs, stored in his Delaware garage or something? A clown show is still a clown show. NY appeals court stops corrupt judge’s ruling to cancel Trump businesses https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...ource=andshare Hillary Clinton wants to “formally deprogram” Trump supporters https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1710119355244011829 Wow, I did not see that coming. These elite globalists are getting more open and blunt about their intentions, they have an agenda, and Trump is in their way. What’s their next move?

10-07-2023, 10:49 AM	#512
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	I am surprised anyone still listens to Hilarity...this broad had proven without shadow of a doubt, she is a dumb arrogant idiot, incapable of humility and self-reflection. After losing to Trump (and how!!) she is basically a walking political corpse, yet, she yaps her mouth about "deprogramming"...when it was her side, which made hilarious ads where famous actors were trying to shame people into voting for her! She is very very dumb person. And can't take loss, like any dumb person.

10-24-2023, 12:47 PM	#518
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,594	Oh wow, what a terrible post that was. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-24-2023, 02:02 PM	#520
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	you do realize that this is their desperate attempt to get him on SOMETHING? even if he went too jail, his popularity would shoot THROUGH the ROOF.