Four states could secede from US, join Canada

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ea1bbf2a&ei=15

Good. Do it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Join the authoritarian, assisted-s**cide-promoting country that is Canada?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Awesome, make the USA more red.

[ToTheNines]

This will never happen lol. And if it did, it doesn’t make any sense to strand Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Maine like that.

[ResidentEvil7]

These are just 4 liberal crybaby states that can't deal with Trump for 4 years. How pathetic!

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

These are just 4 liberal crybaby states that can't deal with Trump for 4 years. How pathetic!

Well the funny part is, for NY that’s not even true lol. Obviously you got NYC, but other than Albany, Ithaca, Syracuse and a couple other places, the whole state loves Trump.

If you drive through upstate long enough, you will see a LOT of yard signs supporting a movement for the state to split up so they can be separate from NYC and its neighboring counties.

[Vegita-San]

previously, I would have thought California should have been it's own country..but there was alot of red this time.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

These are just 4 liberal crybaby states that can't deal with Trump for 4 years. How pathetic!

The first four were already exhausting enough, at least for anyone who doesn't have a deeply irrational, insatiable hunger for bulls*** and hate, so I can see why some wish to opt out rather than deal with Part 2, though it's never going to happen. And even if it did... as if governments ever do anything fast. It might take so long to become a reality that we'd be on to the next presidency anyhow. (Which will prob have inevitability swung back to blue in a 'yuge' way.)

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

The first four were already exhausting enough, at least for anyone who doesn't have a deeply irrational, insatiable hunger for bulls*** and hate, so I can see why some wish to opt out rather than deal with Part 2, though it's never going to happen. And even if it did... as if governments ever do anything fast. It might take so long to become a reality that we'd be on to the next presidency anyhow. (Which will prob have inevitability swung back to blue in a 'yuge' way.)

But when all is said and done, nothing really happened in the first time. At last nothing that affected us in a major way. This time around things are a lot more serious with the tariffs, Project 2025 and now Mexico and Canada pulling back from wanting to work with us. In the grand scheme of things, the things we might face the next four years make the first time around just amount to 'mean tweets' in comparison.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Well the funny part is, for NY that’s not even true lol. Obviously you got NYC, but other than Albany, Ithaca, Syracuse and a couple other places, the whole state loves Trump.

Same as my state, WA (which I'm surprised isn't on that list of whiny bitch states). Seattle and Olympia are one thing, but over half of the state toward the east is all red.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

But when all is said and done, nothing really happened in the first time.

I mean, we still exist as a nation, if that's good enough. I grew sick of all the nasty rhetoric, hate, bad handling of a pandemic, attack on the Capitol, etc... all the stuff that's all just a bad ball of garbage collectively in the end. At least you feel concerned about some of it this time, I guess.

I do agree it could be worse. I'm most concerned that since Trump doesn't have to worry about being reelectable, the already barely existent guardrails are off. Esp considering the kind of people he seems to be wanting to pick who probably won't care in the least.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I mean, we still exist as a nation, if that's good enough. I grew sick of all the nasty rhetoric, hate, bad handling of a pandemic, attack on the Capitol, etc... all the stuff that's all just a bad ball of garbage collectively in the end.

And yet... we're all still here. I mean, even J6 ended up being nothing. I legit thought were were gonna go to war. I kept watching the TV, worried about what was about to happen to the country.. waiting.... and waiting... and waiting... and then... it just ended and nothing of consequence actually happened. I legit thought we were gonna hear some of them make some demands or threats or something. Stuff like 'either you recount/install Trump as president or we'll kill everyone here/blow up the building', something actually scary like that. Instead we got.... guy walking around with antlers?

No matter what you say about the 2016 term, we're all still here. This time though, we might not be so lucky.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

And yet... we're all still here. I mean, even J6 ended up being nothing. I legit thought were were gonna go to war. I kept watching the TV, worried about what was about to happen to the country.. waiting.... and waiting... and waiting... and then... it just ended and nothing of consequence actually happened. I legit thought we were gonna hear some of them make some demands or threats or something. Stuff like 'either you recount/install Trump as president or we'll kill everyone here/blow up the building', something actually scary like that.

Jesus, man. Now I'm understanding you a little better. But f***. Why? How? Based on what?

[oldmanwinters]

I'm surprised more states haven't followed Nebraska/Maine and moved to a split of some electoral votes based on particular districts, regardless of political leanings. I didn't know Nebraska had that in place since 1972 and Maine since 1992 but there hadn't been any split electoral votes in presidential elections until 2008 (Nebraska) and 2016 (Maine).

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

And yet... we're all still here. I mean, even J6 ended up being nothing. I legit thought were were gonna go to war. I kept watching the TV, worried about what was about to happen to the country.. waiting.... and waiting... and waiting... and then... it just ended and nothing of consequence actually happened. I legit thought we were gonna hear some of them make some demands or threats or something. Stuff like 'either you recount/install Trump as president or we'll kill everyone here/blow up the building', something actually scary like that. Instead we got.... guy walking around with antlers?

No matter what you say about the 2016 term, we're all still here. This time though, we might not be so lucky.

With what weapons would they have killed anyone with?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

With what weapons would they have killed anyone with?

I didn't know that then. Watching the news live as it was happening, I was assuming they were heavily armed.

I mean you remember how it felt watching it live, don't you?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Jesus, man. Now I'm understanding you a little better. But f***. Why? How? Based on what?

Dude it's easily to look back and comment now. But back then as it was happening live, we had no way of predicting what was gonna happen.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I didn't know that then. Watching the news live as it was happening, I was assuming they were heavily armed.

I remember you remember how it felt watching it live, don't you?

I remember vividly. The best the mainstream media could come up with was finding a couple of pictures of some young guy carrying…. *gulp*…. Zip ties!

Other than him it was a bunch of boomers in Trump merch walking around after literally being let in by the capitol police.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I remember vividly. The best the mainstream media could come up with was finding a couple of pictures of some young guy carrying…. *gulp*…. Zip ties!

Other than him it was a bunch of boomers in Trump merch walking around after literally being let in by the capitol police.

Yeah but didn't all that come out.... afterwards?

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

And yet... we're all still here. I mean, even J6 ended up being nothing. I legit thought were were gonna go to war. I kept watching the TV, worried about what was about to happen to the country.. waiting.... and waiting... and waiting... and then... it just ended and nothing of consequence actually happened. I legit thought we were gonna hear some of them make some demands or threats or something. Stuff like 'either you recount/install Trump as president or we'll kill everyone here/blow up the building', something actually scary like that. Instead we got.... guy walking around with antlers?

The whole point of J6 was to invade the building and prevent Biden’s confirmation as president.