Protestors Block Thanksgiving Parade

[Cowabung-Gal]

Which is more annoying: the uncle who talks politics at the table or the protestors who try to disrupt the parade to make a statement?

[Coola Yagami]

Leftists doing leftist things.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Leftists doing leftist things.

"How can we CRY and RAGE our way to change minds?!"

Basically. The right doesn't do this, which is why the left loves and continues to love the "idea" of 1/6, while not the reality of it even after it's been pretty well debunked en masse.

[Sumac]

Can we throw steam rollers on their heads?

[TurtleManiac]

Commies gonna commie. This is election interference 100%. We’ve seen this already during 2020 BLM riots, these are paid Soros operatives being bussed in all over the country. Now it’s the “Free Palestine” movement. Same klan, different outfits.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Can we throw steam rollers on their heads?

That’s basically what they’re asking for. Maybe one day they’ll get their wish, if they continue this groundbreaking technology of gluing themselves to the middle of the road.

[TurtleManiac]

Now the same mob has blocked the annual Christmas tree lighting in NYC

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/stat...12266056097959

There’s something very unsettling about seeing a pro Islamic mob of Palestine flags in America attacking a Christianity event. Is this the leftist “revenge” for Trump’s Muslim travel ban? Are we gonna be seeing more of these flash mobs showing up to disrupt traditional American celebrations with their pro Hamas flags?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

There’s something very unsettling about seeing a pro Islamic mob of Palestine flags in America attacking a Christianity event. Is this the leftist “revenge” for Trump’s Muslim travel ban? Are we gonna be seeing more of these flash mobs showing up to disrupt traditional American celebrations with their pro Hamas flags?

I think they are just brainless locusts attacking anything "traditional" in West, because, they hate West, due to childish overblown desire to rebel "against the system".

This gnats don't understand that at this point they don't fight "against the system", but against regular people who do not support them.

Its arguably worse, since it makes them extremely stupid and volatile and without any actual convictions, except for the hate.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I think they are just brainless locusts attacking anything "traditional" in West, because, they hate West, due to childish overblown desire to rebel "against the system".

It's literally as simple and that. It's the only explanation. Also a very foolish and idiotic idea in tandem with that that everyone in the world thinks exactly like you or I. Want the same things, have basically the same worldview, (or would, if not "oppressed") etc.. People with a religion and cultural experience that relish the thought of dying, existing and being driven to kill and wipe out another race... it's unfathomable to these people. It must just be, "They just need us to show them the light and then they'll be OK" or "it must be because they're poor, so let's give them some money and then they'll shape up."

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

There’s something very unsettling about seeing a pro Islamic mob of Palestine flags in America attacking a Christianity event.

Who says they are pro Islamic? I'd like to see Israel get the **** out of Palestine but that neither means I'm pro Islam or antisemitic. Religion and faith don't come into my opinion on the matter. Similar to Russia getting the **** out of Ukraine, but that's taking far more aggressive negotiation. Having grown up with the IRA still active, the only thing I can actively note is that I'm anti-terrorism, which I why I never condoned Hamas' initial actions.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Who says they are pro Islamic? I'd like to see Israel get the **** out of Palestine but that neither means I'm pro Islam or antisemitic. Religion and faith don't come into my opinion on the matter. Similar to Russia getting the **** out of Ukraine, but that's taking far more aggressive negotiation. Having grown up with the IRA still active, the only thing I can actively note is that I'm anti-terrorism, which I why I never condoned Hamas' initial actions.

Well, some of our members here take very strict black-or-white-stances on any controversial issue. It‘s certainly a way to look at the world.

[The Deadman]

These aggressive forms of protests didnt really start though until the whole Hamas thing kicked up, giving off the impression that people are siding with Hamas because "Israel is big bad". Also why are they attacking a parade that had nothing to do with them? If the roles were reversed and a bunch of Christians did this, people would be callin for their heads.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I'd like to see Israel get the **** out of Palestine but that neither means I'm pro Islam or antisemitic. Religion and faith don't come into my opinion on the matter.

Except terrorists from HAMAS set it up as part of their dogma, which is rooted in their religion. So, the conflict is very much religious. At least for one side.

