US American politics

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Ugh, can I just delete this full page and a bit before that? Or does anyone feel super confident about their posts and wants to keep them?

I’m just being an idiot, so I don’t care lol

[Mayhem]

One thing I wish the cycle of kids learning from their parents could be broken. Kids don't care what colour their friends are at school.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

One thing I wish the cycle of kids learning from their parents could be broken. Kids don't care what colour their friends are at school.

Yeah, that's what it was like when I was a kid growing up in the 90s. Nobody cared what color their friends are and we were actively taught NOT to see color.

This was all reversed during right around Obama's 2nd term. Now color is the most important thing (unless white) and victimhood is currency.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, that's what it was like when I was a kid growing up in the 90s. Nobody cared what color their friends are and we were actively taught NOT to see color.

This was all reversed during right around Obama's 2nd term. Now color is the most important thing (unless white) and victimhood is currency.

Your experience as a kid doesn't negate that the system is broken and results in worse outcomes for certain demographics.

All the history of racial discrimination in the U.S. has resulted in certain groups falling behind consistently, that is a fact.

What was done wrong by societal institutions, also needs to be fixed by societal institutions. Things don't turn out fine in a world of pre-existing power structures when everyone "lets bygones be bygones".

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

All the history of racial discrimination in the U.S. has resulted in certain groups falling behind consistently, that is a fact.

Not remotely. Mostly that's evidenced by a lack of dads being around and societal issues in the home, 0 to do with imaginary racism. How else do you explain Asian excelling more than any other group in spite of all that "Stop Asian Hate"?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not remotely. Mostly that's evidenced by a lack of dads being around and societal issues in the home, 0 to do with imaginary racism. How else do you explain Asian excelling more than any other group in spite of all that "Stop Asian Hate"?

Those societal issues you speak of don't come out of nowhere. Marginalised groups like blacks tend to grow up in more broken homes, it's not a coincidence.

Asian Americans have their own set of unique circumstances, but they absolutely have not gone through what blacks have gone through, we all know that.

[ToTheNines]

No, Andrew has a point. Things weren’t perfect, but art and culture were in a much healthier place than recent history.

Nickelodeon had Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, All That, etc. All shows with diverse casts that everyone loved and wasn’t weird about it.

Cartoon Network had Power Puff Girls, Samurai Jack and Justice League (my Green Lantern is BLACK!). Same thing.

Family Matters, Fresh Prince and The Cosby Show were some of the biggest sitcoms.

I’m personally not throwing Obama’s name out there as a contributing factor to the nonsense, but yeah Andrew hit the nail on the head with round about 2012 being when Tumblr-brain started taking over the internet and the arts. SAD!

[IMJ]

"Racism" is a greater crutch for the weak than religion. Because "racism" as an excuse that supports both sides of weakness - the need to attack as well as the need to blame something other than "self".

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Asian Americans have their own set of unique circumstances, but they absolutely have not gone through what blacks have gone through, we all know that.

Aside from also getting thrown into internment camps during WW2... that still carried on in some form of discrimination 20-30 years or more.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

"Racism" is a greater crutch for the weak than religion. Because "racism" as an excuse that supports both sides of weakness - the need to attack as well as the need to blame something other than "self".

I used to think as a kid that society has grown out of racism and that we have evolved to not be prejduced after the racially motivated horrors of World War 2.

Growing up, I think I was extremely naive. Systemic racism is alive and well, it just dresses itself up as "Western civilisation" and "Judeo-Christian values."