Overrated movies & TV shows?

[ToTheNines]

What ever happened to Jarrah White?

[Antoniocafe]

I'm gonna say the movie Top Gun. It had a really good soundtrack. But whenever I watch the movie, I don't see what people love so much about it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

What ever happened to Jarrah White?

I still follow him around on Youtube, he posts a lot of Moon Landing hoax videos and wrote a novel about a fictional spy involved in January 6th

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Antoniocafe

I'm gonna say the movie Top Gun. It had a really good soundtrack. But whenever I watch the movie, I don't see what people love so much about it.

I'm kind of with you on that. Though the sequel retroactively -- somehow -- makes me like it a lot more.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Like over half the James Bond movies honestly aren't very good.

I wouldn't say that. I can probably count on 1 hand the number of actual stinkers in the whole franchise. Now, there's ones that don't quite hit that PEAK James Bond™ level, but are still overall pretty OK (kind of like both Dalton movies).

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

and wrote a novel about a fictional spy involved in January 6th

that ****ing rules! Glad to know he’s still out there.

[TheUltimateBum]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Like over half the James Bond movies honestly aren't very good.

Honestly, it really depends on the fan. You ask a Bond fan which movie is his or her favorite and you get a large amount of answers.

The problem I have with some of the Bond movies that I disliked is that they just dragged a lot (I found Thunderball to be extremely boring with the only scene that really excited me being the final fight, whereas the unofficial movie Never Say Never Again was pretty much the opposite in that the movie did entertain me, but the finale was weak), felt like clumsy attempts to modernize (Quantum of Solace with its weird editing) or were just dated on arrival (Man With the Golden Gun and Die Another Day just felt that way to me).

I have seen all the Bond movies, and even the ones I like the most I admit aren't perfect.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by Antoniocafe

I'm gonna say the movie Top Gun. It had a really good soundtrack. But whenever I watch the movie, I don't see what people love so much about it.

Yep, it's bunch of grey planes fighting grey planes. With a bit homoerotic volleyball thrown in for good measure.

Never found Jaws all that exciting, I can appreciate its place in history as the beginning of the summer blockbuster era. Never found it very good (Most of Spielberg, TBH).

[Snowglare]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've got some:

* Smallville.

* All those NCIS/Law & Order Shows. All of them.

* 4Kids TMNT cartoon.

Agreed on these. Never saw the others. It's crazy to me that Smallville went 10 seasons and still has a massive fanbase. Michael Rosenbaum's cool and all, but it was just your typical CW-type show (before CW was a thing), in an era where Hollywood was deathly afraid of putting anyone in a costume or doing anything too comicbooky. We got shows like that and Heroes that were, at their best, dumb fun with little to set them apart from other action drama fare.

Along the same lines, Stargate SG-1 went way too long. Dreadful dull show. Solid cast, but the writing was so bland. Sliders did it far better, at least before it went off the rails and started kicking all the best characters out.

Thanks to co-workers in the break room, I saw way more of... I think it was one of the CSI's? Way more of that than I ever cared to. Disgusting show. Every other episode would just be the most shocking crime they could think of, and they'd explain it in gory detail. I used to like Law & Order, the first one, but SVU has a similar problem and one of TV's all-time biggest assholes in Elliot Stabler. He's the ultimate answer to Copaganda. You are, I assume, expected to side with him, but all he ever does is browbeat suspects based on zero evidence. It's OK, though, they all magically turn out to be guilty! I would always root for them; guilty or not, they don't deserve that.

2003 TMNT was, again, boring. Being relatively faithful to the original source is not that big a selling point. Like ToTheNines said, they pulled plenty of punches. It was about what you'd expect from a 4Kids show. Better than some of their anime dubs, to be sure, but nothing special.

Originally Posted by TheUltimateBum

Stuff like Superman: The Animated Series and Spectacular Spider-Man get so much praise and yet, they just annoyed me. There are better shows with these characters, and yet they don't get enough attention.

Have to disagree. STAS compares poorly to BTAS and worse to JLU, but it was fine. I don't know of any better Superman series. And Spectacular is my favorite animated take on Spidey. There could easily be better versions, but I stopped paying attention after that. Even if it's not the best, it's very good.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Forrest Gump. Laughably bad.

I've heard a ton of criticism for this. Somehow, it's one of the most beloved movies of all time and one of the most scorned by critics. Bit of an over/underrated thing going on. It's on my list to rewatch sometime, and I expect I'll still enjoy it.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

This is my big one: Scarface. Such a boring, corny, dogshit movie. People think it’s badass though. I don’t get it.

Totally agree on this. By the time it got to the big shootout at the end, I was pretty well checked out.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Snowglare

I've heard a ton of criticism for this. Somehow, it's one of the most beloved movies of all time and one of the most scorned by critics. Bit of an over/underrated thing going on. It's on my list to rewatch sometime, and I expect I'll still enjoy it.

Hanks is lovable in the role, but the direction/editing just feels kind of amateurish.

Totally agree on this. By the time it got to the big shootout at the end, I was pretty well checked out.

Tony's just not an interesting character at all. Outside of *checks notes* wanting to f**k his sister... hmm.

The people that love it are the same people that hate any episode of The Sopranos where "nobody got whacked!"