And why Israel should "get the **** out of Palestine", when it houses terrorists who routinely attack their country?
Or you are thinking that HAMAS and other Palestinian terrorists will stop terror, if left alone?

Well, bad news to you: they literally won't stop until Israel is destroyed as a state. It is part of their ideology.

But I guess, it would be a good solution for a "bleeding heart liberal" as it would stop suffering of "brown people under oppression of evil Whites" (even though Semithic people are not White and they don't opress Arabs, but libs don't care).

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Well, some of our members here take very strict black-or-white-stances on any controversial issue. It‘s certainly a way to look at the world.

Ah, yes, another strawman.

Apparently, when people disagree with your "highness" they "have black and white view". Well, at least you didn't bring out "N"-word into discussion yet (even though it would incredibly ironic in this situation). I hope your brain won't crack under weight of mutually exclusive sentiments it need to process in order to come to such idea.

On that note: I really amused how libtards discuss this situation: they are so trying to avoid being antisemithic, but can't stop themselves from doing it, while constantly evoking certain "N" group on every step in any other situation.

Its just another confirmation, that modern libtards are basically old school racists and sexists: they are just using "party line" to attack their usual victims with impunity, since it is safe to do so.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Except terrorists from HAMAS set it up as part of their dogma, which is rooted in their religion. So, the conflict is very much religious. At least for one side.

For both sides given Israel is a deliberate Jewish state. As I said at the beginning, both sides are equally at fault, part of Hamas’ mantra is also because the Palestinians are treated badly and oppressed by Israel on their own land. It’s not much different to when the British Army had presence all around Ireland, on the borders, while the IRA was still active, and that’s the opinion of an ex colleague of mine who spent four years touring Ireland, manning borders, stopping terrorism, and had also been to both Palestine and Israel previously. Tit for tat, circle of violence that seemingly will never be broken. Hamas wants to get rid of Israel, Israel warns to get rid of all non Jewish people from the entire area and have the whole place to itself.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions. It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts.

Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that"

From Article 31 of the Hamas Charter. I encourage everyone to read the full document.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Who says they are pro Islamic? I'd like to see Israel get the **** out of Palestine but that neither means I'm pro Islam or antisemitic. Religion and faith don't come into my opinion on the matter. Similar to Russia getting the **** out of Ukraine, but that's taking far more aggressive negotiation. Having grown up with the IRA still active, the only thing I can actively note is that I'm anti-terrorism, which I why I never condoned Hamas' initial actions.

Do you condemn the October 7th Hamas terrorist attacks? Killing random innocent people at a music festival should be a pretty big red flag. Who would side with the terrorists? Only supporters of the stone age death cult ideology. That’s why pro Hamas are considered pro Islam.

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Well, some of our members here take very strict black-or-white-stances on any controversial issue. It‘s certainly a way to look at the world.

The only black-or-white stance is that with Trump we had prosperity and peace, with Biden we have poverty and war. It’s really that simple.

Originally Posted by The Deadman

These aggressive forms of protests didnt really start though until the whole Hamas thing kicked up, giving off the impression that people are siding with Hamas because "Israel is big bad". Also why are they attacking a parade that had nothing to do with them? If the roles were reversed and a bunch of Christians did this, people would be callin for their heads.

Exactly, because the left is trying so hard to not be labeled “Islamaphobic” right now. And the left has already openly showed their stance on Christianity.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Except terrorists from HAMAS set it up as part of their dogma, which is rooted in their religion. So, the conflict is very much religious. At least for one side.

And why Israel should "get the **** out of Palestine", when it houses terrorists who routinely attack their country?
Or you are thinking that HAMAS and other Palestinian terrorists will stop terror, if left alone?

Well, bad news to you: they literally won't stop until Israel is destroyed as a state. It is part of their ideology.

But I guess, it would be a good solution for a "bleeding heart liberal" as it would stop suffering of "brown people under oppression of evil Whites" (even though Semithic people are not White and they don't opress Arabs, but libs don't care).


Ah, yes, another strawman.

