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**Jo Dawn** · 02-03-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

Holy ****. Finally someone else who has seen Disney's Legend of Sleepy Hollow. It has been my favourite piece of Disney animation ever since I was 4 years old.

I've seen that. Man, do I remember that! I always liked it, too.

.... Now I have the song from it in my head. And now I wanna see it again. Heh.

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 10:54 PM

If anime counts Princess Monoke is my favorite animated feature. I also like the Batman Beyond movie it was really neat, and Mask Of the Phantasm. I also like Spirited Away. Im sure there are more im just forgetting them

愛 · 02-03-2005, 11:00 PM

I've seen Spirited Away a few times now, and I still don't understand what it's about. I mean, I get the story, but....what I'm wondering is why did they make a movie like that? It has some pretty sweet art in it, though.

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 11:02 PM

I think it's like his art film. The story makes sense but Miya had alot of visual messages in it and it seemed like he really tried to show the art portion over the story and such. Everything is explained but it is hard to see what direction he was trying to go in when he wrote it
Sorry if that doesnt make sense. Its kinda hard to type something intelligent with Cradle Of Filth blareing in your ear haha

愛 · 02-03-2005, 11:04 PM

So I was on the right track. I should pop that in tomorrow and watch it again, because it was a really interesting movie. Like the Japanese Alice in Wonderland.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-03-2005, 11:13 PM

Japanese Alice in Wonderland? I want to see this...

*ZariusTwo* · 02-03-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

I've seen Spirited Away a few times now, and I still don't understand what it's about. I mean, I get the story, but....what I'm wondering is why did they make a movie like that? It has some pretty sweet art in it, though.

Spirited Away is an IMMENSLY overated movie...seriously, it does'nt hold a candle to Kiki's Delivery Service or Laputa.

I loved the animation though, it really caught the emotional parts of the film well when it counted.

Maybye if Nabeshin was in Spirited Away, I'd like it better...pulling guns out of your afro can't be really topped.

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Spirited Away is an IMMENSLY overated movie...seriously, it sickens me that it get the amount of praise it gets when it does'nt hold a candle to Kiki's Delivery Service or Laputa.

Its over-rated because a movie as good as it is doesnt come around to often. So when one does people praise it to the point where it is just ridcious. Its the same with video games. Im sure RE 4 will get praise until it's rammed into the ground. Like Halo did, I didnt think it was great but it got so much praise. Personally I prefere Monoke but Spirted Away is still a great film. Kiki's was cute but I dont think it can top the messages give in SA.
Than again is all boils down to opinion and what you like and dislike. We all think differently. If everyone liked everything then the world would be very boring

TMB Spirited Away could be considered a acid trip in a Japanese theme park. It is like Alice In Wonderland but it still cant top Cat Soup in the weird factor

*DrSpengler* · 02-03-2005, 11:18 PM

I think I liked Spirited Away a bit more than Kiki's Delivery Service. That one was just a little too..."girly" for my tastes. A good movie in it's own right, with the message about the damage self-doubt can do and what not. But still. Girly.

Laputa I'd rank about the same as Spirited Away, maybe a bit below. Alice in Wonderland is my favorite full-length Disney flick, so obviously there's going to be an attraction to Spirited Away with me. If compared to all other Miyazaki films, Laputa felt the most like a Disney flick to me. I dug all the Lupin references, and Mark Hamill was fantastic. But Spirited Away had that acid-trip quality Alice in Wonderland had, which really drew me to it.

But I wouldn't rank either of those movies as Miyazaki's or Ghibli's best. I think that goes to Castle of Cagliostro and Grave of the Fireflies. My opinion, of course.

愛 · 02-03-2005, 11:20 PM

I've never seen Kiki's Delivery Service, and I don't know why. What is it about?

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 11:21 PM

A Witch who delivers packages. Its kinda the same as Spirited Away with a girl working and all

*ZariusTwo* · 02-03-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Its over-rated because a movie as good as it is doesnt come around to often. So when one does people praise it to the point where it is just ridcious. Its the same with video games. Im sure RE 4 will get praise until it's rammed into the ground. Like Halo did, I didnt think it was great but it got so much praise. Personally I prefere Monoke but Spirted Away is still a great film. Kiki's was cute but I dont think it can top the messages give in SA.

