How does TMNT survive? - Page 2

Valorxii · 01-21-2004, 10:51 PM

i thought before the first ep they never went above ground. so what dumpsters would they raid?

*Buslady* · 01-21-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Valorxii

i thought before the first ep they never went above ground. so what dumpsters would they raid?

ok scraps of whatever that fell into the sewers..maggots and all. maybe some fresh roadkill? BBQed squirrel?

**Jo Dawn** · 01-21-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

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Originally Posted by Valorxii

i thought before the first ep they never went above ground. so what dumpsters would they raid?

ok scraps of whatever that fell into the sewers..maggots and all. maybe some fresh roadkill? BBQed squirrel?

Eeewwww.

Wait... In Tales of Leo, in Splinter's story of Leo, wasn't there a part where they went looking for supplies? (I mean, aside from the whole 'afraid of heights' part. Weren't they looking for stuff at one point?) So... that means they had probably already been above ground, correct? That... or there was somewhere below ground where they found stuff. But I think they went above.

*Krutch* · 01-22-2004, 12:35 AM

lol this topic is funny

michiko · 01-22-2004, 07:27 AM

Mirage vol 1 #9 featured the turtles before they were teenagers, and they went above ground in that story.

*Coola Yagami* · 01-22-2004, 07:32 AM

well.. don't stories always retcon stuff like that? Like the first issue could say it's the first time they ever seen April, while flashbacks in future eps can reveal they saw her on the street before or somethin...

Raphaella · 01-22-2004, 08:32 AM

Wait, if they forage for food, are so poor they can only just manage to live... how'd Mikey get his DVD collection? The mysteries of TMNT...

Morp · 01-22-2004, 12:51 PM

Didn't one of them mention that Mikey was pretty good at making eggs in one of the eps, while they were still in April's apartment... I kinda doubt many eggs would roll their ways into the sewers.

And, I kinda got the feeling from the way they talked that they had been to the surface before, it just wasnt an everyday occurence

Raphaella · 01-22-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Morp

And, I kinda got the feeling from the way they talked that they had been to the surface before, it just wasnt an everyday occurence

True, in 15 years cud any of you resist the confined spaces of the sewers every single day? I guess Splinter cud have given them tours of the 'safe' places

Splinter: now my children, on your left you will see Central park -
kids: Ooooo
Splinter: That over there is what is known as mugging, where you beat someone up and take their money
Kids: Ooooo
Splinter: And this light, the light coming towards us means we're on a road - so quick get out the way! Scarper!

Lol, okay, funny mood today. But yeah, I'm betting they wud have gone topside before.

**Machias Banshee** · 01-22-2004, 02:58 PM

Oh the fics I have read and written about this...

~in my opinions...~

Basically they scrounged. People are always dropping change, jewelry, this and that on the ground, down drains and so on. I work at a convenience store, and the 'out of date' stuff we have to throw out every week could certainly feed a family of four...

When/how did Splinter and the boys do it?

Splinter did it when the turtles were young, leaving whenever the boys were sleeping or such to find what he could. when the boys got older, they went along and helped out. This gave them their first taste of the surface world. The more they helped out, the more curious they got. It soon reached a point where the boys could go without Splinter worrying about their safety(even though he did and still does...

).

Gremlin · 01-22-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Morp

I kinda doubt many eggs would roll their ways into the sewers.

No need to, reptiles usually produce eggs themselves (now who might be the secret female turtle among them)

Usagi'sChick · 01-31-2004, 07:47 PM

well in the new episodes. Tales of a Leo, they have flashbacks of when they are all young...anyhoo Leo and Splinter were looking for other people's discared "junk" in the sewers. -Also in both the new toon (garbage man guy) and the old toon, the turtles have befriended the homeless. They've always been on the lookout for their nifty odds and ends.

Has for the food question: I think I remember specifically that in the old toon the turtles get money donated to them via Channel 6, for helping a citizen in need (the citizen wanted to make sure her heroes were paid), and April of course passes it on. It was at the end of the episode, since the turtles are psyched they can get PIZZA!

-Plus the turtles are resourceful, like in movie one, Mikey gets $3.00 off cause the pizza dude is late!

-Every little bit counts

01-31-2004, 07:53 PM

Geez. They are just cartoons. Who cares how they survive? As long as they do.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-31-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Well, in the old show the TMNT wore disguises, but the basic problem is still there. How do they get the money to pay the pizzeria?

I always had this idea in my head (from the old cartoon) that Splinter gave the Turtles an allowance, and that's how they were able to pay for all the pizza they ate.

But then I could never come up with an explanation for how Splinter got the money to pay the Turtles for their allowance.

