Constantine

*Brodie* · 02-20-2005, 12:14 PM

I saw this last night, I was in a pissed off mood, and this made it better. Well, it made an attempt to make it better.

I think it was the state of mind I was in that made me a little slower to get where the film was going. But I dug it. It's, by far, one of my favorite comic book movies. But then again, I'm one of those cats who would sooner watch The Punisher than Spider-Man with that bitch Tobey McGuire.

Reeves is good in this, more so than he is in the Matrix and Point Break.

And the kid from Even Stevens, I figured it'd be a stupid idea to have him in the movie. But he was a good addition.

From now on I'm gonna watch The Matrix movies and pretend I'm watching a bad version of Constantine.

If you haven't seen it, make sure you stay after the credits, because Voltron and I both missed the 'real' ending.

愛 · 02-20-2005, 12:20 PM

Voltron and I saw this last night. I was impressed to a certain extent, but I thought there was a lack in amount of demons. Reeves acted quite well in this movie, better than I expected.

And I guess we did miss the real ending. Bastards. I have to start waiting for the credits to end from now on.

*cqb101* · 02-20-2005, 01:03 PM

I saw this friday night. I went in expecting a total ass of a movie and I came out pleasently surprised. It was probably Reeves' best performance, which isn't say much, but he didn't ruin the movie for me like I thought he would. I definately give this film a thumbs up.

**Barkworm** · 02-20-2005, 01:08 PM

I haven't read any of the comics but I heard the movie Constantine doesn't have a lot in common with the original one. What's with that?

*Brodie* · 02-20-2005, 01:17 PM

Well, the Spider-Man movie wasnt like the comics, in the sense that Peter Parker isnt a *** in the comics.

**Barkworm** · 02-20-2005, 01:20 PM

Hey, the original Lee/Ditko Spidey was.

*raphael_is_cool* · 02-20-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

Well, the Spider-Man movie wasnt like the comics, in the sense that Peter Parker isnt a *** in the comics.

Obviously never read the ultimate spiderman ones, hehe. And yes, I know the films don't follow that incarnation

But yeah Tobey Maguire is awful and I don't really like the first one. Too cheesy, predictable and not too interesting. I'd give the second a chance only because friends heap lots of praise on it...although none own it on dvd...

On topic. I know nothing of the Constantine comics but the film sounded interesting enough

*Voltron* · 02-20-2005, 01:44 PM

I liked it. Wasn't spectacular, but it was good. I liked how Constantine resolved everything at the end of the film. Verrry clever.

IceFlash78 · 02-20-2005, 07:08 PM

I saw Constantine on Friday night. I liked it! It had frightening moments and nice humor. The concept was extremely interesting, and I liked Keanu Reeves in this character. However, it was ALMOST too werid to be good, but after thinking about it, I have to say it was welldone. Definately going to buy the movie when it comes out on DVD.

I went to a site that discussed the movie, and it was littered with posts of comic fanboys who practially ripped the movie to shreds (mind you.. they hadn't EVEN seen the movie yet, only the preview), and their biggest complaints were:

1) Keanu Reeves IS NOT CONSTANTINE
2) Constantine is supposed to be this British guy who uses his wits to outsmart his enemies, not his guns, instead, we have this American guy (changed from British because apparently Keanu can't do a British accent) who uses weapons to fight his enemies...

They really pissed me off, they were so closedmined about the movie that they refused to give it a try, clamoring that the film RUINED Hellblazer and would go down as the worse comic book movie in history...

No offense you guys, but people who expect EVERY DETAIL to be captured perfectly on the screen annoy me (is thinking of a friend who hates the third harry potter movie for the same reason) Personally, I haven't read the comic book, but hearing from their complaints, I felt that Constantine CAPTURED the spirit and the mood of the comics, which is important, and who knows.. this movie might produce more readers of the comics.

And about Spiderman.. what exactly do you not like about it? I loved the two movies, and i like Tobey Maquire as spiderman.. he didn't come off as a "***" to me...

*Spitfire* · 02-20-2005, 08:00 PM

I just saw this movie today. It was nice to see another comic book movie that wasnt targeted at the MTV generation of teenagers who only like watching long drug out fight scenes with techno music blarreing in the backround. It seemed a little long but other then that it was actually really entertaining. I might buy it when it comes out. I never read Hell Blazer but I knew some of the characters. The influencer from Hell "I forgot his name" Was in Spawn for awhile and I think his character is the same one used in Dogma. I also liked the fallen angel, poor old Gab.
And The Worst Comic book movie ever is Lady Death

*Brodie* · 02-20-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IceFlash78

And about Spiderman.. what exactly do you not like about it? I loved the two movies, and i like Tobey Maquire as spiderman.. he didn't come off as a "***" to me...

Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

IceFlash78 · 02-20-2005, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

Ahh.... guess I really should start buying/reading those spiderman comics.... seems like I'm missing alot

Anyways.. back to topic.. Yeah.. I was extremely surprised at the length of Constantine.. everytime i thought "Oh.. so this is the end then?" the movie just went on and on! Not that it was a bad thing.. I was surprised in a good way.

EZweasel · 02-21-2005, 07:13 AM

it was a decent little movie..nothing great. I mean it doesn't realy compare to the beter super hero movies like Spiderman & hellboy.

Tony Danza · 02-21-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

You are 100% correct. I dont see how that could be argued against, but in his deffence I do belive he made a few more facial expressions in the 2nd movie compared to the origional.

Much like Jack Nicholson should have played as doctor octopus, right Voltron?

*Voltron* · 02-21-2005, 11:42 PM

NO! You still can't name one damn good reason for Nicholson to play Octopus! One day I'm just going to nail you with a golf cart.

But I agree, McGuire is a pretty lousy Spider-Man. I guess I can see him playing the role of Highschool Peter Parker, where he's an unimportant nobody, but I've always been more of a fan of the cocky, older Peter Parker who show's his ego through sarcasm and subtle insults. McGuire just doesn't have that oomph to do it, you know?

ZodiacAngel · 02-23-2005, 02:48 PM

I saw Constantine a few hours ago and I really liked it. The only problem I had with it was that the movie was a little drawn out in some places, but other than that it was fine.

*damnhooligan* · 02-23-2005, 05:02 PM

Just got back from the theater. The movie seemed potentially forgettable, but entertaining nevertheless. Unfortunately, the sound at the theater must have been wonky because I couldn't hear or comprehend most of the non-yelling dialogue. I filled the lulls with my own MST3K-esque dialogue, complete with Crow and Servo handpuppets. Good times!

*raphael_is_cool* · 02-23-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by damnhooligan

I filled the lulls with my own MST3K-esque dialogue, complete with Crow and Servo handpuppets. Good times!

And that makes a forgettable film? Wowsers

the Dark Knight · 02-25-2005, 11:10 PM

Yeah, Constantine was pretty forgettable. A few decent moments, but overall, nothing great. The humoruous moments either weren't funny, or they were barely funny. The scares were predictable. It was kinda hard to keep up with the rules of the film, considering they kept changeing every scene, and Keanu Reeves having to describe it to us in his raspy, whispering voice wasn't all that helpful. To me, Keanu Reeves was good in 3 movies: the Matrix, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, and Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.
However, I thaught the film did show signs of creativity, and when Constantine flipped off the Devil or whoever towards the end, that was actually funny.

And about Toby Maguire. I think he's a good actor. He's more of a subtle actor, letting his emotions show through his eyes, which to me, you can see more emotion through his eyes than any smile or frown could convey.

*Kid Icarus* · 02-25-2005, 11:29 PM

You can't see jack doggypoo on Tobeys face, peroid. The boy can't act. Not to mention they're trying to make Spider-man in to these epic grand storys... when they're not like that. X-Men? Sure. Superman? Go for it.

Aunt May was the only belivable character in either of the Spider-Man movies. It's amazing that she manages to squeeze emotion outta the flat writing.

02-20-2005, 12:14 PM	#1
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Constantine I saw this last night, I was in a pissed off mood, and this made it better. Well, it made an attempt to make it better. I think it was the state of mind I was in that made me a little slower to get where the film was going. But I dug it. It's, by far, one of my favorite comic book movies. But then again, I'm one of those cats who would sooner watch The Punisher than Spider-Man with that bitch Tobey McGuire. Reeves is good in this, more so than he is in the Matrix and Point Break. And the kid from Even Stevens, I figured it'd be a stupid idea to have him in the movie. But he was a good addition. From now on I'm gonna watch The Matrix movies and pretend I'm watching a bad version of Constantine. If you haven't seen it, make sure you stay after the credits, because Voltron and I both missed the 'real' ending. __________________ Stupendous Monster

02-20-2005, 01:03 PM	#3
cqb101 Cinephile Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 8,489	I saw this friday night. I went in expecting a total ass of a movie and I came out pleasently surprised. It was probably Reeves' best performance, which isn't say much, but he didn't ruin the movie for me like I thought he would. I definately give this film a thumbs up. __________________ Facebook

02-20-2005, 01:08 PM	#4
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	I haven't read any of the comics but I heard the movie Constantine doesn't have a lot in common with the original one. What's with that? __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-20-2005, 01:17 PM	#5
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Well, the Spider-Man movie wasnt like the comics, in the sense that Peter Parker isnt a *** in the comics. __________________ Stupendous Monster

02-20-2005, 01:20 PM	#6
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Hey, the original Lee/Ditko Spidey was. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-20-2005, 12:20 PM	#2
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Voltron and I saw this last night. I was impressed to a certain extent, but I thought there was a lack in amount of demons. Reeves acted quite well in this movie, better than I expected. And I guess we did miss the real ending. Bastards. I have to start waiting for the credits to end from now on.

