Sony's Kraven the Hunter

[Andrew NDB]

lol....

https://www.darkhorizons.com/kraven-...film-a-chance/

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

New trailer has dropped

ATJ is in great shape, but his frame isn’t large enough to play Kraven.

And I know this has already been said, but who is asking for these movies?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

And I know this has already been said, but who is asking for these movies?

An excellent question.

[ZariusTwo]

The first eight minutes

[Andrew NDB]

The SPUMC is over before Kraven is even out.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-ha...niverse-plans/

[Autbot_Benz]

Another stinker for Sony who could have seen that coming

[Andrew NDB]

Since it's unlikely Sony will ONLY be interested in Spider-Man sequels through Marvel Studios, if they're discontinuing the "SPUMC" then that can probably only mean:

A) Sony will finally sell off the Spider-Man rights back to Marvel/Disney, since they have to admit at this point they only seem to be able to actively LOSE money by themselves on stuff they do themselves there.

B) Sony will attempt to renegotiate their deal with Marvel/Disney so as to allow themselves to make solo "off-base" Spider-Man movies, stuff like Spider-Man 2099, Andrew Garfield stuff, etc..

C) Sony will break off from the deal with Marvel/Disney (or just not renew whatever it is now), choosing then to strictly do solo Spider-Man movies on their own.

[IMJ]

I think it was apparent to anyone who thinks that this entire endeavor by Sony was never needed and not wanted by the fanbase. It was a stretch to maintain their hold on the I.P.'s and nobody wants "super villain movies".

This would have been a stretch for SONY under any paradigm, but they should've have done something like tried to build a street-level hero-fest if they had to do anything. A friggin' Prowler movie followed by a Silver Sable movie would've made more sense than what they did.... and even those probably wouldn't have stirred much interest.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Since it's unlikely Sony will ONLY be interested in Spider-Man sequels through Marvel Studios, if they're discontinuing the "SPUMC" then that can probably only mean:

A) Sony will finally sell off the Spider-Man rights back to Marvel/Disney, since they have to admit at this point they only seem to be able to actively LOSE money by themselves on stuff they do themselves there.

B) Sony will attempt to renegotiate their deal with Marvel/Disney so as to allow themselves to make solo "off-base" Spider-Man movies, stuff like Spider-Man 2099, Andrew Garfield stuff, etc..

C) Sony will break off from the deal with Marvel/Disney (or just not renew whatever it is now), choosing then to strictly do solo Spider-Man movies on their own.

A would be the smart move. B would be the best case scenario for fans. C is what I think Sony is most likely to try.

[IMJ]

If the execs at Sony studios had any brains they would have greenlit a 3rd Garfield Spider-Man movie immediately after the first week of No Way Home's box office...

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The SPUMC is over before Kraven is even out.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-ha...niverse-plans/

They should have killed it after (or before) they let Morbius loose onto the public.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

If the execs at Sony studios had any brains they would have greenlit a 3rd Garfield Spider-Man movie immediately after the first week of No Way Home's box office...

Again, I don't think they were legally able to even if they wanted to, given whatever the specifics are of that deal with Marvel/Disney to do solo Spider-Man movies there. Minimum, they'd be pumping out Miles Morales movies throughout all of this. Because why wouldn't they?

[Autbot_Benz]

Kraven is bombing. this is the 3rd box office bomb Morbius Madame Web and now Kraven.

good job guys

[Coola Yagami]

To be expected. Most of these Sony characters were never good enough to get their own book, let alone a movie. Venom at least had several comic book series with varying levels of success. But Kraven??? Has he ever even have his own comic series?

I mean what's next? Boomerang? The White Rabbit? Still Man?

[IMJ]

SONY saw this coming - I think it was day one of the release they announced they won't focus on this Universe-Building Sinister Six BS anymore.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

SONY saw this coming - I think it was day one of the release they announced they won't focus on this Universe-Building Sinister Six BS anymore.

I thought for sure they were going to use No Way Home to take THAT Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Electro, Sandman, Lizard and spin them off into the Sinister Six. That might have been... I dunno, at least something? With that cast.

[Coola Yagami]

It was right there. 5 villains plus the return of Keaton's Vulture and we would have had the Sinister Six.

[Andrew NDB]

So it might be this:

https://comicbookmovie.com/spider_ma...tudios-a215093

[neatoman]

I've seen it now and, yeah, it's pretty bad. If you're wondering how it fares in comparison to Sony's other not-Spider-Man experiments, it's better than Morbius and Madame Web which doesn't really mean much considering how awful Madame Web is. It's also worse than the Venom movies in terms of pure entertainment value and as bizarre as it may seem, I think the first Venom movie might technically be superior in a technical sense too.

The sad part is that there are hints of a much better movie buried in all this slop. Had they leaned into the gangster element more, had the drama with the family more developed, cut the pseudo-conservationist crap, explained the powers better, gotten better actors, cut it down a bit and not pretended that Kraven was in anyway a good guy, we might have had halfway decent movie. With even more reworking than that, this might have been OK gangster movie with superpowers. But as is, it's just a boring, sloppy mess with mostly bad actors, an incostent story and fairly hypocritical message.

And sad how sad is it when Russell Crowe is the best part of your movie?