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[CyberCubed]

There hasn't been a good Aliens movie since Aliens in 1986. After the 4 meh to bad movies before this I don't think anyone is expecting much.

[IMJ]

That's why Prometheus was terrific. It had a an amazing story, enough fibers to become the franchise itself, and the VFX work were photo real in every capacity. But now we will do more dark and smoke scares with Xenomorphs.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

That's why Prometheus was terrific. It had a an amazing story

There was nothing wrong with the story (beyond it almost being an almost copy-paste remake of AVP! finding travel coordinates from temples, traveling to a temple with traps in it, etc.) but it's a pity it was full of truly stupid-headed characters. Which they then doubled down on with Covenant. Which killed Ridley Scott's prequel quadrilogy dead in its tracks.

[IMJ]

Yeah, I didn't hate Covenant but.....I don't go back and watch it. At all.

[Barkworm]

The first Alien film is probably one of my favourite films ever. Apart from that one bad second where you see the Xenomorph for the first time and it looks like a guy in a rubber suit going „BOO!“, it‘s flawless. The second one has this pulpy 80s-action-B-movie feel to it in the beginning but the final act is fantastic. I also enjoyed the third one, mainly because I used to be a fan of David Fincher.

But everything after that was people trying to milk a franchise in which everything had been said. Alien 4 was dumb, Prometheus looked great but was incredibly stupid. With this one I‘m not even going to watch a trailer.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

The first Alien film is probably one of my favourite films ever. Apart from that one bad second where you see the Xenomorph for the first time and it looks like a guy in a rubber suit going „BOO!“, it‘s flawless. The second one has this pulpy 80s-action-B-movie feel to it in the beginning but the final act is fantastic. I also enjoyed the third one, mainly because I used to be a fan of David Fincher.

But everything after that was people trying to milk a franchise in which everything had been said. Alien 4 was dumb, Prometheus looked great but was incredibly stupid. With this one I‘m not even going to watch a trailer.

Yeah looking back at it there is a lot of Alien content out there on film and yet it's only been "great" a couple of times..... It's the same with Predator too. The first one, then the one with Adrian Brody were terrific. I thought Prey was brilliant and honestly "Predator throughout history" is probably the best way to go with that franchise....

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

It's the same with Predator too. The first one, then the one with Adrian Brody were terrific.

Predators was great until the end of it. They totally screwed up at the end and it was a huge missed opportunity.

I thought Prey was brilliant and honestly "Predator throughout history" is probably the best way to go with that franchise....

I think there's a lot of ways to go with Predator they haven't gone. A Machiko Noguchi-type story where a human earns their way into a Predator hunting party, going world to world would be neat. A National Geographic-style almost documentary of "day in the life" or "week in the life" of a Predator growing into manhood on the Predator homeworld would be neat. A focused, Saving Private Ryan, storming Normandy Beach-style AVP movie where a pack of Predators take on a full-on Alien hive, possibly even on the Alien homeworld would be neat. Predators and Engineers? Maybe there's something there. The most boring thing to me is just a rinse and repeat, "A Predator comes, there is a cat and mouse until an unlikely hero gets the upper hand and outsmarts/outwits the Predator." Enough time had passed that we hadn't seen that formula before with Prey, but to do it again would be dumb.

[IMJ]

To be honest they need to do a direct sequel to Arnold's movie - but they do something that develops the story. Dutch gets involved again at the governments request because they acknowledge these things exist and they have to do something to stop the Predator race from coming to Earth en masse because they started looking down on us rather than just hunting, or something like that. Maybe even put Adrian Brody in it somehow.

Something that raises the stakes and takes the story up a level.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

To be honest they need to do a direct sequel to Arnold's movie - but they do something that develops the story. Dutch gets involved again at the governments request because they acknowledge these things exist and they have to do something to stop the Predator race from coming to Earth en masse because they started looking down on us rather than just hunting, or something like that. Maybe even put Adrian Brody in it somehow.

Something that raises the stakes and takes the story up a level.

I'd be all about that! Just call it "DUTCH," but in the Predator font. They'd better do it quick while Arnold is still able to stand.

[Andrew NDB]

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/xenomor...alien-tv-spot/

So any thoughts to how this takes place between Alien and Aliens? We know Weyland-Yutani hadn't found that derelict vessel on LV-426 all the way up to Aliens... so how are there Aliens in this? They had to have found that drone Ripley ejected from the Nostromo, floating in space? Right? What else can it be? And it looks like we have Drones being "born" out of sacs from the wall, sort of like the Drone was facilitating in the walls in the deleted scene in Alien.

And then this Romulus station obviously gets thoroughly destroyed by the end of the movie. Otherwise why would Weyland-Yutani care so much about sending Ripley back to LV-426 or even Ripley herself in Alien 3 and so on?

[neatoman]

I've seen the movie.