The trouble is...those messages have been displayed in about a dosen anime movies people either ignore, or that people barly have heard about, Sprited Away just happened to come out at a time where anime has suddenly become so popular, that it's praised on that fact ALONE, when mainstream anime finally dies and we get rid of these f*cking dubs, then we'll see how well this film holds up when we start watching the classic animes we've shunned in favour of what's really just rehashing classic stories.

Spirited Away is a breathtaking film with a good deal of messages...but honestly, we've seen it all before years ago before anyone else did.

*DrSpengler* · 02-03-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

I've never seen Kiki's Delivery Service, and I don't know why. What is it about?

Well, if Spirited Away was the Japanese Alice in Wonderland, Kiki'd Delivery Service is the Japanese Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

Only indescribeably better.

It's about a teenage witch named Kiki and leaves home to make a life for herself in a city. She gets a job at a bakery (with her talking black cat, awesomely voiced by the late Phil Hartman), makes friends, has the life she's always wanted. Then her powers go away for no aparant reason and she spirals into depression. SHe has to discover what really makes her special without her powers before she can ever be happy again. Yeah, a sappy moral.

An excellent kid's film, like most of the Miyazaki/Ghibli stuff. I may have been a little harsh with the "girly" stuff, it's no Sailor Moon or anything. I mean, I own it, so...

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 11:26 PM

That's very true. I have seen some good anime that will probly never touch US soil or European soil. And I hope it doesnt. Sometimes though anime is really hard to understand because alot of it makes no sense so when the messages arent clear then people dont get them. SA made the messages very clear. And Like you said it's mainstream. Being in theaters and all....
But either way Im sure most of us can adgree that the Cowboy Bebop movie is a great film as well

愛 · 02-03-2005, 11:27 PM

Sappy morals are good. But then again, I like Sailor Moon.

Sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-03-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

But either way Im sure most of us can adgree that the Cowboy Bebop movie is a great film as well

Indeed, that, if not the entire series is one of the few animes that was dubbed and handled properly before the mainstream crap hit the shelves, think about it, Cowboy Bebop dubbed by 4Kids...BLECH

Ed would be voiced by Veronica Taylor, Spike would'nt die because some stupid female voice (probably Veronicas') would interupt the final scene saying "He came out of his coma the next day, we all love each other, la la lal la"

And Fay Valentine would be sucking quite a lot of "lollypops" even if there really cigeretts

*Spitfire* · 02-03-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Indeed, if not the entire series is one of the few animes that was dubbed and handled properly before the mainstream crap hit the shelves, think about it, Cowboy BVebop dubbed by 4Kids...BLECH

Ed would be voic by Veronica Taylor, Spike would'nt die because some stupid female voice (probably Veronicas') would interupt the final scene saying "He came out of his coma the next day, we all love each other, la la lal la"

Its so true! God I love that show though, the ending was so sad but it was fitting. And the movie was just mindblowing. Sunrise knows how to dub. I like Outlaw Star too but that's a different story

愛 · 02-03-2005, 11:32 PM

Okay, guys. That's enough off-topic craziness. Make a Miyazaki thread or something.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-03-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Its so true! God I love that show though, the ending was so sad but it was fitting. And the movie was just mindblowing. Sunrise knows how to dub. I like Outlaw Star too but that's a different story

Man, stop reminding me of how good the dubs used to be, Gundam Wing was KING back in 2000...

Again, Spirited Away, if it included Nabeshin would RULE

*DrSpengler* · 02-03-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

when mainstream anime finally dies and we get rid of these f*cking dubs,

I'm not so sure what you meant by "dubs", so this isn't a flame.

But personaly, I like dubs so long as the voices are good. Save for My Neighbor Totoro, all the dubs of the Miyazaki films have been perfect.

