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Old 07-22-2025, 05:25 PM   #321
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If then "Lanterns" turns out to be pretty good, I'll have a fairly decent level of trust in Gunn. Man, Supergirl does make me worry, though. If it is literally (Edgy) Girlboss: The Movie... we see this kind of movie time and time again fail in recent years. Nobody shows up, ever, even if it's a decent movie.
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Old 07-23-2025, 12:58 PM   #322
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I don't think Man of Steel did that. Beyond that moment when Cavil looks up and is about to smash the gravity engine's core and he kind of transforms into Christopher Reeve... which they said later on was not intentional at all.
Well, there is also the fact that the plot of Man of Steel was about Superman a black clad Zod gang, who's leader was seen screaming at Jor-El at the beginning of the movie before being banished to the Phantom Zone.
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Old 07-23-2025, 02:00 PM   #323
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Well, there is also the fact that the plot of Man of Steel was about Superman a black clad Zod gang, who's leader was seen screaming at Jor-El at the beginning of the movie before being banished to the Phantom Zone.
But that's not really honoring Reeve, that's just doing a setup from one of his movies. And Superman fighting Zod's gang and Phantom Zone stuff has been in the comics forever.
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Old 07-23-2025, 06:51 PM   #324
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Just got back from seeing it. It was alright. I was expecting more of a All-Star Superman story and that wasn't it. I think it's an odd "first movie of the DCU", I mean I'm a nerd so I don't mind being in the middle of the action in an already established universe full of heroes, hell I am happy this was the case.. but wouldn't that be too much for casual fans? Especially since these are the fans that complained "the DCEU rushed things by not giving an origin movie to Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and The Flash first. And here we have a bunch of lesser known heroes.

The movie also reminded me of the Snyderverse in general, you had a plot of getting people to turn on Superman or whatever. Hell I think this movie could've worked in the DCEU continuity if they really wanted to. I have complains on this new universe but it's stuff I can live with. I also had plenty of problems with the DCEU and I was able to overlook those so whatever, neither has been perfect. I didn't like Luthor here or for example Jimmy Olsen here but at least he wasn't killed before he even appeared Which brings me to the biggest plot hole in the entire film..

Why is Luthor's girlfriend obsessed with Jimmy Olsen?

Krypto stole the show and I liked Supergirl, can't wait to watch her movie, hope Krypto is in it.

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Old 07-24-2025, 12:23 PM   #325
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Superman is looking to end its box office run around 265 domestic and 440 worldwide. Which is about 30 million less domestic and almost 230 less worldwide than Man of Steel made 12 years ago.

Yeah... that's not good.
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Old 07-24-2025, 12:50 PM   #326
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Superman, Jurassic World & Fantastic Four all hurt their box office releasing after each other. All 3 are tired franchises most people don't want to watch. Superman was a good movie but people have moved on from capes.
Counting we have less of a connected universe this time around it doesn't really matter, the movies in production are for the most part stand alone and they aren't building up to a universe, they just happen to be characters that share a universe. So any change in plans won't affect a "vision" like it did with the DCEU and could be for the best. As longa s the movies are good it'lll be fine. Though less money will be given to them and less projects will be greenlit.
Fantastic Four will likely do better, but will still be seen as underperforming. Jurassic World will likely be the movie that did the best, since in a way its the least played out, not as many dinosaur movies out there but Universal will also see the downward trend of each JW movie.
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Old 07-26-2025, 03:06 PM   #327
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Admittedly when it was revealed Superman was fighting his evil clone, it kind of made the last act fall flat for me. I feel like I've seen this somewhere before, I know the last Wolverine movie did this where Logan fought his evil clone in the last act of the movie, but I'm pretty sure some other superhero movies did this too.

Also yeah, Hawkgirl flat out murdering the dictator guy feels a bit at odds with the message Superman was saying throughout the movie, doesn't it? I know she says she's not Superman, but kind of a weird way to end that?

Also are we really led to believe every single person in Metropolis evacuated the city at the end? There's no way a bunch of people weren't killed when all the buildings were falling on each other like dominos. There was as much destruction here as in Man of Steel.
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Old 07-26-2025, 05:49 PM   #328
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Superman was a good and fun movie, but there was nothing particularly over-the-top about it that really commanded a record-breaking theatrical run.
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Old 07-27-2025, 12:16 AM   #329
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Superman was a good and fun movie, but there was nothing particularly over-the-top about it that really commanded a record-breaking theatrical run.
But I'm sure the expectation was always going to be, "As long as it does as good or a liiiiitttle better than Man of Steel, then we'll take the win." It didn't. And I agree on what you said... it deserves to start a franchise. They just reaaaally need to get those budgets under control. There's no way Supergirl does Superman numbers, and nothing else on "The Slate™" with the possible exception of Brave and the Bold is going to do any better than that.

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Admittedly when it was revealed Superman was fighting his evil clone, it kind of made the last act fall flat for me. I feel like I've seen this somewhere before, I know the last Wolverine movie did this where Logan fought his evil clone in the last act of the movie
And the clone was mute in that movie, too.
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Old 07-27-2025, 06:13 AM   #330
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But I'm sure the expectation was always going to be, "As long as it does as good or a liiiiitttle better than Man of Steel, then we'll take the win." It didn't.
It's out performing Man of Steel by 40 million.
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Old 07-27-2025, 11:10 AM   #331
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It's current total is 406.8 million. Budget is reported as 225 million. Although as usual they don't throw the millions spent in marketing in there.

Honestly though, between it's current total, the merchandising, future streaming and disc sales - it's going to be way fine. It has a following - it's not maligned like "The Marvels" was where every aspect of it faced total rejection.
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Old 07-27-2025, 11:55 AM   #332
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It's out performing Man of Steel by 40 million.
That’s wonderful
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Old 07-27-2025, 12:40 PM   #333
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One thing I will say I like about this movie thanks to a post on Facebook is the SPECIAL THANKS at the end of credits(I suppose?); where a multitude of comic creators all get credited for a certain portion Gunn translated into the film.

I'm glad to see DC's FINALLY crediting their work-for-hire people that help build this stuff their translating.

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Old 07-27-2025, 01:59 PM   #334
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I just realized this is the second Superman movie universe in a row after Man of Steel that made Perry White, Clark Kent's boss, into Perry Black. In Man of Steel they had Laurence Fishborne play Perry White, and now the guy from The Wire played Perry White in this movie. They might as well rename the character Perry Black at this point.
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It's out performing Man of Steel by 40 million.
Where on earth are you getting that? Superman is at 289 million domestic and 503 million worldwide. Man of Steel closed at 291 domestic and 667 million worldwide.
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Where on earth are you getting that? Superman is at 289 million domestic and 503 million worldwide. Man of Steel closed at 291 domestic and 667 million worldwide.
Superman is still theaters, at this point domestically at least it's ahead of where Man of Steel was at the same point in time.
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Film will be out digitally on the 15th

https://twistedvoxel.com/superman-di...ic-box-office/
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Film will be out digitally on the 15th

https://twistedvoxel.com/superman-di...ic-box-office/
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https://twistedvoxel.com/superman-di...ic-box-office/
That’s way too soon. That also means Blu ray release will probably be in September
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It's a desperation move for sure. They can rent it to you early for like $20 vs. less later on.
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