James Gunn DC Slate

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't know why Gunn thought people needed to watch a Jimmy Olsen TV spinoff to begin with.

I can kiiind of guess where his head was at there. Darkseid first appeared in Jimmy Olsen's book, after all. I just wouldn't have any faith he'd do anything compelling there without adding in the "Gunn flavor." Probably with drugs and orgies again if left to his own devices.

[Powder]

I haven't liked anything Gunn did outside of the first GOTG, personally, so I'm not broken up about it.

[ZariusTwo]

They're now saying Gunn was working on a third Superman script but was told to make it a Justice League movie instead with that being what introduces Batman.

DC Comics itself seems to have been protected from Skydance's current slew of lay offs because of the success of the comics and the Absolute line. Jim Lee is said to be relieved and happy that someone has replaced Gunn as he felt he was being frozen out of publicity for the comics side.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They're now saying Gunn was working on a third Superman script

But as he kept reminding us, Man of Tomorrow isn't even a 2nd Superman script. It's just a mini version of Justice League already, or like Avengers Age of Ultron level. Not 1 protagonist but many, a shifting focus all over the place. Which doesn't sound too dissimilar from what WB forced Snyder to do with BvS instead of letting him do his planned Man of Steel 2 movie.

It's also sounding like Skydance wanted this done by 12/1 so they can lock Gunn out of the editing room on the final cut of Man of Tomorrow. Possibly chopping out all his little cameos and such. So we may end up with a Whedon cut situation, sans a Whedon present.

[ZariusTwo]

Reportedly aside from three projects in the pipeline (Man of Tomorrow, The Batman II, and an unknown HBO series) all the other Gunn projects that were speculated on or had verbal confirmation are being dropped.

Gunn is locked out of the final say of the Man of Tomorrow edit, which the studio isn't happy with.

I think they ought to edit to remove any and all post or mid-credit sequel hooks, and to treat the film like a concluding half of a dulology.

And going forward, cost efficient movies that are more standalone from the off, no attempt at connective tissue. DC need to set itself apart from Marvel and focus on the Elseworld mantra. DC being anthology might be much more easily consumable than Marvel and serialization.

[Autbot_Benz]

At least we got some former MCU Christian dude running things who wants to make movies his grandma would wanna see

[Barkworm]

I wish we could go back to the days where not everything was a planned "trilogy" (where the only thing that's "planned" is that there will be three parts that have to make big money, not anything writing-related) or has to be part of a "universe" that no one cares about. How many of these movie franchises were huge hits apart from the first Marvel movie phases?

[sdp]

Doing individual films not as connected has basically been the strategy that DC has tried to do since Justice League failed, the rest of the DCEU was mostly disconnected. The DCU started with "we won't be as connected". Whatever DC tries it's going to fail, they literally haven't learned any lessons from the DCEU, they're doing the exact same thing, change the plan once something doesn't go as expected instead of sticking with one thing.

Originally Posted by Barkworm

How many of these movie franchises were huge hits apart from the first Marvel movie phases?

I think the Monsterverse has been the only successful example besides Marvel.
DCEU failed despite having like 20 movies in its continuity lmao

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

DCEU failed despite having like 20 movies in its continuity lmao

But the DCEU did have some HUGE hits, when it had hits. In fact, I believe only two or three lost any money (Birds of Prey, Shazam 2 and maybe Black Adam, right?), and then things like WW84 which came out in COVID.