Battle Angel Alita

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

I remember a friend of mine seeing it and when I asked her if she'd liked it, she just said "I think so but when I left, it was like a black hole in my head." That's 100 % my experience with Avatar.

Same here. What should have been Star Wars-type EVENT, ended up being mediocre sci-fi. Beautiful, but shallow.

Its not even "so bad its good", its just...there. Which incredibly puzzles me, since I barely can figure, how can one create a movie, which doesn't leave any emotions or long lasting impressions. Even after watching bad movies I can remember at least some moments, in case of Avatar, all I remember...blue catpeople and that's about it.

It is the biggest miracle in my opinion.

[Andrew NDB]

Alita 2 re-confirmed again:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/alita-2...1-sequel-talk/

"At least one more." And apparently it'll get up and going right after this next Avatar movie. And the thought from a few years back that it might be a Disney+ series seem not to have gone anywhere -- it'll be a movie.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Alita 2 re-confirmed again:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/alita-2...1-sequel-talk/

"At least one more." And apparently it'll get up and going right after this next Avatar movie. And the thought from a few years back that it might be a Disney+ series seem not to have gone anywhere -- it'll be a movie.

Right I guess now that this supposedly happening again, I guess it's relevant again to ask how they're going to handle the fact that they took elements from the OVA, including something that contradicts the very fundamental twist that is the basis for a lot of plot development going forward? Because unlike the OVA which was made before said twist happened in the manga, the movie really had no business just copying that mistake.

In case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll explain it in spoiler tags but be warned, it is a very important twist:

Spoiler:

Zalemites don't have brains, when they get their full citizenship their brains are surgically removed and replaced with computers that simulate their brains. In the OVA and movie, Chiren who is a Zalemite herself is dissected for organ harvest and her brain, which she shouldn't have, is shown.

[drgon78]

I will believe it when I see a(real) trailer.

[sdp]

I saw the OVAs and the movie like a year ago, I enjoyed them. I'd watch a sequel. Clearly I'd love it more if they'd announced more OVAs to finish the story, odd it's never been remade or finished.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Right I guess now that this supposedly happening again, I guess it's relevant again to ask how they're going to handle the fact that they took elements from the OVA, including something that contradicts the very fundamental twist that is the basis for a lot of plot development going forward? Because unlike the OVA which was made before said twist happened in the manga, the movie really had no business just copying that mistake.

In case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll explain it in spoiler tags but be warned, it is a very important twist:

Spoiler:

Zalemites don't have brains, when they get their full citizenship their brains are surgically removed and replaced with computers that simulate their brains. In the OVA and movie, Chiren who is a Zalemite herself is dissected for organ harvest and her brain, which she shouldn't have, is shown.

Hm... I don't think that's really that big of a deal. Maybe Cameron and/or Rodriguez just didn't like that twist and what it meant for the Zalemites.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Hm... I don't think that's really that big of a deal. Maybe Cameron and/or Rodriguez just didn't like that twist and what it meant for the Zalemites.

Spoiler:

The problem is that it's a very important plot twist and much of the story hinges on it after Alita gets to Zalem. There are two particular things that can't make sense if that twist is removed.

Spoiler:

The reason Nova is so dangerous is because unlike most Zalemites, who go insane if they learn the truth, he revels in it because it allows him to constantly clone himself and experiment with improving himself in numerous ways. He's essentially immortal and can do weird crap like put his brain-computer in his stomach to prevent people from killing him with blows to the head.

Spoiler:

This thing also also allowed for several copies of Alita herself to be made. In the sequel manga Last Order it's revealed that while she was under, her brain was removed and replaced with one of those computers, meaning that Alita from that point onward is a pure Android, while the brain gets a human body at the end.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

Yeah, that all sounds a little bit out there. Good for a manga, not so great for a movie trying to appeal to mass audiences. "Brain chips" and "brain clones" and "stomach brain chips"... I could easily see Cameron/Rodriguez boiling all of that way down into something simpler.

[drgon78]

They could give us the OVA on blu ray....something they should have done when the movie came out.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by drgon78

They could give us the OVA on blu ray....something they should have done when the movie came out.

If they didn't care about that in 2019 they care about it 300% less now.