"Boy, this waiter's outfit was a good idea. I might even pick up a few tips!" - Donatello, from "Donatello's Degree"

*J Legault* · 01-31-2004, 08:01 PM

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Geez. They are just cartoons. Who cares how they survive? As long as they do.

hello Jeremy I see you had the urge to join this board with out telling me.

*Bowser_Koopa* · 01-31-2004, 08:14 PM

he mentions you in the introduction topic

about the tmnt...

i think i recall leo and splinter looking for food and usefull stuff on the seweres on a flash back, so they are like hobos, they can eat anything

....but then again its 4 turtles and rat, turtles eat cocroaches (the turtles i had did).....and rats, well rats eat anything...i guess...

FALLEN ELDOR · 02-01-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Valorxii

i thought before the first ep they never went above ground. so what dumpsters would they raid?

I don't recall them ever saying they had never gone up before. I'm sure they just stuck to ally ways and the dumpsters covered by darkness. and if not, I'm sure lots of stuff gets washed out into strom drains.

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Originally Posted by Gremlin

Yeah but still. The net wasn't exactly around in -84 (not as we know it) and (correct me if I'm wrong) Isn't the new start of each series sort of the first real things they do on surface level? The first movie made that pretty clear and the two toons seems to follow the same example. Sure they could look through the garbage that people throw away but that doesn't seem like something they would do, despite the whole "living in a sewer" deal

They collect a lot of empty cans and recycle.

And like others have said they scavenge and foraged for what they can find. The dumpster at fast food and take out places being the best spot.

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Originally Posted by Raphaella

Wait, if they forage for food, are so poor they can only just manage to live... how'd Mikey get his DVD collection? The mysteries of TMNT...

They sells a lot of used, old and fixed up stuff they find on Ebay, same place Mikey got all his DVDs and comics

After all they are 15, ebay would have been around seance like they where what, 8 or 9? I'm sure Don had already found the old ITT Tech books by that age and become the computer whiz and build his own and leeched from neighboring connections...hey Michelangelo pirated a radio station in the next mutation, they aren't that law abiding

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Originally Posted by Usagi'sChick

-Plus the turtles are resourceful, like in movie one, Mikey gets $3.00 off cause the pizza dude is late!

-Every little bit counts

You know something, I bet its Michelangelo's over use the policy that made Domino's stop the '30 minutes or less' guarantee!

*Stone Ill* · 02-01-2004, 12:46 AM

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They don't eat much anyway, so I suppose what little money they have, they save; and what food they find they save. Maybe Don makes money from the 'Net, heh. And all the punks they beat up must have something in their wallets, I mean, you wudn't feel too guitly stealing from a crook, lol

The don't eat much??? Hell Mikey's got an endless gut! he's always eating...which is pretty accurate with turtles. turtles EAT LIKE PIGS!

Pigs don't eat very much. They're messy eaters, but they don't eat much.

Lisardo · 02-01-2004, 10:55 AM

Well there's another issue here, if they don't have money for food hardly, how does Don afford all these electronic devices? How does he afford internet service? How is there lighting, and I assume heating in their den? Cuz those are all things that are running down there. I know with Don he finds stuff and makes it work, and he invents stuff, but I don't think there is much electricity down there in the sewers (or was it a train station in the new cartoon, I forget). There might be some electrical plugs down there since some sewer men work down there, but still. If a significant amount was used for everyday living as the TMNT use it, then I'm sure someone would find out about it and the government or whoever would start charging them or find and arrest them. From the looks of it, they don't move lairs that much, they stay in one place so it's not like they'd outrun the gov't if that happened. Well they might leave, but they'd have the same problem anywhere they went and tried to use electricity.

Also this isn't even money-related, how would they even get internet service or TV service (whether it's cable or regular tv), or the radio when the signals are prolly dampened out from being below the surface? See that's all fake (well duh!) in the show, cuz in real life none of that stuff would work. They may be able to find money and Don could invent or work on stuff to get it to work and make it something useful, but Don would prolly still need electricity to get it work more than likely (for most his machines he'd prolly need elec.)

**Kali** · 02-01-2004, 01:27 PM

I assume that heat, electricity, internet, and cable is all stolen. They tap into the city's lines. Humans do it all the time. Though I'm surprised that the city hasn't sent anyone down to see where all that power is going.