And to top that, many dubs outdo the source. The english dub of Cowboy Bebop was infinately superior, IMO. The actors really got into the roles, fit the characters perfectly, and gave them each their own nuances that made them so charming. One of my favorite moments was in the Teddy-Bomber episode with Jett at a masquerade party dressed as a hippy. The stoner voice he dead was perfect.

I also preferred the english cast for FLCL.

And yeah, there's bad dubs too. Typically anything we see on saturday mornings is fugly as all hell. But Saturday morning anime isn't very good, anyway (oh boy! Beyblades!).

But America isn't the only country capable of bad dubbing. Listen to some Japanese dubs of popular American cartoons some time. It can be downright offensive.

Take Beast Wars, for example. One of the BEST cartoons America/Canada has ever produced. The story-telling, the animation, and the voices all blended together seamlessly to create an epic. Then Japan goes and ruins it. They "dumbed it down" for kids. In America, David Kaye played Megatron to be a smooth, suave, brilliant overlord. In Japan he talked with a highpitch voice and, for comedic effect, screamed like a 10 year old girl whenever he got hit. Pathetic.

So in regards to dubs, so long as the voices are good I have no qualms with them. If the story is bad then that's the problem of the show itself, not the english voice cast.

Of course, this could possibly have nothing to do with what you meant, I just felt like voicing my opinion.

02-03-2005, 10:54 PM	#22
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	If anime counts Princess Monoke is my favorite animated feature. I also like the Batman Beyond movie it was really neat, and Mask Of the Phantasm. I also like Spirited Away. Im sure there are more im just forgetting them __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-03-2005, 11:02 PM	#24
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I think it's like his art film. The story makes sense but Miya had alot of visual messages in it and it seemed like he really tried to show the art portion over the story and such. Everything is explained but it is hard to see what direction he was trying to go in when he wrote it Sorry if that doesnt make sense. Its kinda hard to type something intelligent with Cradle Of Filth blareing in your ear haha __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-03-2005, 11:13 PM	#26
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Japanese Alice in Wonderland? I want to see this... __________________

02-03-2005, 11:21 PM	#31
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	A Witch who delivers packages. Its kinda the same as Spirited Away with a girl working and all __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-03-2005, 11:26 PM	#34
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	That's very true. I have seen some good anime that will probly never touch US soil or European soil. And I hope it doesnt. Sometimes though anime is really hard to understand because alot of it makes no sense so when the messages arent clear then people dont get them. SA made the messages very clear. And Like you said it's mainstream. Being in theaters and all.... But either way Im sure most of us can adgree that the Cowboy Bebop movie is a great film as well __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-03-2005, 11:00 PM	#23
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I've seen Spirited Away a few times now, and I still don't understand what it's about. I mean, I get the story, but....what I'm wondering is why did they make a movie like that? It has some pretty sweet art in it, though.

02-03-2005, 11:04 PM	#25
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	So I was on the right track. I should pop that in tomorrow and watch it again, because it was a really interesting movie. Like the Japanese Alice in Wonderland.

02-03-2005, 11:18 PM	#29
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I think I liked Spirited Away a bit more than Kiki's Delivery Service. That one was just a little too..."girly" for my tastes. A good movie in it's own right, with the message about the damage self-doubt can do and what not. But still. Girly. Laputa I'd rank about the same as Spirited Away, maybe a bit below. Alice in Wonderland is my favorite full-length Disney flick, so obviously there's going to be an attraction to Spirited Away with me. If compared to all other Miyazaki films, Laputa felt the most like a Disney flick to me. I dug all the Lupin references, and Mark Hamill was fantastic. But Spirited Away had that acid-trip quality Alice in Wonderland had, which really drew me to it. But I wouldn't rank either of those movies as Miyazaki's or Ghibli's best. I think that goes to Castle of Cagliostro and Grave of the Fireflies. My opinion, of course.

02-03-2005, 11:20 PM	#30
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I've never seen Kiki's Delivery Service, and I don't know why. What is it about?

02-03-2005, 11:27 PM	#35
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Sappy morals are good. But then again, I like Sailor Moon. Sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.

02-03-2005, 11:32 PM	#38
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Okay, guys. That's enough off-topic craziness. Make a Miyazaki thread or something.