02-20-2005, 01:44 PM	#8
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	I liked it. Wasn't spectacular, but it was good. I liked how Constantine resolved everything at the end of the film. Verrry clever. __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

02-20-2005, 07:08 PM	#9
IceFlash78 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	I saw Constantine on Friday night. I liked it! It had frightening moments and nice humor. The concept was extremely interesting, and I liked Keanu Reeves in this character. However, it was ALMOST too werid to be good, but after thinking about it, I have to say it was welldone. Definately going to buy the movie when it comes out on DVD. I went to a site that discussed the movie, and it was littered with posts of comic fanboys who practially ripped the movie to shreds (mind you.. they hadn't EVEN seen the movie yet, only the preview), and their biggest complaints were: 1) Keanu Reeves IS NOT CONSTANTINE 2) Constantine is supposed to be this British guy who uses his wits to outsmart his enemies, not his guns, instead, we have this American guy (changed from British because apparently Keanu can't do a British accent) who uses weapons to fight his enemies... They really pissed me off, they were so closedmined about the movie that they refused to give it a try, clamoring that the film RUINED Hellblazer and would go down as the worse comic book movie in history... No offense you guys, but people who expect EVERY DETAIL to be captured perfectly on the screen annoy me (is thinking of a friend who hates the third harry potter movie for the same reason) Personally, I haven't read the comic book, but hearing from their complaints, I felt that Constantine CAPTURED the spirit and the mood of the comics, which is important, and who knows.. this movie might produce more readers of the comics. And about Spiderman.. what exactly do you not like about it? I loved the two movies, and i like Tobey Maquire as spiderman.. he didn't come off as a "***" to me...

02-20-2005, 08:00 PM	#10
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I just saw this movie today. It was nice to see another comic book movie that wasnt targeted at the MTV generation of teenagers who only like watching long drug out fight scenes with techno music blarreing in the backround. It seemed a little long but other then that it was actually really entertaining. I might buy it when it comes out. I never read Hell Blazer but I knew some of the characters. The influencer from Hell "I forgot his name" Was in Spawn for awhile and I think his character is the same one used in Dogma. I also liked the fallen angel, poor old Gab. And The Worst Comic book movie ever is Lady Death __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-21-2005, 07:13 AM	#13
EZweasel Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 847	it was a decent little movie..nothing great. I mean it doesn't realy compare to the beter super hero movies like Spiderman & hellboy. __________________

02-21-2005, 11:42 PM	#15
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	NO! You still can't name one damn good reason for Nicholson to play Octopus! One day I'm just going to nail you with a golf cart. But I agree, McGuire is a pretty lousy Spider-Man. I guess I can see him playing the role of Highschool Peter Parker, where he's an unimportant nobody, but I've always been more of a fan of the cocky, older Peter Parker who show's his ego through sarcasm and subtle insults. McGuire just doesn't have that oomph to do it, you know? __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

02-23-2005, 02:48 PM	#16
ZodiacAngel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Sanctuary Posts: 104	I saw Constantine a few hours ago and I really liked it. The only problem I had with it was that the movie was a little drawn out in some places, but other than that it was fine. __________________ Piccolo: We can't give up just because things aren't the way we want them to be ~History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.~

02-23-2005, 05:02 PM	#17
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	Just got back from the theater. The movie seemed potentially forgettable, but entertaining nevertheless. Unfortunately, the sound at the theater must have been wonky because I couldn't hear or comprehend most of the non-yelling dialogue. I filled the lulls with my own MST3K-esque dialogue, complete with Crow and Servo handpuppets. Good times! __________________

02-25-2005, 11:10 PM	#19
the Dark Knight Thug Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the basement of the Alamo Posts: 74	Yeah, Constantine was pretty forgettable. A few decent moments, but overall, nothing great. The humoruous moments either weren't funny, or they were barely funny. The scares were predictable. It was kinda hard to keep up with the rules of the film, considering they kept changeing every scene, and Keanu Reeves having to describe it to us in his raspy, whispering voice wasn't all that helpful. To me, Keanu Reeves was good in 3 movies: the Matrix, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, and Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey. However, I thaught the film did show signs of creativity, and when Constantine flipped off the Devil or whoever towards the end, that was actually funny. And about Toby Maguire. I think he's a good actor. He's more of a subtle actor, letting his emotions show through his eyes, which to me, you can see more emotion through his eyes than any smile or frown could convey. __________________

02-25-2005, 11:29 PM	#20
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	You can't see jack doggypoo on Tobeys face, peroid. The boy can't act. Not to mention they're trying to make Spider-man in to these epic grand storys... when they're not like that. X-Men? Sure. Superman? Go for it. Aunt May was the only belivable character in either of the Spider-Man movies. It's amazing that she manages to squeeze emotion outta the flat writing.