Apparently, when people disagree with your "highness" they "have black and white view". Well, at least you didn't bring out "N"-word into discussion yet (even though it would incredibly ironic in this situation). I hope your brain won't crack under weight of mutually exclusive sentiments it need to process in order to come to such idea.

On that note: I really amused how libtards discuss this situation: they are so trying to avoid being antisemithic, but can't stop themselves from doing it, while constantly evoking certain "N" group on every step in any other situation.

Its just another confirmation, that modern libtards are basically old school racists and sexists: they are just using "party line" to attack their usual victims with impunity, since it is safe to do so.

The left is currently afraid of being labeled “Islamaphobic”. They need all leftists to be in lockstep. That’s why they’re starting to turn on Biden, cause he supposedly is pro Israel. But I think he still hasn’t declared Hamas to be a terrorist organization. That would be “wrongthink”. Alot of leftist walking on thin ice right now, they don’t want to be labeled “far right” for openly supporting Israel. And they can’t say anything bad about Hamas either, cause of “biggotry” concerns.

Originally Posted by Mayhem

For both sides given Israel is a deliberate Jewish state. As I said at the beginning, both sides are equally at fault, part of Hamas’ mantra is also because the Palestinians are treated badly and oppressed by Israel on their own land. It’s not much different to when the British Army had presence all around Ireland, on the borders, while the IRA was still active, and that’s the opinion of an ex colleague of mine who spent four years touring Ireland, manning borders, stopping terrorism, and had also been to both Palestine and Israel previously. Tit for tat, circle of violence that seemingly will never be broken. Hamas wants to get rid of Israel, Israel warns to get rid of all non Jewish people from the entire area and have the whole place to itself.

Why is the left so afraid of calling it what it is: Hamas is a terrorist group. Or they truly don’t see it that way? It usually seems like they’re reading from a script, leftwing ideology is so confusing, always contradicting themselves. Islam got militants invading many countries as “refugees”. I think the left is just worried about being labeled “far right extremists” which is why they cannot speak out against Hamas.

Everyone heard about the illegal Algerian migrant in Ireland stabbing children couple weeks ago, and the riots that broke out that night by the Irish, all the news outlets condemn them as “far right” extremists, but when BLM does it is “peaceful protest”. Conor McGregor is now under investigation for “hate speech” for condemning the migrant stabbing children. The left truly is the party of crime. This Algerian migrant was in Ireland for 20 years before committing this terror act on children, imagine that, 20 years and still does not assimilate. Ticking time bomb.

Check this out, London cancels Chanukah celebrations because of tensions over anti Israel protests

https://gellerreport.com/2023/12/lon...?lctg=95874547

Submitting to Islamic intimidation and threats of violence. Sharia Law is slowly becoming a leftwing ideoleogy. All because liberals don’t want to offend their precious “freedom fighters”.

[Bahamut810]

I mean...I don't know every single detail of everything but I do know:

1. Israel was a conquered land that was returned to the Jews
2. They offered to give land to who became the Palestinians multiple times and were rejected.
3. They finally gave up some land, and the newly created people elected Hamas and never had another election.
4. Hamas since its inception has been out to commit genocide against Jews, and it was in their charter until they did some PR work when they found out people frowned on that.
5. Hamas hides among civilians while doing terror attacks.
6. Hamas started it again.

So yeah, Israel should be able to defend itself, especially . It really seems like Muslims from that part of the world should just stop trying to kill people.

[Andrew NDB]

The left, largely the leftist media, are desperately trying to "two sides" this. There is no "two sides" in this, same as there is no "two state solution" when there is nobody on the other end interested in negotiating or even in peace (well, peace beyond just a respite between now and the next 10/7, which even now they are openly broadcasting that next time will be much worse). Unless you can rationalize burning and beheading babies, raping women until they bleed and then murdering them, dragging children and holocaust survivors out of their beds as hostages
as some kind of appropriate response to, well, anything. But you can't. And trying to do so shows your hand, and it isn't good.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Check this out, London cancels Chanukah celebrations because of tensions over anti Israel protests

https://gellerreport.com/2023/12/lon...?lctg=95874547

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions. It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts.

Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that"

From Article 31 of the Hamas Charter. I encourage everyone to read the full document.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

There can be no debate about whether Hamas are terrorists or not. Your quote just proves how they try to explain their wish for domination.

I have always supported a two-party solution but right now? It's not the appropriate moment to talk about it. A free Palestine shouldn't be created on the foundation of a terrorist attack.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

For both sides given Israel is a deliberate Jewish state.

You are missing one crucial detail: Judaism and state of Israel do not exist to solely exterminate Palestinians. It is not a corner stone of their ideology.

The same can not be said about Palestine, and most Israeli neighbors, who attempted to destroy Israel more than once.

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Israel warns to get rid of all non Jewish people from the entire area and have the whole place to itself.

Watch more BBC, I am sure they'll tell "right version of history".

Also, tell me how you know **** all about Israel, when you know **** all about Israel.

Do you know that there are a lot of Arabs living in Israel? And they have equal rights with Jewish people? Or you though Israel is a monoethnic, monoreligious state?
Guess, some people can sit under rock for decades...

Originally Posted by Mayhem

As I said at the beginning, both sides are equally at fault, part of Hamas’ mantra is also because the Palestinians are treated badly and oppressed by Israel on their own land.

Do you know that Israel attempted to broker peace with Palestine multiple times and all of those attempts have been thwarted by Palestine?
Hm, I wonder, why after all those failed attempts and after enormous terrorist attack Israel decided to take a hardline stance against batshit insane terrorist state?

Originally Posted by Mayhem

It’s not much different to when the British Army had presence all around Ireland, on the borders, while the IRA was still active, and that’s the opinion of an ex colleague of mine who spent four years touring Ireland, manning borders, stopping terrorism, and had also been to both Palestine and Israel previously.

You are like SJW Americans, who are trying to apply US values and history at foreign country.

Conflicts between Ireland and England and conflict between Israel and Palestine has absolutely nothing in common.

Ireland was colonized by England after hundreds years of wars.

Palestinian lands were GIVEN to Jews by Britain, who owned those lands after destruction of Ottoman Empire (Turkey, if you didn't know).
Guess, what had happened on the next day after British troops left the region and Israel proclaimed itself as a state? It was attacked by five different Arabian countries!
But, yeah, poor Palestinians are somehow victims in all of this!!

Can bleeding heart people, like you, finally learn some ****ing history!?

It is not a situation of metropolia and a colony.
For one, Israel doesn't try to colonize Palestine, even though they had means and resources to do this and save a lot of their people. Yet, their had shown remarkable (admirable? stupid?) restraint when dealing with a terrorist state, which is hellbent on a total genocide of people who live in Israel (whether they are Jews or not), going as far as trying to make peace with them!!

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

From Article 31 of the Hamas Charter. I encourage everyone to read the full document.

And Nazis was the most peaceful and just ideology on Earth.
According to Nazis.

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Conor McGregor is now under investigation for “hate speech” for condemning the migrant stabbing children. The left truly is the party of crime. This Algerian migrant was in Ireland for 20 years before committing this terror act on children, imagine that, 20 years and still does not assimilate. Ticking time bomb.

Irish and UK laws, when it comes to "hate speech" are ridiculous crap, written by a frenzied leftard.

I am not fan of McGregor, but "investigating" him for calling out psychopath who stabbed kids, is just retarded. It shows that government cares more about rights of murderer, if he just happened to be right color of skin, than victims, if they are White. At this point civil unrest against psychotic government and retard of a prime minister is very much justified.

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Check this out, London cancels Chanukah celebrations because of tensions over anti Israel protests

https://gellerreport.com/2023/12/lon...?lctg=95874547

Submitting to Islamic intimidation and threats of violence. Sharia Law is slowly becoming a leftwing ideoleogy. All because liberals don’t want to offend their precious “freedom fighters”.

Disgusting.
In their hatred of West, leftwing garbage will sign their own destruction.
Which those ****wads more than deserved.

Originally Posted by Barkworm

I have always supported a two-party solution but right now? It's not the appropriate moment to talk about it. A free Palestine shouldn't be created on the foundation of a terrorist attack.

You'd make a fine modern politician.
And that is not a compliment.