She Hulk Disney +

[Andrew NDB]

Again, I actually mostly dug She-Hulk for the most part. I would've just preferred they dial the "man hate" factor way back.

Like, the little things (beyond the larger things like how all the males on the show are horrible and caricatures). Like in her comic origin, Bruce Banner heroically saving her by giving her a blood transfusion. Nope, can't have that in 2023! Now his blood just sort of accidentally spills onto her wound.

[Sumac]

Can't make a man to be a savior of a WOMAN in the current year.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Sumac

First, I talked about characters.
Second, Age of Ultron for one.

That was the one I gave you for free but on better consideration I'm not sure it counts. As I said everyone on the creative end of that movie was open that they were not adapting Age of Ultron (which is for the best as few people liked that story) they just thought it made a cool name.

I'll give you an example of a character that was changed a lot in movie form: Taskmaster...but in the context of this conversation it seems what we're supposed to be mad at are changes to make things 'woke'. While TS was certainly very different I think even the people most obsessed with seeing woke everywhere would struggle to say MCU version was in any way woke.

Got any other examples?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Galactus

That was the one I gave you for free but on better consideration I'm not sure it counts.

Here we go with gaslighting again...

Originally Posted by Galactus

I'll give you an example of a character that was changed a lot in movie form: Taskmaster...but in the context of this conversation it seems what we're supposed to be mad at are changes to make things 'woke'.

Can you make an argument without asspull, goalpostmoving or gaslighting?
What with the lefties and necessity to constantly weasel their way through the conversation?
Its like a I am talking with sentient equivalent of slime.

Also, if it was not obvious from a context, I was talking about characters overall, whether "woke" or not.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Here we go with gaslighting again...

I'm starting to think you don't know what gaslighting means.

can you make an argument without asspull, goalpostmoving or gaslighting?
What with the lefties and necessity to constantly weasel their way through the conversation?
Its like a I am talking with sentient equivalent of slime.

Also, if it was not obvious from a context, I was talking about characters overall, whether "woke" or not.

How did I move the goal posts? I gave you an example of a character that was changed so much it could be reasonably be described that their MCU adaption as being "in-name only" and asked you to come up with more.

There's a few others we could name but this whole thread seemed to be revolve around deriding everything as woke if it's not to prove whether something is genuinely woke or not then why are we trying to come up with examples of this phenomenon at all? Particularly as the She-Hulk tv series was a fairly faithful adaption of the character.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I'm starting to think you don't know what gaslighting means.

I am starting to think, that I am talking to a robot, that runs outdated SJW.exe.

Originally Posted by Galactus

How did I move the goal posts?

Every time when I provided you an example, you immediately found a reason to say "but its different".

You either think, that receiving evidence of your own words is somehow bad look on you. Or you just incapable of being "wrong", even though there is nothing bad about it here.

Originally Posted by Galactus

There's a few others we could name but this whole thread seemed to be revolve around deriding everything as woke if it's not to prove whether something is genuinely woke or not then why are we trying to come up with examples of this phenomenon at all? Particularly as the She-Hulk tv series was a fairly faithful adaption of the character.

I don't care about this thread, I care about this conversation.
And it was not only about being "woke".

And, AFAIK, a lot of people have said that She-Hulk has little to do with her runs in comic books. Sorta like Bayformers have little to do with a good Transformers works, even though they got all the ingredients.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Every time when I provided you an example, you immediately found a reason to say "but its different".

You haven't provided me with any examples.

I don't care about this thread, I care about this conversation.
And it was not only about being "woke".

So perhaps you could give me some examples of the MCU differing from it's source material so egregiously that it can be described as being an adaption in-name only. There's clearly some but not that many and almost every time it seems it's to help make something fit better in the continuity they have established rather than some ulterior you seem to infer.

And, AFAIK, a lot of people have said that She-Hulk has little to do with her runs in comic books. Sorta like Bayformers have little to do with a good Transformers works, even though they got all the ingredients.

Well...they are wrong. Even the writer of one the character's most celebrated runs has praised it.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Galactus

You haven't provided me with any examples.

Is that amnesia? Or radio signal jamming?
Anyway, I provided you with an example, Age of Ultron, which somehow was not good enough, because, reasons.

Originally Posted by Galactus

So perhaps you could give me some examples of the MCU differing from it's source material so egregiously that it can be described as being an adaption in-name only. There's clearly some but not that many and almost every time it seems it's to help make something fit better in the continuity they have established rather than some ulterior you seem to infer.

Multiverse of Madness.
Also, just to remind you, I was talking largely about characters, not stories.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well...they are wrong. Even the writer of one the character's most celebrated runs has praised it.

And James Cameron praised Terminator Dark Fate. And?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well...they are wrong. Even the writer of one the character's most celebrated runs has praised it.

Slott praises everything he had a hand in influencing. He's also still employed by Marvel

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Slott praises everything he had a hand in influencing. He's also still employed by Marvel

Dan Slott's biggest fan is Dan Slott. Dan Slott cheerleads Dan Slott so much that Dan thinks that Dan Slott cannot do any wrong at all. It's amazing that he grew enough to even be a paid writer when surrounded 100% by a team like that.

Dan Slott probably also loved Dan's Tony Stark Iron Man run. And so when Dan loves Dan's work, it doesn't matter when an entire fandom hated it.

[ToTheNines]

This is crazy: https://x.com/danfriedman81/status/2...540256119?s=46

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

This is crazy: https://x.com/danfriedman81/status/2...540256119?s=46

During the production of that episode, “Rick and Morty” showrunner Dan Harmon cast Susan Sarandon as the family’s therapist, a character Gao had named Dr. Wong in the script. Gao crashed out over the casting of a white actor for this part. In 2018 this was a major transgression and as an act of contrition, Harmon did a podcast with Gao called “Whiting Wongs,” which is 40 hours of him apologizing and learning about racism.

Shesus, what a cuck. Maybe Roiland was beefing with Harmon wasn't about Roiland blowing off commitments and maybe it was about Harmon being an insufferable assclown to be around.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

This is crazy: https://x.com/danfriedman81/status/2...540256119?s=46

To think, we have "Pickle Rick" to blame!

And a studio standoff over a meta-hat... what a time to be alive!