Spoiler:

• Prometheus is definitely part of canon as far as this movie is concerned and presumably Covenant too.
• No, it does not directly continue the plot from either, the stuff about David experimenting on people is not continued upon.
• The main thing taken from those movies is that Weyland-Yutani's interest in the Aliens is that they want to extract the black goo from them.
• The way the Aliens enter the plot of this is that they obtained the carcass of the one from the original film, turns out Ripley didn't really destroy it, she just stranded it in space.
• The disaster has already happened and the main characters just sort of reignite it because they wanted to salvage some cryo-pods.
• They want to take the cryo-pods illegally so they can escape the indentured servitude Weyland-Yutani put them under and go to a system colonised by someone else, confirming W-Y is not almighty and other factions do exist.
• The villain of the movie is an android the same model as Ash and wants to make sure the black goo can be researched further.
• The purpose of the goo is to modify humans so they can live in space without the slight things that can't be fixed with terraforming getting in the way.
• Facehuggers can't see apparently, they go by sound and heat, so if the room matches body temperature perfectly and you don't make a sound you're invisible to them.
• A pregnant woman takes the goo to heal an injury and the baby turns into the final boss of the movie, an Alien with a human face and skin.
• The surviving woman puts herself into stasis along with her android companion, but the android was previously reprogrammed by the Ash model and that may cause problems in future movies.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

That's actually a lot more impressive than I figured. Delving deeper into the black goo is definitely a good choice as opposed to just more "Boo!" stuff we've already seen. Plus it makes Prometheus "matter" more in the bigger picture.

But... the station does get destroyed, right? It can't exist or the Company's behavior in Aliens and Alien 3 wouldn't make a ton of sense.

Also, the actual ending sounds a lot like the ending of Covenant, with the main lady in the crypod going to sleep and David revealing that he's David to her. Maybe a Romulus sequel could tie into the end of Covenant and link up the people at the end of Romulus with the world that David has settled at.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

That's actually a lot more impressive than I figured. Delving deeper into the black goo is definitely a good choice as opposed to just more "Boo!" stuff we've already seen. Plus it makes Prometheus "matter" more in the bigger picture.

But... the station does get destroyed, right? It can't exist or the Company's behavior in Aliens and Alien 3 wouldn't make a ton of sense.

Spoiler:

Yes, it crashes into the planet's rings and is essentially sand blasted into oblivion.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

Though wait... they somehow distill the remains of the Alien drone from Alien into the black goo (#1, how?), but how do they use that to create another Alien drone?

Unless the idea is that it is easy to create Aliens as we know them from the black goo. Which would simultaneously cement that David wasn't the first one to do so.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

Though wait... they somehow distill the remains of the Alien drone from Alien into the black goo (#1, how?), but how do they use that to create another Alien drone?

Spoiler:

They don't really explain how they extracted the goo. As for the second question, I don't really know that either. They are however keeping facehuggers on ice, so cloning maybe? I also think the movie is operating on the logic from the alternate cut of Alien 1, where the queen isn't really necessary and the Aliens can just sort of "craft" the eggs.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

Do they SAY the Alien Drone from Alien that was recovered was still alive, or just a husk? If it was still alive then maybe the goo didn't create anything and yeah, the Drone just finished what it was starting in the Alien deleted scene.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

Do they SAY the Alien Drone from Alien that was recovered was still alive, or just a husk? If it was still alive then maybe the goo didn't create anything and yeah, the Drone just finished what it was starting in the Alien deleted scene.

Spoiler:

This is where I'm not quite sure. I think the Ash android says something along the lines of how it's the perfect life-form and could not be destroyed so easily, but I don't think they 100% confirm that thing was still actually alive and there are way too many Aliens running around to determine if any of them is that one. When they obtained it, it was encased in a meteor like structure and then opened up, it looked pretty damn static to me.

My gut says that it's dead when they find it but the body is still basically intact. But it could just as easily have been alive, I need to rewatch it to tell for sure.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Spoiler:

it was encased in a meteor like structure

Spoiler:

How the hell would that have happened? It got blown off the back of the Narcissus and away from it by the thrusters. Pretty low odds it'd somehow end up in a... meteor? Or anything like that?

Though that also begs a question. If WY was able to extrapolate the trajectory of the Alien drone being pushed away infinitely from the back of the Narcissus... why were they not able to extrapolate the forward course of the Narcissus?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

How the hell would that have happened? It got blown off the back of the Narcissus and away from it by the thrusters. Pretty low odds it'd somehow end up in a... meteor? Or anything like that?

Though that also begs a question. If WT was able to extrapolate the trajectory of the Alien drone being pushed away infinitely from the back of the Narcissus... why were they not able to extrapolate the forward course of the Narcissus?

Spoiler:

It's not really explained either, though we do get a new stage in the life cycle in this movie, the chestburster is shown to create a cocoon in order to mature into an adult. Maybe it's related to that?