[TheUltimateBum]

Originally Posted by Snowglare

Have to disagree. STAS compares poorly to BTAS and worse to JLU, but it was fine. I don't know of any better Superman series. And Spectacular is my favorite animated take on Spidey. There could easily be better versions, but I stopped paying attention after that. Even if it's not the best, it's very good.

My measuring stick for Superman shows has always been the 1952 TV show. There are no comic book villains there, but you have an extremely likeable principal cast that carry the stories. And even the 1988 Ruby-Spears series, despite not being perfect, I found much better than STAS. And in the case of Spectacular, I guess it's acquired taste, but I just never liked the artstyle, some ideas didn't work at all for me, the voice acting didn't wow me (feeling a bit like predictable casting choices) and it just felt too "teen" for me (which is the same problem I had with the Ultimate run).

[Andrew NDB]

Another one -- Men in Black. And by that I mean ALL of those movies, they all suck. But that last European one or whatever was particularly awful.

* They desperately try to be funny but they're not.

* These are the height and limits of exhaustion of "Will Smith just playing himself again."

* We aren't made to care about any of the supporting cast.

[sdp]

I have to agree with Andrew here. I also recently watched all the movies (I had only seen the first two as a kid) and came to the conclusion all the Men In Black movies suck.

I can give props to the original that as a kid in the 90s, it was a cool movie to watch that summer, but it's very much a product of its time. I mean Will Smith and Alien conspiracies were just cool in the 90s. The ending was the first time I ever saw in my life a Twilight Zone twist ending so that gave it bonus points. But yeah, even as a kid I wasn't crazy for the cartoon either. It had its time and that's it. Rewatching it is kind of like "I can understand why I liked it when I saw it as a kid, but it's not good".

Second one is worse, even as an older kid but still a kid I felt it was not good. The third and fourth have some interesting ideas but are still worse than the one that came before, so by the time we get to the fourth one its just god awful. But I know for sure one day in the next few years TigerClaw is going to post a thread "Sony working on MIB 5, Will Smith returning!"

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by sdp

I have to agree with Andrew here. I also recently watched all the movies (I had only seen the first two as a kid) and came to the conclusion all the Men In Black movies suck.

I can give props to the original that as a kid in the 90s, it was a cool movie to watch that summer, but it's very much a product of its time. I mean Will Smith and Alien conspiracies were just cool in the 90s. The ending was the first time I ever saw in my life a Twilight Zone twist ending so that gave it bonus points. But yeah, even as a kid I wasn't crazy for the cartoon either. It had its time and that's it. Rewatching it is kind of like "I can understand why I liked it when I saw it as a kid, but it's not good".

Second one is worse, even as an older kid but still a kid I felt it was not good. The third and fourth have some interesting ideas but are still worse than the one that came before, so by the time we get to the fourth one its just god awful. But I know for sure one day in the next few years TigerClaw is going to post a thread "Sony working on MIB 5, Will Smith returning!"

What if they kept to the comic book premise of there being more things than aliens they were covering up?

[ResidentEvil7]

I never cared much for the following movies, but other people do:

Super Mario Bros (1993 version)
Lord Of The Rings trilogy
The Hobbit trilogy
Star Wars Episodes VII-IX
Superman
Batman
Captain America
Spiderman
Top Gun
James Bond movies
Most Die Hard movies (The only one I liked was Live Free...)
Tomb Raider - The 2018 reboot
Indiana Jones And the Dial Of Destiny
All the Toy Story movies
Finding Nemo
Conan The Barbarian (2011)
All the Saw movies - Too intense violence

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

Super Mario Bros (1993 version)

You do realise they "like it" as a joke, right? Hardly anyone actually calls that movie good and those who find some appreciation for it don't exactly do so for anything that would normally be compelling.

[ranger_scout]

The Big Bang Theory, the character of Sheldon Cooper, and Jim Parsons’ performance have always been overrated in my opinion.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

I never cared much for the following movies, but other people do:

Super Mario Bros (1993 version)
Lord Of The Rings trilogy
The Hobbit trilogy
Star Wars Episodes VII-IX
Superman
Batman
Captain America
Spiderman
Top Gun
James Bond movies
Most Die Hard movies (The only one I liked was Live Free...)
Tomb Raider - The 2018 reboot
Indiana Jones And the Dial Of Destiny
All the Toy Story movies
Finding Nemo
Conan The Barbarian (2011)
All the Saw movies - Too intense violence

You don’t like Top Gun? I’m starting to question if you’re really a gay guy

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by neatoman

You do realise they "like it" as a joke, right? Hardly anyone actually calls that movie good and those who find some appreciation for it don't exactly do so for anything that would normally be compelling.

It's like the people who pay to see "The Room" and cheer when it's on. Some people just don't get it, dude.

[CyberCubed]

The first Men in Black is a fun movie. Admittedly it's carried by the chemistry between Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, but that's fine. It's just a fun action/sci-fi movie with likeable leads.

[Coola Yagami]

MIB should have been a one and done, and keep the cartoon. The movie was fun because of the chemistry between Smith and Jones but it ended with Jones' character retiring. They painted themselves into a corner and had no choice but to backtrack for sequels. Despite the first movie ending with Agent J and L working together, no one was going to want a sequel without Tommy Lee Jones.