01-22-2004, 08:32 AM	#27
Raphaella Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England, building my own sewer system Posts: 403	Wait, if they forage for food, are so poor they can only just manage to live... how'd Mikey get his DVD collection? The mysteries of TMNT... __________________ "We came, we saw, we kicked their ASS!" - Ghostbusters message to UK channels : You SUCK ~ Mutant lover

01-22-2004, 12:51 PM	#28
Morp Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between here and there Posts: 153	Didn't one of them mention that Mikey was pretty good at making eggs in one of the eps, while they were still in April's apartment... I kinda doubt many eggs would roll their ways into the sewers. And, I kinda got the feeling from the way they talked that they had been to the surface before, it just wasnt an everyday occurence __________________ Hahaha, I made a funny!

01-31-2004, 07:47 PM	#32
Usagi'sChick Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ny Posts: 137	Money? well in the new episodes. Tales of a Leo, they have flashbacks of when they are all young...anyhoo Leo and Splinter were looking for other people's discared "junk" in the sewers. -Also in both the new toon (garbage man guy) and the old toon, the turtles have befriended the homeless. They've always been on the lookout for their nifty odds and ends. Has for the food question: I think I remember specifically that in the old toon the turtles get money donated to them via Channel 6, for helping a citizen in need (the citizen wanted to make sure her heroes were paid), and April of course passes it on. It was at the end of the episode, since the turtles are psyched they can get PIZZA! -Plus the turtles are resourceful, like in movie one, Mikey gets $3.00 off cause the pizza dude is late! -Every little bit counts __________________ "I bet he never has to look for a can opener!"

02-01-2004, 10:55 AM	#39
Lisardo Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 702	everyday living Well there's another issue here, if they don't have money for food hardly, how does Don afford all these electronic devices? How does he afford internet service? How is there lighting, and I assume heating in their den? Cuz those are all things that are running down there. I know with Don he finds stuff and makes it work, and he invents stuff, but I don't think there is much electricity down there in the sewers (or was it a train station in the new cartoon, I forget). There might be some electrical plugs down there since some sewer men work down there, but still. If a significant amount was used for everyday living as the TMNT use it, then I'm sure someone would find out about it and the government or whoever would start charging them or find and arrest them. From the looks of it, they don't move lairs that much, they stay in one place so it's not like they'd outrun the gov't if that happened. Well they might leave, but they'd have the same problem anywhere they went and tried to use electricity. Also this isn't even money-related, how would they even get internet service or TV service (whether it's cable or regular tv), or the radio when the signals are prolly dampened out from being below the surface? See that's all fake (well duh!) in the show, cuz in real life none of that stuff would work. They may be able to find money and Don could invent or work on stuff to get it to work and make it something useful, but Don would prolly still need electricity to get it work more than likely (for most his machines he'd prolly need elec.) __________________ "Look I'm not gonna stop doing what's right just because it's not appreciated." -Leo

02-01-2004, 01:27 PM	#40
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Re: everyday living I assume that heat, electricity, internet, and cable is all stolen. They tap into the city's lines. Humans do it all the time. Though I'm surprised that the city hasn't sent anyone down to see where all that power is going.

01-21-2004, 10:51 PM	#21
Valorxii Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	i thought before the first ep they never went above ground. so what dumpsters would they raid?

01-22-2004, 12:35 AM	#24
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	lol this topic is funny

01-22-2004, 07:27 AM	#25
michiko Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 35	Mirage vol 1 #9 featured the turtles before they were teenagers, and they went above ground in that story.

01-22-2004, 07:32 AM	#26
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	well.. don't stories always retcon stuff like that? Like the first issue could say it's the first time they ever seen April, while flashbacks in future eps can reveal they saw her on the street before or somethin...

01-22-2004, 02:58 PM	#30
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Oh the fics I have read and written about this... ~in my opinions...~ Basically they scrounged. People are always dropping change, jewelry, this and that on the ground, down drains and so on. I work at a convenience store, and the 'out of date' stuff we have to throw out every week could certainly feed a family of four... When/how did Splinter and the boys do it? Splinter did it when the turtles were young, leaving whenever the boys were sleeping or such to find what he could. when the boys got older, they went along and helped out. This gave them their first taste of the surface world. The more they helped out, the more curious they got. It soon reached a point where the boys could go without Splinter worrying about their safety(even though he did and still does... ).

01-31-2004, 07:53 PM	#33
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Geez. They are just cartoons. Who cares how they survive? As long as they do.

01-31-2004, 08:14 PM	#36
Bowser_Koopa Very yes Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Not so far, go back a little Posts: 1,849	he mentions you in the introduction topic about the tmnt... i think i recall leo and splinter looking for food and usefull stuff on the seweres on a flash back, so they are like hobos, they can eat anything ....but then again its 4 turtles and rat, turtles eat cocroaches (the turtles i had did).....and rats, well rats eat anything...i guess...